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From: Thomas R. <tri...@tr...> - 2003-04-26 18:45:17
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What do you think of Kodo? I have been meaning to try it out as well, but so far I have not had time to play with it. Thomas > +1 for HSQL. I've been evaluating Kodo JDO at work, and their demo works > very well with HSQL. No need to set it up: it just works. Very important for > a demo. > > Rod > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Risberg" <tri...@tr...> > To: <spr...@li...> > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Demos > > > > Rod, > > > > Hypersonic is no longer in development - the source lives on though in > > the HSQL Database Engine (HSQLDB) Project. > > > > This is from their web site > > > > *---------------------------------------------------------------- > > What is HSQLDB? > > > > * It is an Open Source Java Database > > * It has standard SQL syntax and a JDBC interface > > * HSQLDB is FREE to use and re-distribute > > * It is compact > > * It is very fast > > * In-Memory, Standalone and Client/Server modes > > * It can be used also in Applets > > > > More Features: > > > > * Indexes can be built and are used automatically > > * Transactions are supported > > * Joins between tables are possible > > * Referential Integrity > > * Java Stored Procedures and Functions are supported > > * Database can create SQL scripts > > * Security mechanism using users, passwords, access rights > > * Can be compiled for Java 1.1 and Java 2 > > > > HSQLDB, based on HypersonicSQL, is a general purpose database. It is > > very small and easy to install and use. It can be used in applets, for > > testing, as a distributed application, and for production purposes. > > *---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > I have used it a little bit, and I think it has most of the features > > that we would require. I think JBoss is still including some older > > version of HSQLDB it in their install. > > > > The more I think about it, I think that this should be the default > > target db. Hopefully we can provide sample code for MySQL, Postgres and > > Oracle as well. > > > > Thomas > > > > > > > What about Hypersonic? It seems well suited for demos as it's > potentially > > > zero configuration. But I don't know its capabilities. > > Transactionality is a > > > must. > > > > > > Rod > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Isabelle Muszynski" <isa...@me...> > > > To: "Thomas Risberg" <tri...@tr...> > > > Cc: <spr...@li...> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 5:40 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Demos > > > > > > > > > > Hi Thomas, > > > > > > > > MySQL provides transactions, you just have to specify a table type > that > > > supports them (eg InnoDB). Oracle is much more powerful, I agree, but > > who'd > > > want to set up Oracle just to run a demo app? Plus it eats up a lot of > > > resources. > > > > > > > > Isabelle > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Thomas Risberg wrote: > > > > > I think Jean-Pierre raises some valid points here. > > > > > > > > > > It would be nice to have the sample apps from the book work with > > the 0.8 > > > > > release of the framework. This should be avaialble in addition to > the > > > > > new demo app that we are developing. > > > > > > > > > > It would also be nice to have a very simple "entry level" app and > > a more > > > > > advanced one. I think we should limit the first one to the > web-tier, > > > > > infrastructure and data access parts of the framework. This app > > should > > > > > be able to run on Tomcat and a lightweight database like HSQL or > maybe > > > > > MySQL. > > > > > > > > > > For the more advanced one we should include AOP, Transactions, EJB > and > > > > > maybe some more advanced JDBC stuff. Here we could use JBoss and > > a more > > > > > robust database with transaction support. > > > > > > > > > > Thomas Risberg > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Not writing a lot these times, I follow constantly the Spring > > list. In > > > > > > this discussion, I see clearly that we have two goals with the > > > > > > demo/tutorial. > > > > > > 1) For the beginners: telling about the main Spring approach > > > > > > 2) For advanced users: telling about advanced features that are > > making > > > > > > all the sense of the framework > > > > > > > > > > > > Both have to be founding a real aid. Isabelle is concentrated on > the > > > > > > first, but the seconds don't to be ignored. Perhaps we have to > > provide > > > > > > both separately: A very simple demo on Tomcat for the firsts and a > > > more > > > > > > advanced on Jboss for the others. So everybody could easily > > start with > > > > > > the framework and users interested by the more interesting > > topics will > > > > > > normally not be afraid by installing Jboss. > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't agree when you say Jboss is too complicated, but I > recognize > > > > > > that it's not the same level of difficulty as Tomcat. Nevertheless > > > Rod's > > > > > > book is very helping for starting with Jboss. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this topic, so long as no documentation is done, I have another > > > > > > question: having two applications working with the initial i21 > from > > > the > > > > > > book, is it too early to thinking on passing them on the Spring > > > > > > framework? What is the best way today to found what have > > changed? Have > > > > > > we only the sources and the list discussion, having to guess from > > > here? > > > > > > It's certainly clear in the mind of a few people deeply involved > in > > > the > > > > > > development, but personally, I'm a quite loosed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jean-Pierre PAWLAK > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > > > > De : spr...@li... > > > > > > [mailto:spr...@li...] De > la > > > > > > part de Isabelle Muszynski Envoyé : samedi 26 avril 2003 13:29 � > : > > > > > > spr...@li... > > > > > > Objet : [Springframework-developer] slogan > > > > > > > > > > > > How about this for a slogan : > > > > > > > > > > > > J2EE made easy > > > > > > > > > > > > Isabelle > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Isabelle Muszynski > > > > > > Software Engineer > > > > > > Zandweellaan 4 > > > > > > 2660 Antwerpen > > > > > > Belgium > > > > > > Tel. 32-(0)3-830 18 54 > > > > > > Mobile: 32-(0)485 49 50 89 > > > > > > Email: isa...@me... > > > > > > Website: www.meta-logix.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > > > > > Spr...@li... > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > > > > > Spr...@li... > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thomas Risberg > > > > > tri...@tr... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > > > > Spr...@li... > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Isabelle Muszynski > > > > Software Engineer > > > > Zandweellaan 4 > > > > 2660 Antwerpen > > > > Belgium > > > > Tel. 32-(0)3-830 18 54 > > > > Mobile: 32-(0)485 49 50 89 > > > > Email: isa...@me... > > > > Website: www.meta-logix.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > > > Spr...@li... > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > > Spr...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Thomas Risberg > > tri...@tr... > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > > Welcome to geek heaven. > > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > > _______________________________________________ > > Springframework-developer mailing list > > Spr...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/springframework-developer > > > > -- Thomas Risberg tri...@tr... |