Re: [Springframework-developer] Re: [Springframework-user] Hibernate 3 and Spring 1.1.4

[Juergen H. <ju...@in...>]

Thanks for the status report, Rob!

Leaving some of the advanced JMX stuff in the sandbox is perfectly OK. We
did that for the JMS support too; actually, some of that stuff *still*
resides in the sandbox, because there hasn't been much demand for it...

I appreciate any JMX work you can done till end of Feb. Let's go through it
again at that time and decide which parts to finally move over to the main
sources for 1.2 RC1.

As I said, reference documentation is important but not necessarily for 1.2
RC1. Same for testing: We can cover further application servers till 1.2 RC2
/ final. A sample application isn't mandatory for RC1 either.

So let's focus on getting the core JMX support stable and javadoced till end
of Feb. Once you return from the US at the end of March, we should still
have a couple of weeks till 1.2 final, allowing for docs and samples.

Juergen


-----Original Message-----
From: spr...@li...
[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf
Of Rob Harrop
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:40 AM
To: spr...@li...
Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Re: [Springframework-user]
Hibernate 3 and Spring 1.1.4


+1 for 1.1.5 end of Feb
+1 for 1.2 in mid March

JMX support is all but done. I need to put together a sample application
and I need to do some more tests on older JMX versions. Currently, all
tests pass on MX4J 2.0, JDK 5.0 and JMX 1.2 RI. I want to test the
functionality that SHOULD work on JMX 1.1 RI, Tomcat 5.0, JBoss and BEA
8.1. A simple web application that tests JMX 1.0 features and one that
tests JMX 1.2 and JSR-160 features should solve this.

I am pretty clear until the start of March, but I'm then in the US for 3
weeks. However, I can get JMX done well before I leave. I am planning
JasperReports stuff for 1.1.5 which will done by next week and then I
have docs and testing for JMX. I already have 12 pages of the JMX docs
written and most of the JavaDoc is complete so I'm not that far off. The
only thing that probably won't make 1.2 is the
XmlModelMBeanInfoAssembler since I don't think we'll have enough time to
test. However, that will be available in sandbox for anyone who is
desparate and InterfaceBasedModelMBeanInfoAssembler is fine for handling
all general per-instance configurations.

So I see no problem in finishing up the issues I have for 1.1.5 by the
end of next week and then getting JMX production ready for end of Feb.

Rob

Juergen Hoeller wrote:

>Everybody,
>
>I would prefer to introduce Hibernate 3 support alongside Hibernate 2.1
>support in the core too. However, I'd also like to avoid messing around
with
>a separate add-on...
>
>I still believe that Spring 1.2 RC1 would be a nice match for a Hibernate 3
>RC. Stuff like that and JMX support are already worth raising the version
>number to 1.2. So what about redesigning the schedule a bit: 1.1.5 by end
of
>February, 1.2 RC1 in mid March?
>
>JMX support is more or less finished, at least for the 1.2 scope - Rob,
>would you agree? Hibernate 3 support is straightforward: essentially, I
>intend to spend one afternoon for a fresh port of the current Hibernate 2.1
>support.
>
>JCA CCI support is almost finished too, thanks to ongoing work by Thierry
>Templier (who's be working on it for a couple of months). I've already
>reviewed it a while ago, and what I saw looked good.
>
>So if we take those as cornerstones for Spring 1.2, we should be able to go
>for 1.2 RC1 within two or three weeks after 1.1.5: essentially, just moving
>the JMX support over from the sandbox, doing the Hibernate 3 port, and
>dropping the JCA support in from JIRA - then release 1.2 RC1.
>
>Documentation for those new modules can come afterwards, for 1.2 RC1 or 1.2
>final. That's gonna be a bit of work too, but in good old 1.1 RC spirit
this
>doesn't have to be finished for 1.2 RC1.
>
>Everything else would have to be deferred till Spring 1.3 then, for example
>portlet support (which is scheduled for 1.3 anyway), Cayenne support, etc.
>I'd estimate the target date for 1.3 to be around August.
>
>The keys to an early 1.2 release are manageable scope and focused work. I
>believe we can release 1.2 RC1 in mid March, and probably 1.2 final in late
>April, provided that we keep the scope limited (as suggested above).
>
>Thoughts? Opinions? Availabilities till mid March?
>
>Juergen
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spr...@li...
>[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf Of
>Colin Sampaleanu
>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 10:54 PM
>To: spr...@li...
>Subject: Re: [Springframework-user] Hiberante 3 and Spring 1.1.4
>
>
>If it's that close, I don't really see an issue with having 3.0 supprt
>as an addon for 1.1.5. It could for example be in the sandbox, and a
>part of the ant script could even package up that part separately. I
>guess the main reason not to have it built in for 1.1.5 is the fact that
>Hib 3 still won't be out by then, and our code will be new enough it
>won't be really well tested enough. But as for 1.2, I think it makes
>sense to have both versions. They don't interfere with each other, and
>people will be using both Hibernate 2.1 and 3 in the next year at least.
>At some point after that it would make sense to deprecate the 2.1
>support. This all assumes we even have the time resources to do it for
>1.1.5...
>
>tho...@tr... wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hibernate 3.0 beta 3 just came out and they state that a release candidate
>>
>>
>is
>
>
>>just weeks away.  Maybe we could provide a separate add-on module for
1.1.5
>>
>>
>and
>
>
>>then swap out Hibernate 2 for Hibernate 3 in 1.2 RC1 with a separate
>>
>>
>Hibernate 2
>
>
>>as an add-on.
>>
>>Thomas
>>
>>
>>Quoting Juergen Hoeller <ju...@in...>:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hibernate3 support is planned for Spring 1.2, not to be released before
>>>
>>>
>1.2
>
>
>>>RC1 (early April).
>>>
>>>Hibernate3 unfortunately uses a different package name (org.hibernate
>>>instead of net.sf.hibernate), so we need to provide a separate but
>>>
>>>
>analogous
>
>
>>>set of support classes (in org.springframework.orm.hibernate3).
>>>
>>>In general, we don't include such major new features in point releases.
>>>Cayenne support, JCA support and JMX support are also planned for 1.2
RC1.
>>>Essentially, 1.2 will mainly be about those four new modules.
>>>
>>>Juergen
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: spr...@li...
>>>[mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf Of
>>>Richard Hightower
>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:06 PM
>>>To: spr...@li...
>>>Subject: [Springframework-user] Hiberante 3 and Spring 1.1.4
>>>
>>>
>>>This may be a dumb question.
>>>
>>>Does Spring 1.1.4 (the latest) have support for Hibernate 3?
>>>
>>>I think I read once that it is only in CVS, and I did not see a mention
of
>>>it in the release notes for 1.1.4.
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought I would ask.
>>>
>>>
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