Re: [Springframework-developer] Mail list moved? - forum to mailing list

[Alexandru P. <the...@gm...>]

Hi Colin!

Thanks for reiterating this story once again. I am not trying any
conspiracy theory, but I am just underlying that in more than 1.5years
(maybe 2) I haven't seen any change to this request. In terms of
loosing information, I guess a mailing list or NNTP is much better
than a forum (but once again maybe it's just me). There are so many
mailing lists backed by gmane f.e. and they haven't complained about
loosing info.
However, I have to agree that it is your decission, and I wouldn't try
to get into it.

cheers,
./alex
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.w( the_mindstorm )p.


On 1/14/06, Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...> wrote:
> On 1/11/2006 10:08 AM, Alexandru Popescu wrote:
> > #: Alin Simionoiu changed the world a bit at a time by saying on
> > 1/11/2006 4:43 PM :#
> >> Is the any way that the forum can be setup to send emails to this
> >> mailing list or maybe different ones based on forum category?.
> >>
> >> I personally prefer mailing lists, is much easier to follow what's
> >> going on. Most of the modern email clients will display an popup
> >> window every-time you get an email, so I will know that somebody
> >> made  a post.
> >>
> >> What I like the most though is that I can read the posts offline but
> >> that's just me.
> > No, it's not just you. I am pushing for the feature for more than an
> > year, but till now with no results. Afaik the current forum toolkit is
> > able to send messages to mailing lists, so I guess we should try to
> > push this once again.
> >
> > As to clarify: imo I wouldn't need even to post from mailing list;
> > just to see the forum posted messages. If I want to answer I can go
> > there.
> >
> > thanks in advance for reconsidering this,
> Alex,
>
> We're trying to do what we can (and please hold off on the conspiracy
> theories as your subsequent message would seem to imply). It's just not
> as simple as just pushing a switch, or buying new software. We can't
> just throw away 30,000+ old posts in the forums. It's a gold mine of
> information.
>
> We used to run phpBB, which all in all was not a great piece of forum
> software for a number of reasons, just one of them being lack of mail or
> NNTP integration.
>
> So in Sept. 2005, we attempted to move to Jive Forums, which would have
> given us excellent forums, and also excellent mailing list and NNTP
> integration, but we couldn't convert the existing message base (nor
> really even the user base) properly. Throwing away old messages was
> simply not an option.
>
> So we switched to vBulletin instead, which at least is more secure than
> phpBB, has a _much_ better management story, seems to scale better, has
> better forum functionality in pretty well every respect, can at least
> send email digests of individual forums (if not full mail integration),
> and was able to convert all old posts and the user properly. The one
> issue in conversion was that old internal links remained in old format,
> and still don't work. That particular issue, we're paying a student to
> manually fix up.
>
> At this point I'm waiting for either this NNTP plugin for vBulletin
>   http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3D92588&page=3D1&pp=3D1=
5
> to actually put out a non-alpha released for vBulletin 3.5, or vBulletin
> itself to add NNTP (and/or full mail) integration. I presume the former
> will happen before the latter, since vBulletin 3.5 only came out in Sept.
>
> Colin
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