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From: Dmitriy K. <dko...@ru...> - 2005-03-24 20:40:27
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March, just out of curiosity - what data access strategy this site uses and does it have a "rich" (with behavior) domain model? Dmitriy. March, Andres wrote: >You may also include http://eq2players.station.sony.com, arguably the >coolest site to use Spring. We have hundreds of thousands of users and >serve thousands concurrently. We're on 1.1.4. > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: spr...@li... >>[mailto:spr...@li...] On >> >> >Behalf > > >>Of Juergen Hoeller >>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 5:17 AM >>To: spr...@li... >>Subject: [Springframework-developer] Public references >> >>Hi Cameron, >> >>As you're mentioning those two sites so publically ;-) Do you think we >> >> >we > > >>could include them in our public reference list for Spring? We're >> >> >about to > > >>collect some references for exposure on the Spring website. >> >>Our main problem is that public references in the banking sector >> >> >(where > > >>some >>of the largest Spring deployments are) are usually impossible to get. >>Therefore, we're particularly grateful for references that we're >> >> >allowed > > >>to >>use on our website! >> >>Thanks for your kind words on the quality of our snapshots, BTW :-) >> >>Juergen >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: spr...@li... >>[mailto:spr...@li...]On >> >> >Behalf > > >>Of Cameron Braid >>Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:10 PM >>To: spr...@li... >>Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 >> >> >>My 2c contribution : >> >>I have been using hibernate 3.0 rc1, and a custom spring snapshot from >>HEAD >>since the >> >> >http://opensource.atlassian.com/projects/spring/browse/SPR-300 > > >>patches were comitted to HEAD - the for the last 3 weeks - without any >>issues - in production sites. One site being an ecommerce shopping >> >> >site > > >>http://www.chemistaustralia.com.au/ which uses the Criteria API a >> >> >lot, > > >>and >>the other http://www.drivenow.com.au/ a last minute car hire site >> >> >which > > >>makes heavy use of HQL. >> >>Both the spring project and hibernate have a very high standard for >> >> >their > > >>pre-releases. >> >>Cameron. >> >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: spr...@li... >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On >>> >>> >Behalf > > >>>Of Rod Johnson >>>Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 8:06 PM >>>To: spr...@li... >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 >>> >>>Well Spring 1.2 RC1 is a day or two away and it's probably as stable >>> >>> >as > > >>>Hibernate 3.0 RC1. >>> >>>R >>> >>>Alexandru Popescu wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Thanks everybody for your answers. My case is pretty uncommon: i >>>> >>>> >am > > >>>trying to integrate the H3 >>> >>> >>>>support into the existing stable 1.1.5 version. >>>>You may ask why this? I need some of the features from H3 (simple, >>>> >>>> >>ain't >> >> >>>it :-) ). So, being a week >>> >>> >>>>old Spring user (in fact i haven't write a single line of code, so >>>> >>>> >I > > >>>would say Spring researcher) I >>> >>> >>>>thought it would be a good idea to ask the developers if my >>>> >>>> >feeling > > >>was >> >> >>>right. >>> >>> >>>>-- >>>>:alex |.::the_mindstorm::.| >>>> >>>>[quote Mark St Godard::on 3/23/2005 5:23 PM] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Yeah Alex, >>>>> >>>>>For me (as an Eclipse user) it was just an exercise in >>>>> >>>>> >CTRL-Shift-O to > > >>>>>reference the new APIs... and to also change >>>>>the applicationContext XML to reference the new >>>>> >>>>> >>>LocalSessionFactoryBean... >>> >>> >>>>>Note: I was not using Annotations at this point on this current >>>>> >>>>> >>>project... >>> >>> >>>>>so it was pretty straightforward >>>>> >>>>>Cheers >>>>>Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Colin Sampaleanu >>>>> <col...@ex... >>>>> m> >>>>> >>>>> >>>To >>> >>> >>>>> Sent by: springframework- >>>>> >>>>> >>>dev...@li... >>> >>> >>>>> springframework-d rceforge.net >>>>> eveloper-admin@li >>>>> >>>>> >>>cc >>> >>> >>>>> sts.sourceforge.n >>>>> et >>>>> >>>>> >>>Subject >>> >>> >>>>> Re: >>>>> >>>>> >[Springframework-developer] > > >>>>> Hibernate3 vs Hibernate2 >>>>> 03/23/2005 09:10 >>>>> AM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Please respond to >>>>> springframework-d >>>>> eveloper >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Alexandru Popescu wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Hi! >>>>>> >>>>>>I saw in the ML that the Hibernate3 support is in CVS HEAD >>>>>> >>>>>> >already. > > >>Can >> >> >>>>>you point me to the main >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>changes provided in the Spring support for Hibernate3 vs >>>>>> >>>>>> >Hibernate2? > > >>(i >> >> >>>>>expected there where changes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>required by the changes (from check to unchecked) exceptions in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>Hibernate3 >>> >>> >>>>>and for supporting the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>new features, but it will be more easy for me to have a Spring >>>>>> >>>>>> >expert > > >>>>>opinion on this). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Alex, >>>>> >>>>>Juergen did the actual conversion, so is the final authority, but >>>>> >>>>> >the > > >>>>>port is mostly a straight port of the existing classes to reflect >>>>> >>>>> >the > > >>>>>new packages used by Hibernate 3. One difference in Hibernate 3 is >>>>> >>>>> >>that >> >> >>>>>Hibernate 3 does throw unchecked exceptions instead of checked >>>>>exceptions, but Spring users should actually be insulated from >>>>> >>>>> >that, > > >>as >> >> >>>>>they would have normally be catching Spring's own unchcked >>>>>DataAccessExceptionHierarchy. Spring's HibernateTemplate class for >>>>>Hibernate v3 does add the important methods added to v3's Session, >>>>> >>>>> >>such >> >> >>>>>as the 'load()' variants which take an entityName, e.g.: >>>>> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/v3/api/ >>>>> >>>>>Generally, you should be able to take existing Spring-based code >>>>> >>>>> >using > > >>>>>the Hibernate 2 support, and convert it to using the Hibernate 3 >>>>>support, by just changing all org.springframework.hibernate.* >>>>> >>>>> >package > > >>>>>names to org.springframework.hibernate3.*. Any breakage (not that >>>>> >>>>> >you > > >>>>>should generally expect any) should generally be from changes in >>>>>Hibernate itself between versions, and not the Spring support >>>>> >>>>> >code. > > >>Note >> >> >>>>>that Hibernate has actually deprecated a few methods on the >>>>> >>>>> >Session > > >>>>>interface (they are only available now as part of the >>>>>org.hibernate.classic.Session interface. I believe >>>>> >>>>> >HibernateTemplate > > >>has >> >> >>>>>also removed some of the methods which were directly exposed and >>>>> >>>>> >are > > >>now >> >> >>>>>deprecated. >>>>> >>>>>Colin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>This SF.net email is sponsored by: 2005 Windows Mobile Application >>>>> >>>>> >>>Contest >>> >>> >>>>>Submit applications for Windows Mobile(tm)-based Pocket PCs or >>>>> >>>>> >>>Smartphones >>> >>> >>>>>for the chance to win $25,000 and application distribution. 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