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From: Pino C. <gco...@gm...> - 2008-05-05 16:20:21
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Hy all, I started to improve registry site documentation adding the apt default files : * user-guide.apt * overview.apt * index.apt My official line is to complete the actual site-doc to give more visibility of the existing module.. I confess that i just resolved a bug and improved a good part of existing java doc .. I would like to receive feedback from developer list before going on.. and to congratulate to all for the job made during these days.. Thanks all .. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-Smartweb-registry--Improving-doc-site-tp17065332s17546p17065332.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-05-04 23:32:59
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As promised, here follows the other modules answers - browse # What supplies the module? it will (still alfa) provide control over web site navigation, allowing to constrain users to follow a certain path visiting the site or using the application # Can you list the elements of the module? it consists of a servlet filter and request processor intercepting and redirecting requests # Can you describe the main features of the module? it mainly allow to describe navigation paths like "this page can be displayed only if page X has been visited before" or "after page Z user must display page K" # Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? the module is a very early stage, nothing usable for now - forum # What supplies the module? it will (still alfa) provide a forum basic structure so everyone will be able to integrate forum-like features in their applications # Can you list the elements of the module? in our vision a Forum is divisible into many Topics each one consisting of one or more Posts. as usual there are different kinds of users (administrators, moderators, simple users and guests) and different types of posts (stiky, normal, very important and so on) # Can you describe the main features of the module? i think the most interesting feature we wish to introduce is the HTML editor integration as we already choosed one of the most interesting editors in the open source market: FCKEditor # Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? not yet, sorry - mail # What supplies the module? this will probably become a top level project like smartshell as this module aims to produce a complete and customizable web mail client structured much like the GMail client but with more standard features as it will probably use the IMAP protocol # Can you list the elements of the module? as you can imagine the basic element is the MailBox which contains Folders of Messages. # Can you describe the main features of the module? we plan to use IMAP filtering to share the filtering rules with the standalone client; in the meanwhile we planned to use the Apache Lucene full text search engine to allow quick and precise searches # Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? not yet, sorry - poll # What supplies the module? it aims to provide a questionnaire like infrastructure so you can submit and further elaborate surveys # Can you list the elements of the module? the main element is the Poll element which enlists Questions both with closed (ranged) Answer and open (free text) answers; every time someone submits the questionnaire a Submission will be created to map the answers providen # Can you describe the main features of the module? i hope i already did... # Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? not yet - report # What supplies the module? this module aims to provide support in report generation # Can you list the elements of the module? this module is at it's very first stage... # Can you describe the main features of the module? we have many ideas, but still no decision has been made until now # Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? not yet shop # What supplies the module? this will be the e-commerce template for smartweb # Can you list the elements of the module? well, this is one of the most known business domain... we have Stores, Categories, Items and Services (as we want to support service shopping too) # Can you describe the main features of the module? we differ from others because our shopping facility will be completely localizable both in terms of text and descriptions and in terms of units and currencies, interfacing with external web services to obtain exchange rates and integrating with other modules to obtain all the feature a modern e-shop requires # Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? well, we are still deciding some elements to be honest -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-30 15:36:30
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Hi all, I wish to inform you we have finally managed to perform a new release of the smartweb project and main module: smartweb 1.2.4 smartweb-test 1.0.3 templates 1.2.4 smartweb-auth 0.8.0 It costed a lot of work, but we are now one step nearer to the goal as all releases are more stable than previous one, especially the auth module. Thanks to everyone partecipated into this achievement! -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-28 23:13:51
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Pino Contartese wrote: > Hy all, > while testing Helper classes in the module I considere the idea to change > the default constructor into another one which take Entry object as > parameter.The reasons are a lot ..at first > EntryHelper take the summary informations by its Entry for each concrete > implementation (ListHelper and EntityHelper) why have i to set this > component every times? > > Waiting for your reply. Hi Pino, if I don't misunderstand you your proposal is to change the ListHelper and EntityHelper classes to provide a constructor which sets the object to be helped on. This is a good approach in my opinion but I wish to provide some other option to your choice: - a static class which will be very less memory consuming, but may be not so helping as you have to pass the List or Entity on each method - adding those methods directly onto the classes to avoid the consumption for an additional object, so we can completely drop the helper classes Just to remember to other developers, the Helper classes were developed to ease finding addresses of a specific type as we were not able to solve the problem through introspection at the business level because of the Hibernate proxy classes wrapping the addresses. Can you provide some code examples about the benefit of the changes you are proposing? Thank you, Roberto |
