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From: Lincoln S. <ls...@cs...> - 2007-08-21 16:34:56
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Does this make sequence_variant and sequence_alteration siblings? That doesn't sound right. It seems to me that the two ideas of a change and the nature of the change are orthogonal to each other, such that the genetic properties are attributes of the change and should be combined via cross products. Let's take a simple case where the two genetic properties are "fixed" for a fixed= , species-specific change, and "polymorphic", for a population polymorphism. Hence I can see something like the following: sequence_alteration deletion insertion inversion substitution translocation polymorphic sequence_alteration polymorphic deletion polymorphic insertion polymorphic inversion polymorphic substitution polymorphic translocation fixed sequence_alteration fixed deletion fixed insertion fixed inversion fixed substitution fixed translocation The problem that I see is what to call rare or experimentally-induced mutations, which nevertheless can be transmitted as alleles. If we aren't careful we will be drawn into definitions of "rare polymorphism" and "commo= n polymorphism." Lincoln On 7/25/07, Karen Eilbeck <ei...@fr...> wrote: > > Hi > > At the recent immunology workshop we decided to add new terms (allele, > genotype etc. ) to sequence_variant, which already had kinds of variation= as > its children (insertion, inversion etc). This has caused some problems: > allele and insertion should not be siblings. > > One term is being used to describe two phenomena; differences that relat= e > to populations, and differences between two sequences. > > We need to modify the ontology. > > The way I think this should be is that sequence_variant should be the ter= m > that is the parent of allele etc. It needs a new definition. > > We need a new term sequence_alteration to capture the actual changes in > the sequence between a variant and the reference sequence. (alteration is > the neutral term suggested by HGVS.) > > This would be the new structure: > > sequence_variant > > allele > > genotype > > haplotype > > polymorphic_sequence_variant > > > > sequence_alteration > > deletion =96 change definition > > deletion_junction - remove > > insertion > > insertion_site - remove > > inversion > > substitution > > translocation > > translocation_site - remove > > > > These are my first stabs at defining these terms: > > A sequence_variant is a non exact copy of a sequence_feature or genome > exhibiting one or more sequence_alteration. > > A sequence_alteration is a sequence_feature whose extent is the deviation > from another sequence. > > Comments, better definitions etc would be appreciated, > Karen > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > SOng-devel mailing list > SOn...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/song-devel > > --=20 Lincoln D. Stein Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory 1 Bungtown Road Cold Spring Harbor, NY 11724 (516) 367-8380 (voice) (516) 367-8389 (fax) FOR URGENT MESSAGES & SCHEDULING, PLEASE CONTACT MY ASSISTANT, SANDRA MICHELSEN, AT mic...@cs... |