RE: [Springframework-developer] Road map

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Hot reloadable contexts is pretty cool!

It would be nice to have something in the sandbox indeed. I'm currently
experimenting with a GroovyBeanDefinitionReader and it seems it's not =
going
to be all that tough to get it running!

Furthermore I like to see if it's possible to modify existing
beanfactories/appcontexts with Groovy.

Alef

> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
> [mailto:spr...@li...] On =
Behalf
> Of Rod Johnson
> Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2004 12:09 AM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
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> Absolutely agree. XML shouldn't be the only major config choice,
> especially
> now we've nicely decoupled bean definition registries from readers.
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> It looks like Groovy really has a lot of momentum now.
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> Another configuration option I'll be looking at shortly is improved
> database
> storage. I'm going to need this for a client.
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> I'm also looking at hot reload of contexts. I should have something in =
the
> sandbox in the next week or so. It looks quite exciting, and enables =
any
> bean definition to be modified: even to have different dependencies.
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> Regards,
> Rod
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Donald" <kd...@cs...>
> To: <spr...@li...>
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Road map
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> I think experimenting with integration with scripting languages like
> Groovy/Beanshell/Jython for configuration sounds like a great idea.  I
> like
> how lists, maps, and properties are "first class citizens."
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> Groovy was just accepted as a JSR which I find interesting! Keith
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
> [mailto:spr...@li...] On =
Behalf
> Of
> tho...@tr...
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 12:09 PM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
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> >From a JDBC perspective I'd like to add support for JDBC 3.0 auto
> >generated
> keys, maybe via an SqlInsert object.  This should be possible for 1.1.
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> I'd also like to see support for declaring ApplicationContexts using a
> scripting language like Jython.  This would probably be best for 1.2.
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> James Duncan Davidson has an interesting take on Ant and XML files:
> http://x180.net/Articles/Java/AntAndXML.html
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> Thomas
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> Quoting Colin Sampaleanu <col...@ex...>:
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> > I'll be writing a number of tools to support some people here in =
code
> > manipulation and debuggin, but I'm not sure exactly how much actual =
UI
> > there'll be. A fair number of them may be command-line or with =
simple
> > UIs, so at this point it's not a given that I'll need any sort of
> > complicated library. I'll probably be starting in about 3-4 weeks.
> >
> > As for Eclipse, I've used it for ages, but on the programming side =
I'm
> > actually a complete neophyte, although I'm itching to get into the =
RCP
> stuff
> >
> > Keith Donald wrote:
> >
> > >Colin,
> > >
> > >When do you think you'll be moving to the client-side?  It'd be =
great
> > >to work together.  I have a similiar requirement: I need RCP in my
> > >current project, so I will be nicely aligned for developing the
> > >module over the coming months.  It would be great if you could be =
an
> > >early adopter and developer at the same time...
> > >
> > >If you decide to go Eclipse RCP that would be good, too.  The main
> > >upside I think we can offer is better Swing support (Swing is more
> > >mature than SWT, and obviously a standard) and a nice integration
> > >with the rest of Spring. But having an Eclipse expert would be
> > >invaluable for improving our platform capabilities.  I'd also be
> > >interested in seeing if there are ways we can integrate with the
> > >Eclipse effort as it matures, too.
> > >
> > >Keith
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Colin Sampaleanu" <col...@ex...>
> > >To: <spr...@li...>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:20 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Actually it's looking like I may be doing some client-side work =
(as
> > >>opposed to the mostly back-end/web stuff I am doing now), so I may
> > >>get involved. Haven't decided if I want to do the stuff in Swing =
or
> > >>Eclipse RCP though...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Keith Donald wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Just like to add to the pot here regarding spring-rcp (especially
> > >>>since
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >work
> > >
> > >
> > >>>is picking back up now):
> > >>>
> > >>>- I'd like to target the first 1.0 RCP release candidate along =
side
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Spring
> > >
> > >
> > >>>1.1 final this summer.
> > >>>
> > >>>We plan to include in the distribution a sample application
> > >>>demonstrating the features of the platform (likely a port of the
> > >>>PetClinic or Thomas's Beer app, adding RCP value like 'quick'
> > >>>sorting/filtering and as-you-type field validation.)  I am =
hopeful
> > >>>by the first release we'll have several articles lined up, too (I
> > >>>know several people interested in rich client
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >dev
> > >
> > >
> > >>>have expressed interest in helping out there!)
> > >>>
> > >>>Thanks,
> > >>>Keith
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: spr...@li...
> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...] On
> > >>>Behalf
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Of
> > >
> > >
> > >>>j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT]
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:44 AM
> > >>>To: spr...@li...
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Good point regarding scheduling 1.1.1. I've intended to fill in a
> > >>>placeholder to make the gap to 1.2 RC1 seem less large ;-) I
> > >>>completely agree that we shouldn't schedule such point releases =
in
> > >>>an official
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >release
> > >
> > >
> > >>>plan.
> > >>>
> > >>>If we manage to get JSF and/or Portlet support done in time for
> > >>>1.1, then I'm all for including it earlier. I'd like to release =
1.1
> > >>>final by the
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >end
> > >
> > >
> > >>>of August, though; I don't want to delay it for further features.
> > >>>
> > >>>Juergen
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: spr...@li...
> > >>>[mailto:spr...@li...]On
> > >>>Behalf
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >Of
> > >
> > >
> > >>>Rod Johnson
> > >>>Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 2:41 PM
> > >>>To: spr...@li...
> > >>>Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Road map
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Some comments:
> > >>>
> > >>>Spring 1.0.x: doc polishing, bugfixing, minor enhancements
> > >>>- 1.0.1: early April
> > >>>- 1.0.2: late May
> > >>>
> > >>>Spring 1.1.x: JMS support, JMX support, declarative validation
> > >>>[RJ: pointcut expression language (AOP), JSR-175 preview? ]
> > >>>- 1.1 RC1: early July
> > >>>- 1.1 final: late August
> > >>>- 1.1.1: late September
> > >>>[RJ: why are we _scheduling_ a 1.1.1?]
> > >>>
> > >>>Spring 1.2.x: OGNL support, JCA support, enhanced RMI support
> > >>>- 1.2 RC1: early November
> > >>>- 1.2 final: late December
> > >>>
> > >>>Further issues are JSF and Portlet support. There is actually =
quite
> > >>>a bit
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >of
> > >
> > >
> > >>>interest in these from various users/integrators; they are also
> > >>>important for us from a marketing perspective. I'm not keen on
> > >>>providing official support before 1.2, though.
> > >>>
> > >>>[RJ: depends on what's involved. I'd be keen to have JSF support
> > >>>sooner rather than later if it's straightforward. I'm going to be
> > >>>looking at
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >that
> > >
> > >
> > >>>soon. Portlets I think are more of a niche interest. ]
> > >>>
> > >>>Regards,
> > >>>Juergen
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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