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From: Pino C. <gco...@gm...> - 2008-04-28 23:03:18
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Hy all, while testing Helper classes in the module I considere the idea to change the default constructor into another one which take Entry object as parameter.The reasons are a lot ..at first EntryHelper take the summary informations by its Entry for each concrete implementation (ListHelper and EntityHelper) why have i to set this component every times? Waiting for your reply.. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-Smartweb-registry--Proposing-changes-to-EntryHelper-tp16945977s17546p16945977.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-28 10:18:21
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Ladies and gentlemans, I'm proud to announce I've finally managed to update the website with all the contents and stuff Anna have collected these days, including an update to the home page layout as suggested. Please give any feedback you can: we wish to continue improving the documentation! Thank you all, Roberto |
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From: Pino C. <gco...@gm...> - 2008-04-27 23:38:41
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Hi Anna, I try to answer quickly to your questions about registry-module. · What supplies the module? This module is a quick solution as well as exclusive for the management, organization and storage of generic <<Entities>> and their <<Addresses>> in a common web application.The module provides hooks to manage duplicated entries through the use of deduplication alghorithms: a simple but efficient one has been already implemented · Can you list the elements of the module? As i describe above, the first element in the registry module is a generic entity whic can be stored with no duplicates into a database system.However ,the module is composed by a list of concrete elements as: Person concrete Entity ,through its properties you can manage a physical Person in your application Business concrete Entity, through its properties you can manage and register a physical Farm in your system Address and its implementation as Fax,Mail,Email,Web,Messanger,Phone related to specific Entity List concrete class which contains a list of Entry and appropriate methods to filter them. EntityHelper which wraps an Entity and provides usefull methods for each address · Can you describe the main features of the module? just do it..see above for more detail :) Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? You'll be able to find it on its documentation section..early amarini wrote: > > Hi all, > could you answer to these few questions to give me the possibility to > develop further documentation on the present modules? > Maybe, everyone of you could expound me the module on which he works more. > Thanks! > > · What supplies the module? > · Can you list the elements of the module? > · Can you describe the main features of the module? > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Features-of-the-modules-tp16850226s17546p16929842.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-25 10:11:16
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I'll not cover the following modules: registry - Pino Contartese should provide it as he is the module leader poll - Salvatore Morrone should be able to describe it to you auth - Stefano Vetrini, as module leader 2008/4/24 amarini <ann...@gm...>: > > Hi all, > could you answer to these few questions to give me the possibility to > develop further documentation on the present modules? > Maybe, everyone of you could expound me the module on which he works more. > Thanks! > > · What supplies the module? > · Can you list the elements of the module? > · Can you describe the main features of the module? > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? > > -- > View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Features-of-the-modules-tp16850226s17546p16850226.html > Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference > Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. > Use priority code J8TL2D2. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone > _______________________________________________ > smartweb-devel mailing list > sma...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartweb-devel > -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-25 10:09:22
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Hi Anna, I'll try to answer on the modules which doesn't already have an official specific maintainer. --- module i18n > · What supplies the module? This module provides support for localization and in it's actual implementation it provides the ability tu customize a string in the database (usually descriptions of some sort) basing on a locale. this should allow to provide different strings to different users for the same business object. The same feature is provided for entire JSPs: you can provide different JSP for different users based on their locale. > · Can you list the elements of the module? The main elements are: a ServletFilter which intercepts locale changes, a RequestProcessor which redirect requests to JSP based on the logged user locale, a LocaleID which represents a composite identifier usable to localize BusinessObjects and a MultilanguageString which allows localized strings. > · Can you describe the main features of the module? They are listed in the first question I suppose. > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? You should find it on the modules documentation. --- module file > · What supplies the module? it will provide (it's not yet alfa quality now) support