Re: [Springframework-developer] New www.springframework.org site is live!

[Colin S. <col...@ex...>]

Erwin Vervaet wrote:

> Just a couple of remarks/questions:
>
> * Where are all the links to articles and presentations? The articles 
> page only lists 2 articles. If I remember correctly there used to be 
> quite a bit more. Also, the presentations page is just "page not found".

The old site is still temporarilly available at
   http://oldwww.springframework.org.

There were not that many articles. The old site was completely static 
and maintained by hand, with some stuff being moved off the front page 
when it got older, mainly news and events. The demo/tutorial stuff is 
not on the new site yet, that's one thing I can think of.

The basic idea with technical articles and presentations is that people 
enter a 'story' as the content type, and assign it the "Techincal 
Article" or "Presentation" category. Then it gets aggregated 
automatically. We can of course also have a static page for anything 
that we want, so it may make sense to have static articles and 
presentation pages, for more important links, and then also have the 
auto-aggregated page.

> * The submenu under the "links" menu does not reflect the structure. 
> It only lists "Buttons", but not "Articles" or "Presentations".
>
> * If you click "Development > Continuous Build" you go to a somewhat 
> messed up page that has the old look & feel.

Will reply to Darren's other message.

>
> * When you click "Documentation > Books" the menu on the left collapses.

This is normal. What you are looking at here is an aggregation page. The 
contents just get selected based on the category they have.

>
> * "Documentation > PDF Manual" gives "page not found".

fixed

>
> * "About > License" does not link to the license.

This was intentional, to the extent that this is the only page on _our_ 
site that talks about the Spring license. I did want a link on the menu 
at left for the License, since it's important to a lot of people, and 
it's hI guess that link could take you directly to the Apache License at 
Apache. But to me it's a little bit diferent to have a menu link called 
License (which you do want as it's highly visible) and have that take 
you to a page which says on it that the license is Apache, then points 
you to that, than to have that menu like take you directly to the Apache 
license. The latter action implies something, but doesn't say it.

>
> * IMHO the font size is a bit on the large side for the "main content 
> area".

This is quite debateable. FirFox/Mozilla can always scale any fonts, but 
on the other hand if you want people in IE to be able to scale fonts up 
or down, you have to make fonts be relative, not using fixed pixel 
sizes. This is how the site is set up now. But in fact if you do that, 
fonts in FireFox/Mozilla are actually going to look pretty much smaller. 
As it is, on the 3 systems I've tried the site on, IE looks pretty 
normal (maybe the headline font for each article could be smaller), but 
FireFox/Mozilla looks pretty tiny, and for sure needs to be _bigger_. I 
don't consider the latter that big a deal, as FireFox/Mozilla users are 
pretty used to scaling stuff as needed. We could actually get the site 
to look identical in both browsers by using pixel fonts, but then IE 
users  would lose the ability to scale to a size they need.


-- 
Colin Sampaleanu
Interface21 Principal Consultant
Spring Training, Consulting and Support - "From the Source"
http://www.springframework.com