Re: [Springframework-developer] Re: Hibernate 3

[Seth L. <set...@gm...>]

I think Spring 1.XX should always work with Hibernate 2.  A Spring
2.XX release could drop Hibernate 2, IMHO.  But that is a far bit
away.

Minor release numbers should always be backwards compatible.

My two cents,
Seth

On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 12:55:36 -0500, Tom K <tk...@co...> wrote:
> I second this (anyone else?). Hibernate3 will be what I develop my new
> projects with.
> 
> Tom K.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
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> Of Artur Karazniewicz
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 12:48 PM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: [Springframework-developer] Re: Hibernate 3
> 
> Colin Sampaleanu wrote:
> 
> > Hibernate 3 is now out in Alpha. We should probably start thinking
> about
> > how to add support for it, and a timeframe.
> 
> It would be great to have HB3 incorporated into spring, even in sandbox.
> Lot
> of people could possibly help testing HB3 (well, at leas me:). Of course
> HB3 has a lot of new, shiny, sexy features :).
> 
> > It's actually good that we didn't do anything before this, as there
> have
> > been 4-5 bug fixes in Hibernate related session handling and
> transaction
> > code the last few weeks. Since Hibernate 3 is in an entirely different
> > package, what I think is probably the only viable option given that
> > people are going to be using Hibernate2 for a long time yet, is to
> build
> > up a parallel hierarchy of the support classes, probably with the same
> > package names, but 'hibernate3' instead of just 'hibernate'. Arguably,
> > the class names might make sense to have the version too, since it
> would
> > reduce confusion a lot.
> 
> I'm not convinced. I thing most developers will switch from 2 to 3
> within a
> year. After that HB2 will be virtually outdated (like HB1 is now) and
> spring will end up with "polluted" package names. I tend to wait few
> months
> and switch completly to HB3, instead of HB2 and not "polluting" spring
> packages. What about using "old" *.hibernate.* packages and adding
> classes
> with version suffix? Just my $0.02. (and of course, with CVS there are,
> unfortunatelly serious problems with directories - so refactoring
> (future
> hibernate3->hibernate migration) is rather hard, in this case).
> 
> > In terms of a timeframe, this could happen at any time in the sandbox,
> > and probably in the main source tree after 1.1 final is out. The main
> > issue is developer time, although I see the work as being pretty
> > straightforward to do a direct translation. It's definitely worth it
> to
> > then figure out what makes sense to add given the enhanced
> capabilities.
> >
> > One interesting thing I read in the release notes; Hibernate now
> throws
> > unchecked exceptions instead of checked exceptions...
> 
> Other which could reflect spring API are "named-entities". All "old"
> session
> - entity related - methods are now doubled with new, overloaded versions
> with entity name.
> 
> Having support for new hibernate - spring managed - events would be cool
> also.
> 
> Artur
> 
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