for file management like a virtual disk storage, allowing to directory browsing, file upload and download. > · Can you list the elements of the module? It contains an UploadForm capable of multipart form handling and few business objects to represent a file system structure (File and Directory) > · Can you describe the main features of the module? The main feature, in addition to which I already mentioned above, is it will provide file upload feedback through AJAX enabled upload progress bar, something like what your browser already provide for download. > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? Not yet available, sorry --- module trace > · What supplies the module? It provides support to track feedbacks: you can insert a link into an email and you will be able to know who have followed the link. > · Can you list the elements of the module? It mainly consists of an Action to capture links clicks and redirect to the correct page with the addition of a couple of BusinessObjects to store tracking informations > · Can you describe the main features of the module? I think I've already presented the features... nothing to add > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? I'll provide something into the module documentation --- module news > · What supplies the module? This module will (actually beta quality) provide the ability to write and display short texts like breaking news and stuff like that > · Can you list the elements of the module? Apart form Actions for news editing and display and business objects to map News, Author and Category it has nothing exceptional > · Can you describe the main features of the module? I wish to include one or more news roller scripts to be used say in home pages to display latest news > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? It's hard to condense in a few lines, I think the module is used in a very basic mode. Other modules I will describe soon are: browse forum mail report shop I'll not describe the shell module as it has been moved to a top level independent project on sourceforge and I'm going to remove it from the smartweb modules at all. Thank you again for your effort. 2008/4/24, amarini <ann...@gm...>: > · What supplies the module? > · Can you list the elements of the module? > · Can you describe the main features of the module? > · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be > used? -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@us...> - 2008-04-24 22:36:36
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Roberto Lo Giacco-4 wrote: > > 2008/3/28, amarini <ann...@gm...>: >> If you agree, I would prepare all the .apt. Someone between you can >> generate >> the new Home Page? :handshake: > > I'll try to give a check to xdoc format later today, in the meanwhile > I wish to suggest you to have a look at the two documents inside the > doc folder: they are obsolete and in italian, but I think they could > provide you some hints anyway. > Well, I've done a first check and I've found the XDOC format is perfect for the task. I'm starting right now to move the index page from APT to XDOC. I think I'll regenerate and update the project and modules website tomorrow. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/How-to-organize-the-Smartweb-User%27s-Guide-tp13427690s17546p16853898.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: amarini <ann...@gm...> - 2008-04-24 12:41:06
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Hi all, could you answer to these few questions to give me the possibility to develop further documentation on the present modules? Maybe, everyone of you could expound me the module on which he works more. Thanks! · What supplies the module? · Can you list the elements of the module? · Can you describe the main features of the module? · Can you add some code lines in order to explain how the module can be used? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Features-of-the-modules-tp16850226s17546p16850226.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-11 11:33:00
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Hi all, I've already spoken with Giuseppe about the lates commit activity and I wish to advice all developers about the commit policy I consider correct, not only on SmartWeb, but on every project. In my opinion whenever you commit you should commit "One Activity". The misunderstanding usually comes on the Activity term. I consider an activity a set of changes to one or more files which are strictly related. As a guideline, changes can be considered related if: - the commit message is the same - a change on one file depends on a change on another file - the changes are related each other by the same issue (in the tracker or in the forum doesn't matter) It is bad habit to: - commit more than one activity together, as you prevent others to rollback a single modification, may be for testing purposes or something else - commit one activity in multiple commits, as you complicate the identification of the modification process. -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Annamaria M. <ann...@gm...> - 2008-04-08 16:03:58
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Perfect Pino, I think you can commit the diagram so I'll pick up and put it into the documentation. Thanks for your readiness :) On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 4:19 PM, Pino Contartese <gco...@gm...> wrote: > > Hy everyone, > correctly..as Roberto said I was working on registry class diagram.. > In these days I was really happy about your activities on mailing list and > the most important speech of smartweb > http://www.nabble.com/file/p16537465/net.smartlab.registry.png > net.smartlab.registry.png :Documentation!! > Thanks Anna for your aggregation spirit..I don't know why but when is a > woman to propose anything > it always better :wistle: .. > So here the diagramm class.. > > Waiting for your consideration and reply about it.. > > Ciao > > |
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From: Gaetano P. <gpe...@sm...> - 2008-04-07 18:55:03
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I try to give some "impartial" answers to your question
