RE: [Springframework-developer] Release?

[Tony F. <ton...@ya...>]

I agree.  I prefer a combined download for developers, including
sources, third party libs, and Spring binaries.  Include a readme file
though indicating version #'s for the third-party files.

I'm indifferent in regards to the examples.




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Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Release?

Quoting from a previous mail of mine, with slight modifications:

<quote>
Finally, in terms of distribution: Should there be a separate examples
download, or should they be included in the main download? Do we like to
separate binary and source distribution (analogous to Tomcat), or offer
a combined one (analogous to Log4J)? Do we include all the third-party
libraries or just give respective download URLs? Or do we include all
but specific larger ones that not everyone will need, like Velocity?

Personally, I tend to prefer a combined download for developers,
including sources, third party libs, and Spring binaries (usable
out-of-the-box for both application and framework development) -
provided that it is of reasonable size (currently just ~1500 KB, without
Velocity). Of course, it would make sense to offer a binary-only
download too, with just the libraries needed for application development
(i.e. no Clover, etc - currently ~650 KB, again without Velocity). So
even with generated JavaDocs, some additional docs, and an example app,
the combined download will probably not exceed 2 MB, and the binary
download will clock in around 1 MB.

The only drawback is that users have to copy some framework and third
party JARs to WEB-INF\lib if they want to run the example app, but this
should be easy to document. Of course, we could go the Struts/WebWork
way of providing preassembled WARs and EARs that duplicate all the
libraries - but look at their distribution file sizes, ~20 MB/~17 MB for
the zipped versions... I believe that Spring's distribution size should
express Spring's general slimness and clearness, thus I vote for a
"normalized" distribution.
</quote>

Juergen


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