RE: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects

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Maybe because they are more "well-known", they don't cause the same kind
of conflict in my mind ?

Anyway, it doesn't really matter.  Once people start knowing what RCP
stands for, then it won't be a problem anymore.

Bye !
Fran=E7ois

On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:52:20 +0100, "j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT]"
<jue...@we...> said:
> But doesn't the sample apply to terms like DAO, ORM, or AOP? We're
> happily using those too...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: spr...@li...
> [mailto:spr...@li...]On Behalf
> Of Francois Beausoleil
> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 5:26 PM
> To: spr...@li...
> Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects
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> Hi !
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> Sorry for jumping on the bandwagon, but:
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> RCP =3D Rich Client Project
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>        or
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> RCP =3D Remotely Callable Procedure
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>        or
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> RCP =3D Rendering Capable Computer
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> TLAs (Three-Letter-Acronyms) are certainly cool, but they don't say
> much...  I would prefer richclient, but my vote is certainly non-binding.
>  Besides, most people use an IDE, and the IDE is responsible for typing
> many things up.  The only place where this is an issue is in the XML
> configuration files, and Idea is capable of using Ctrl+Space to navigate
> the usual package hierarchy.
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> My 2 cents...
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> Bye !
> Fran=E7ois
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> On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:55:15 -0500, "Keith Donald" <kd...@cs...>
> said:
> > So we could have:
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> > #1
> > spring-rcp.jar
> > spring-rcp as the CVS module
> > org.springframework.rcp.*
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> > [or]
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> > #2
> > spring-richclient.jar
> > spring-richclient as the CVS module
> > org.springframework.richclient.*
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> > I'm torn. rcp is a bit cryptic but it is less typing and the acronym to
> > me
> > has a certain cool factor.  I'd be happy to work with either.  Keith
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> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT]" <jue...@we...>
> > To: <spr...@li...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 10:18 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects
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> > > I'd like to keep the module name somewhat in sync with the package an=
d jar
> > file name. I don't really see the point in calling the package "rcp" but
> > the
> > module "rich-client".
> > >
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: spr...@li...
> > > [mailto:spr...@li...]On Beha=
lf
> > > Of Keith Donald
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 4:01 PM
> > > To: spr...@li...
> > > Subject: Re: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm fine with 'spring-rich-client' as the module name... the main rea=
son I
> > > suggested 'spring-rcp' initially was to be consistent with the propos=
ed
> > > package name: org.springframework.rcp (to me
> > org.springframework.richclient
> > > seemed a little wordy.)
> > >
> > > 'rcp' also seems to be a buzzing acronym these days, not that I am big
> > into
> > > buzzwords or anything (although  I do have a business degree. :-)) Ke=
ith
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > From: "Kopylenko, Dmitry" <dko...@su...>
> > > To: <spr...@li...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:09 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, spring-rcp is a bit cryptic. How about spring-rich-client?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT] [mailto:juergen.hoeller@werk3at.c=
om]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 8:04 AM
> > > > To: spr...@li...
> > > > Subject: RE: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Any opinions regarding the new module names? Else, I'll create
> > > "spring-rcp"
> > > > and "spring-eclipse" in the course of this week.
> > > >
> > > > Juergen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: spr...@li...
> > > > [mailto:spr...@li...]On Be=
half
> > Of
> > > > j=FCrgen h=F6ller [werk3AT]
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:59 AM
> > > > To: spr...@li...
> > > > Subject: [Springframework-developer] Spring sub-projects
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Everybody,
> > > >
> > > > As recently discussed in private mails, I suggest to keep sub-proje=
cts
> > > that
> > > > are close to the Spring core as separate modules in Spring's main C=
VS.
> > The
> > > > first two candidates are:
> > > >
> > > > - Keith Donald's Spring Rich Client Platform
> > > > - Torsten Juergeleit's Spring Eclipse Plugin
> > > >
> > > > Both Keith and Torsten are in favor of hosting them in our main CVS=
. So
> > if
> > > > noone objects, I will create new CVS modules "spring-rcp" and
> > > > "spring-eclipse", and accordingly give Keith and Torsten commit rig=
hts
> > for
> > > > the main CVS. As the module names cannot be changed easily, feel fr=
ee to
> > > > suggest different names!
> > > >
> > > > The rationale is to keep all projects that use "org.springframework=
" as
> > > > package name in Spring's main CVS. Separate modules make sense to l=
et
> > the
> > > > sub-projects evolve independently; this way, they do not have to be
> > > released
> > > > in direct accordance with the Spring core. Of course, generic class=
es
> > that
> > > > emerge can still go into the core.
> > > >
> > > > Consequently, both sub-projects should also get respective sections=
 on
> > our
> > > > main website. We should definitely clarify all this before 1.0 final
> > > (March
> > > > 1st), as I expect quite a lot of media coverage at that time - we
> > > shouldn't
> > > > miss that chance!
> > > >
> > > > Juergen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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