1. What is the overall performance of SmartWeb framework as it compares to others?
In my opinion good if application built with Smartweb are properly designed implemented and configured.
SmartWeb based applications is able to take advantage of Hibernate caching and its performance is limited by the underlying JDBC driver / relational database combination. Morover Struts is no slower or faster than any other analogous web-tier framework.
2. How does your framework position itself in relation to Web Beans?
Actually no support for Web Beans and Component Types was provided by SmartWeb but in my opinion, there's not limits to extending the framework in this direction or to developing application with SmartWeb and Web Beans.
3. How easy is it to create a re-useable component in your framework? Is it as easy as sub-classing an existing component?
Re-using pre-existing component is easier (at configuration time). Create re-usable web component is more complex than sub-classing an existing component, more easier then Struts but a bit more complex then JSF frameworks.
4. What is the key differentiating characteristic of your framework that makes it better than the rest?
Devoloping standard, profiled access, web-application is very fast. A designer and coding support ide ( eclipse ) plugin made it still faster.
5. What do you think about the various scopes introduced by Seam, e.g. conversation vs request or session? If you support these additional scopes, do you also provide some sort of concurrency control?
The approch is very intersting : EJB 3.0, AJAX workflow and pageflow integration gives a lot of no cost functionality support but i think that for the application with i work around every day it's like to "shot a fly with an antiaircraft gun" :-)
6. What are you doing to help with developer productivity
Refer to my 4th question answer... ;-)
7. 2008 is a huge year for the mobile web. How do you help developers build great mobile web applications?
At this time mobile web developer couldn't give thanks to me... but i hope we could add soon web mobile application support.
8. If you couldn't use your framework, what would you use and why?
Hibernate, MyFaces / Struts and AJAX: Hibernate gives fast persistence implementation, MyFaces / Struts gives the enough tier separation and web-component re-usability level. AJAX makes WEB GUI more friendly.
9. How do you enable rich Ajax applications?
Very little support at this moment , but one of the next features...i hope...
10. Can a developer make a change to source, and hit RELOAD in the browser to see the change? If not, why not?
Yes he was able...if he configure properly his developing work area...
11. What do you think about the whole Flex revolution, and do you think you are competitors to this technology?
I could think easier to a Flex application as a SmartWeb (server application) client then a competitor
12. How easy is it to create a module and plug it into a bigger application, complete with configuration, code, and view?
Not as complex as it seems...try it to take as true...
----- Original Message -----
From: Annamaria Marini
To: Framework development discussions
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [smartweb-devel] Classes Diagrams
You're right on what I was asking...and whereas you say to ask what I need....as I pursue my purpose to pick up all the material...
can I steal to everyone of you a little bit of his time to answer some question to drive me more deeply into the framework's knowledge through the developer's view?
Take a look to the following twelve questions and take your time to answer...I don't want to hurry you :-P
* What is the overall performance of SmartWeb framework as it compares to others?
* How does your framework position itself in relation to Web Beans?
* How easy is it to create a re-useable component in your framework? Is it as easy as sub-classing an existing component?
* What is the key differentiating characteristic of your framework that makes it better than the rest?
* What do you think about the various scopes introduced by Seam, e.g. conversation vs request or session? If you support these additional scopes, do you also provide some sort of concurrency control?
* What are you doing to help with developer productivity?
