Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map

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Let's get this on a wiki page. Confluence, please :-)

I think we should also commit on the roadmap to:

- More bean definition options, scripting and a good JDBC option. Some of
this might make 1.1; some 1.2. We should not hold 1.1 for it, but just se=
e
what's ready in time.

- Dynamic reconfiguration. I'm working on this and should have something =
in
the sandbox in the next couple of weeks. Assuming enough people are
interested in this to start kicking the tyres and helping with testing, I=
'm
optimistic we'll get it in for 1.1. I think it's an important feature.

- JSF integration: at least the easy part of it, for 1.1. Ed Burns, the s=
pec
lead, is very interested in Spring and has offered to help us with this,
which is fantastic.

I see 1.1 as an evolutionary release, without notable new concepts.

I'm also keen to work in the longer term towards anything that can furthe=
r
simplify development: for example, leveraging metadata attributes to more
things. (Anyone tried the metadata-driven web controller option, btw?) If
you have any suggestions for making developers' lives easier, please shar=
e
them, so we can make Spring even better.

Regards,
Rod

----- Original Message -----
From: <tho...@tr...>
To: <spr...@li...>
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map

>
> From a JDBC perspective I'd like to add support for JDBC 3.0 auto
generated
> keys, maybe via an SqlInsert object.  This should be possible for 1.1.
>
> I'd also like to see support for declaring ApplicationContexts using a
scripting
> language like Jython.  This would probably be best for 1.2.
>
> James Duncan Davidson has an interesting take on Ant and XML files:
> http://x180.net/Articles/Java/AntAndXML.html
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>:
>
> > I'll be writing a number of tools to support some people here in code
> > manipulation and debuggin, but I'm not sure exactly how much actual U=
I
> > there'll be. A fair number of them may be command-line or with simple
> > UIs, so at this point it's not a given that I'll need any sort of
> > complicated library. I'll probably be starting in about 3-4 weeks.
> >
> > As for Eclipse, I've used it for ages, but on the programming side I'=
m
> > actually a complete neophyte, although I'm itching to get into the RC=
P
stuff
> >
> > Keith Donald wrote:
> >
> > >Colin,
> > >
> > >When do you think you'll be moving to the client-side?  It'd be grea=
t
to
> > >work together.  I have a similiar requirement: I need RCP in my curr=
ent
> > >project, so I will be nicely aligned for developing the module over =
the
> > >coming months.  It would be great if you could be an early adopter a=
nd
> > >developer at the same time...
> > >
> > >If you decide to go Eclipse RCP that would be good, too.  The main
upside I
> > >think we can offer is better Swing support (Swing is more mature tha=
n
SWT,
> > >and obviously a standard) and a nice integration with the rest of
Spring.
> > >But having an Eclipse expert would be invaluable for improving our
platform
> > >capabilities.  I'd also be interested in seeing if there are ways we
can
> > >integrate with the Eclipse effort as it matures, too.
> > >
> > >Keith
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Colin Sampaleanu" <col...@ex...>
> > >To: <spr...@li...>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Actually it's looking like I may be doing some client-side work (as
> > >>opposed to the mostly back-end/web stuff I am doing now), so I may =
get
> > >>involved. Haven't decided if I want to do the stuff in Swing or
Eclipse
> > >>RCP though...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Keith Donald wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Just like to add to the pot here regarding spring-rcp (especially
since
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >work
> > >
> > >
> > >>>is picking back up now):
> > >>>
> > >>>- I'd like to target the first 1.0 RCP release candidate along sid=
e
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Spring
> > >
> > >
> > >>>1.1 final this summer.
> > >>>
> > >>>We plan to include in the distribution a sample application
demonstrating
> > >>>the features of the platform (likely a port of the PetClinic or
Thomas's
> > >>>Beer app, adding RCP value like 'quick' sorting/filtering and
as-you-type
> > >>>field validation.)  I am hopeful by the first release we'll have
several
> > >>>articles lined up, too (I know several people interested in rich
client
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >dev
> > >
> > >
> > >>>have expressed interest in helping out there!)
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks,
> > >>>Keith
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: spr...@li...
> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On
Behalf
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Of
> > >
> > >
> > >>>j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT]
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:44 AM
> > >>>To: spr...@li...
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Good point regarding scheduling 1.1.1. I've intended to fill in a
> > >>>placeholder to make the gap to 1.2 RC1 seem less large ;-) I
completely
> > >>>agree that we shouldn't schedule such point releases in an officia=
l
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >release
> > >
> > >
> > >>>plan.
> > >>>
> > >>>If we manage to get JSF and/or Portlet support done in time for 1.=
1,
then
> > >>>I'm all for including it earlier. I'd like to release 1.1 final by
the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >end
> > >
> > >
> > >>>of August, though; I don't want to delay it for further features.
> > >>>
> > >>>Juergen
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: spr...@li...
> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...]On
Behalf
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Of
> > >
> > >
> > >>>Rod Johnson
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:41 PM
> > >>>To: spr...@li...
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Some comments:
> > >>>
> > >>>Spring 1.0.x: doc polishing, bugfixing, minor enhancements
> > >>>- 1.0.1: early April
> > >>>- 1.0.2: late May
> > >>>
> > >>>Spring 1.1.x: JMS support, JMX support, declarative validation
> > >>>[RJ: pointcut expression language (AOP), JSR-175 preview? ]
> > >>>- 1.1 RC1: early July
> > >>>- 1.1 final: late August
> > >>>- 1.1.1: late September
> > >>>[RJ: why are we _scheduling_ a 1.1.1?]
> > >>>
> > >>>Spring 1.2.x: OGNL support, JCA support, enhanced RMI support
> > >>>- 1.2 RC1: early November
> > >>>- 1.2 final: late December
> > >>>
> > >>>Further issues are JSF and Portlet support. There is actually quit=
e a
bit
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >of
> > >
> > >
> > >>>interest in these from various users/integrators; they are also
important
> > >>>for us from a marketing perspective. I'm not keen on providing
official
> > >>>support before 1.2, though.
> > >>>
> > >>>[RJ: depends on what's involved. I'd be keen to have JSF support
sooner
> > >>>rather than later if it's straightforward. I'm going to be looking=
 at
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >that
> > >
> > >
> > >>>soon. Portlets I think are more of a niche interest. ]
> > >>>
> > >>>Regards,
> > >>>Juergen
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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