Re: [Springframework-developer] HiveMind Support

[Drew D. <dr...@og...>]

Rod Johnson wrote:

>> Thats great to know! I've been using lots of Tapestry + Spring + 
>> Hibernate lately and was a little worried that Tapestry 3.1 with all 
>> the HiveMind stuff might be painful to use what with all the HIveMind 
>> stuff everywhere - but this is great news!
>
> Must say that I'm still not entirely comfortable with this direction 
> of Tapestry. It smacks of a certain software company's policy of 
> bundling things :-)
>
> But, sure, the Spring philosophy is that we integrate with things, if 
> it brings value to our users.


I've worked with this same stack (T-S-H) extensively. 

I also hammer on Howard to make sure that the configuration of HiveMind 
is capable of handling Spring integration smoothly.

I wrote some integration stuff with Tapestry that allows for smoother 
integration with Spring for finding beans in components/pages, and for 
allowing the Visit and Global objects to participate with Spring in 
application and session configuration.  I'd like a more orthogonal 
coupling that I currently have, but the problem is that there are 
certain aspects of Tapestry that are not "injectable" just as the Visit 
and Global (which are created by the Engine ala a factory method).  I 
would really love to be able to integrate Spring services smoothly in 
all of the aspects of a Tapestry application - most notably the 
component loading (AOP would be a godsend; if it would look up the 
component references and let Spring-managed factories handle the pooling 
and creation of component/page classes that would be super-nifty).

Anyway, Howard is at least aware of a vocal presence lobbying for this 
kind of support.  I don't want him to feel that no one wants his child 
(HiveMind), but Spring has a critical mass that should not be ignored.  
Howard is intellectually honest enough to acknowlege this, I think.

- Drew

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