* 2008 is a huge year for the mobile web. How do you help developers build great mobile web applications?
* If you couldn't use your framework, what would you use and why?
* How do you enable rich Ajax applications?
* Can a developer make a change to source, and hit RELOAD in the browser to see the change? If not, why not?
* What do you think about the whole Flex revolution, and do you think you are competitors to this technology?
* How easy is it to create a module and plug it into a bigger application, complete with configuration, code, and view?
Thanks to all...
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-07 17:43:11
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I've generated the i18n module overview class diagram... here attached the PNG export 2008/4/4 Annamaria Marini <ann...@gm...>: > Wow, I think it's truly a good beginning, thanks! Don't stop now :) > > Shortly, my purpose is to pick up all the material and therefore I would > integrate and show it according to the various requirements. As an example, > regarding the several modules I have thought it will be useful to have in > the SmartWeb User's Guide a complete but very simple class diagram so that > the user can have a prompt view and can straight understand if that module > can be useful. Instead, in the single modules user's guides I would put more > detailed and deepened images and documents, in order to satisfy the need of > who has already decided for module usefulness. > > For this reason I think I'll put the 'class-diagram.png' in the SmartWeb > User's Guide therefore, to stay in this argument, I'll need not less then > three diagrams according to the three different perspective: persistence, > business, presentation. > > Obviously I'm still waiting for the others one we talked about (registry, > auth....) ;-) > > Let me know if you agree... > > > > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Roberto Lo Giacco <rlo...@sm...> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > 2008/4/3, Gaetano Perrone <gpe...@sm...>: > > > > > > > > > > > smartweb-core class diagram attached > > > > :) It looks like we are competing... > > > > Anyway I've built a class-diagram too in the meanwhile: I suggest to > > let Anna choose the one she thinks better suits the documentation > > needs. > > > > As a guideline I suggest to use eUML2 to produce the diagrams (at > > least the one it can produce) because we have a shared project-wide > > license from Soyatec. > > > > I suggest to locate the diagram source into the doc folder (as it is > > produced for documentation purposes) and the exported image into the > > res/site/images folder. > > > > The diagram I generated is not exaustive as the Gaetano's one. > > > > -- > > Roberto Lo Giacco > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > > just about anything Open Source. > > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > > _______________________________________________ > > smartweb-devel mailing list > > sma...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartweb-devel > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > smartweb-devel mailing list > sma...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartweb-devel > > -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-07 16:52:13
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Hi Anna, I'll try to answer to your question, but I think our developers should answer too to bring you their own impressions. 2008/4/4 Annamaria Marini <ann...@gm...>: > * What is the overall performance of SmartWeb framework as it compares > to others? I think our framework performs pretty well and comparing it to other frameworks it has a reliable scalability which can always be achieved even with other framework, but we already have the code which makes our framework scalable... Obviuosly, as our framework is based on Hibernate and Struts, its performances are comparable to those frameworks performances. > * How easy is it to create a re-useable component in your framework? Is > it as easy as sub-classing an existing component? It could be even easier than you depicted as our modules growing collection can make developing a component very simple: you could be able to find the code you need alredy developed and tested, so the process will simply became the component usage. Anyway, if you can't find what you need alredy in the modules repository, developing a component can be obtained just by inheritance > * What is the key differentiating characteristic of your framework that > makes it better than the rest? In short form: it gives you guidelines on the business level, leveraging what proven frameworks alredy give you. > * What do you think about the various scopes introduced by Seam, e.g. > conversation vs request or session? If you support these additional scopes, > do you also provide some sort of concurrency control? We didn't added other scopes: we stay on the classic level as we think it would be easier for new developers to understand how things works > * What are you doing to help with developer productivity? We give away the code needed to have a clean architecture developing a web application: three tiers, clean code, scalable components. > * 2008 is a huge year for the mobile web. How do you help developers > build great mobile web applications? Making the process easier and cleaner > * If you couldn't use your framework, what would you use and why? I think I'll stay on Struts and Hibernate: they are great, well developed and supported and easy to understand. > * How do you enable rich Ajax applications? We try to reuse what already available on the open source market, avoiding to rewrite already existing code. As a framework we do not want to put any constraint so many AJAX frameworks can be combined with SmartWeb, I already have tested DWR, scriptaculous and mootools. I think many others could be adopted without problems > * Can a developer make a change to source, and hit RELOAD in the browser > to see the change? If not, why not? If the developer choose to deploy an exploded war and the change doesn't impact on the persistence layer the answer is yes, but this happens rarely on early developement phases, often only during last test and maintenance phases. > * What do you think about the whole Flex revolution, and do you think > you are competitors to this technology? I think flex could bring more interactivity to the user interface, but we are not competing with that project. > * How easy is it to create a module and plug it into a bigger > application, complete with configuration, code, and view? As easy as it be with struts, with the addition of the simplified business tier. > Thanks to all... Thanks to you for giving us the opportunity to talk about our work! ;) -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Pino C. <gco...@gm...> - 2008-04-07 14:19:18
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Hy everyone, correctly..as Roberto said I was working on registry class diagram.. In these days I was really happy about your activities on mailing list and the most important speech of smartweb http://www.nabble.com/file/p16537465/net.smartlab.registry.png net.smartlab.registry.png :Documentation!! Thanks Anna for your aggregation spirit..I don't know why but when is a woman to propose anything it always better :wistle: .. So here the diagramm class.. Waiting for your consideration and reply about it.. Ciao Roberto Lo Giacco-4 wrote: > > 2008/4/4 Annamaria Marini <ann...@gm...>: >> Wow, I think it's truly a good beginning, thanks! Don't stop now :) > > Continue to ask us what you need :) > >> Shortly, my purpose is to pick up all the material and therefore I would >> integrate and show it according to the various requirements. As an >> example, >> regarding the several modules I have thought it will be useful to have in >> the SmartWeb User's Guide a complete but very simple class diagram so >> that >> the user can have a prompt view and can straight understand if that >> module >> can be useful. Instead, in the single modules user's guides I would put >> more >> detailed and deepened images and documents, in order to satisfy the need >> of >> who has already decided for module usefulness. > > I agree with the per-module approach and a per-module overview diagram > >> For this reason I think I'll put the 'class-diagram.png' in the SmartWeb >> User's Guide therefore, to stay in this argument, I'll need not less then >> three diagrams according to the three different perspective: persistence, >> business, presentation. > > If I'm not misunderstanding you are asking for three more diagrams on > the core, one for each tier, each one focused on that particular tier. > Am I right? > >> Obviously I'm still waiting for the others one we talked about (registry, >> auth....) ;-) > > I think Giuseppe is already working on the registry module class > diagram and Salvatore on the poll module. I already suggested Stefano > to provide you a work-in-progress diagram but we don't have module > leaders for the others so we need some volunteers... please, be > patient on those "uncovered" modules... > > I wish to thank you very much for your contribution, you blown life > back into the project! > > -- > Roberto Lo Giacco > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > smartweb-devel mailing list > sma...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartweb-devel > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Classes-Diagrams-tp16454589s17546p16537465.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-04 14:23:22
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2008/4/4 Sébastien LE CALLONNEC <sl...@ya...>: > > Geez, these questions sound familiar! :) > -- > Sébastien. My friends, may I introduce you one of the fastest issue manager I ever known? :) Sebastien is a colleague developer on dbunit and those questions come from a link found by him. Welcome Sebastien. -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Sébastien LE C. <sl...@ya...> - 2008-04-04 14:03:37
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Geez, these questions sound familiar! :)
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Sébastien.
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De : Annamaria Marini <ann...@gm...>
À : Framework development discussions <sma...@li...>
Envoyé le : Vendredi, 4 Avril 2008, 13h07mn 02s
Objet : Re: [smartweb-devel] Classes Diagrams
You're right on what I was asking...and whereas you say to ask what I need....as I pursue my purpose to pick up all the material...
can I steal to everyone of you a little bit of his time to answer some question to drive me more deeply into the framework's knowledge through the developer's view?
Take a look to the following twelve questions and take your time to answer...I don't want to hurry you :-P
* What is the overall performance of SmartWeb framework as it compares to others?
* How does your framework position itself in relation to Web Beans?
* How easy is it to create a re-useable component in your framework? Is it as easy as sub-classing an existing component?
* What is the key differentiating characteristic of your framework that makes it better than the rest?
* What do you think about the various scopes introduced by Seam, e.g. conversation vs request or session? If you support these additional scopes, do you also provide some sort of concurrency control?
* What are you doing to help with developer productivity?
* 2008 is a huge year for the mobile web. How do you help developers build great mobile web applications?
* If you couldn't use your framework, what would you use and why?
* How do you enable rich Ajax applications?
* Can a developer make a change to source, and hit RELOAD in the browser to see the change? If not, why not?
* What do you think about the whole Flex revolution, and do you think you are competitors to this technology?
* How easy is it to create a module and plug it into a bigger application, complete with configuration, code, and view?
Thanks to all...
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From: Annamaria M. <ann...@gm...> - 2008-04-04 12:07:10
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You're right on what I was asking...and whereas you say to ask what I
need....as I pursue my purpose to pick up all the material...
can I steal to everyone of you a little bit of his time to answer some
question to drive me more deeply into the framework's knowledge through the
developer's view?
Take a look to the following twelve questions and take your time to
answer...I don't want to hurry you :-P
* What is the overall performance of SmartWeb framework as it compares
to others?
* How does your framework position itself in relation to Web Beans?
* How easy is it to create a re-useable component in your framework? Is
it as easy as sub-classing an existing component?
* What is the key differentiating characteristic of your framework that
makes it better than the rest?
* What do you think about the various scopes introduced by Seam, e.g.
conversation vs request or session? If you support these additional scopes,
do you also provide some sort of concurrency control?
* What are you doing to help with developer productivity?
* 2008 is a huge year for the mobile web. How do you help developers
build great mobile web applications?
* If you couldn't use your framework, what would you use and why?
* How do you enable rich Ajax applications?
* Can a developer make a change to source, and hit RELOAD in the browser
to see the change? If not, why not?
* What do you think about the whole Flex revolution, and do you think
you are competitors to this technology?
* How easy is it to create a module and plug it into a bigger
application, complete with configuration, code, and view?
Thanks to all...
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-04 10:56:31
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2008/4/4 Annamaria Marini <ann...@gm...>: > Wow, I think it's truly a good beginning, thanks! Don't stop now :) Continue to ask us what you need :) > Shortly, my purpose is to pick up all the material and therefore I would > integrate and show it according to the various requirements. As an example, > regarding the several modules I have thought it will be useful to have in > the SmartWeb User's Guide a complete but very simple class diagram so that > the user can have a prompt view and can straight understand if that module > can be useful. Instead, in the single modules user's guides I would put more > detailed and deepened images and documents, in order to satisfy the need of > who has already decided for module usefulness. I agree with the per-module approach and a per-module overview diagram > For this reason I think I'll put the 'class-diagram.png' in the SmartWeb > User's Guide therefore, to stay in this argument, I'll need not less then > three diagrams according to the three different perspective: persistence, > business, presentation. If I'm not misunderstanding you are asking for three more diagrams on the core, one for each tier, each one focused on that particular tier. Am I right? > Obviously I'm still waiting for the others one we talked about (registry, > auth....) ;-) I think Giuseppe is already working on the registry module class diagram and Salvatore on the poll module. I already suggested Stefano to provide you a work-in-progress diagram but we don't have module leaders for the others so we need some volunteers... please, be patient on those "uncovered" modules... I wish to thank you very much for your contribution, you blown life back into the project! -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Annamaria M. <ann...@gm...> - 2008-04-04 10:01:42
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Wow, I think it's truly a good beginning, thanks! Don't stop now :) Shortly, my purpose is to pick up all the material and therefore I would integrate and show it according to the various requirements. As an example, regarding the several modules I have thought it will be useful to have in the SmartWeb User's Guide a complete but very simple class diagram so that the user can have a prompt view and can straight understand if that module can be useful. Instead, in the single modules user's guides I would put more detailed and deepened images and documents, in order to satisfy the need of who has already decided for module usefulness. For this reason I think I'll put the *'class-diagram.png'* in the SmartWeb User's Guide therefore, to stay in this argument, I'll need not less then three diagrams according to the three different perspective: persistence, business, presentation. Obviously I'm still waiting for the others one we talked about (registry, auth....) ;-) Let me know if you agree... On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Roberto Lo Giacco <rlo...@sm...> wrote: > 2008/4/3, Gaetano Perrone <gpe...@sm...>: > > > > > > smartweb-core class diagram attached > > :) It looks like we are competing... > > Anyway I've built a class-diagram too in the meanwhile: I suggest to > let Anna choose the one she thinks better suits the documentation > needs. > > As a guideline I suggest to use eUML2 to produce the diagrams (at > least the one it can produce) because we have a shared project-wide > license from Soyatec. > > I suggest to locate the diagram source into the doc folder (as it is > produced for documentation purposes) and the exported image into the > res/site/images folder. > > The diagram I generated is not exaustive as the Gaetano's one. > > -- > Roberto Lo Giacco > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > smartweb-devel mailing list > sma...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartweb-devel > > |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-03 13:04:39
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2008/3/28, amarini <ann...@gm...>: > If you agree, I would prepare all the .apt. Someone between you can generate > the new Home Page? :handshake: I'll try to give a check to xdoc format later today, in the meanwhile I wish to suggest you to have a look at the two documents inside the doc folder: they are obsolete and in italian, but I think they could provide you some hints anyway. -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Roberto Lo G. <rlo...@sm...> - 2008-04-03 12:57:24
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2008/4/3, Gaetano Perrone <gpe...@sm...>: > > > smartweb-core class diagram attached :) It looks like we are competing... Anyway I've built a class-diagram too in the meanwhile: I suggest to let Anna choose the one she thinks better suits the documentation needs. As a guideline I suggest to use eUML2 to produce the diagrams (at least the one it can produce) because we have a shared project-wide license from Soyatec. I suggest to locate the diagram source into the doc folder (as it is produced for documentation purposes) and the exported image into the res/site/images folder. The diagram I generated is not exaustive as the Gaetano's one. -- Roberto Lo Giacco |
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From: Gaetano P. <gpe...@sm...> - 2008-04-03 12:20:12
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smartweb-core class diagram attached http://www.nabble.com/file/p16467441/smartweb-core-class-diagram.zip smartweb-core-class-diagram.zip Roberto Lo Giacco-4 wrote: > > 2008/4/2, Annamaria Marini <ann...@gm...>: >> Hello everybody, >> >> I'm going on with the reorganization of SmartWeb User's Guide and now, I >> need the classes diagrams of the implemented modules (auth, registry...) >> Does anybody knows if they are adjourned and if they aren't, someone can >> regenerate them? > > Well Anna, I think you could need a class diagram of the core too so I > started preparing it. > > I think Stefano could update the smartweb-auth module class diagram > and Giuseppe the smartweb-registry one. I suggest you ask for a PNG > export of the diagrams so it would be easier for you to use into the > documentation. > > For other modules I hope for volunteers like Salvatore, Gaetano and > any of the fore mentioned developers. > >> I'll wait for news, thanks > > If I correctly understand you are preparing a per-module > introduction... so I suggest you start with the core then move on each > module. > > Thank you! > > -- > Roberto Lo Giacco > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;164216239;13503038;w?http://sf.net/marketplace > _______________________________________________ > smartweb-devel mailing list > sma...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/smartweb-devel > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Classes-Diagrams-tp16454589s17546p16467441.html Sent from the SmartWeb Developers mailing list archive at Nabble.com. |
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