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Re: [Slashcode-general] issues with BorderManager

[info <in...@st...>]

I get similar behavior from BorderManager 3.0 clients except that s/he
requests pix.gif a hundred times plus multiple copies of the other images.
Only when the load starts to increase, the URL gets malformed and a 404
error is generated. We changed the slash 404 page to a simpler one, and it
now handles the load from this client a lot better now.

Are you getting the same multiple request behavior *before* the URLs get
malformed? 

BorderManager3.0 does read-ahead caching. It's sees imbedded images in the
HTML and does not wait for the browser to request them. BorderManager 3.0 or
some installations may not be smart enough to recognize that some images are
requested multiple times in the same page. I don't know. Here's an article
about BorderManager 3.0. Scroll down to "read ahead caching".

http://www.nwconnection.com/oct.98/border08/

-Carl
www.stopworldwar3.com


on 11/19/01 11:32 AM, jesse hirsh at je...@ta... wrote:

> 
> so i was tailing logs the other day and noticed some weird behaviour when
> a client that goes by the name "BorderManager" browses any of my slash
> sites. it seems that this client is part of novell groupware or something,
> and for whatever reason seems to garble the url:
> 
> tor-border.grey.net - - [19/Nov/2001:14:56:57 +0000] "GET
> //neksis.openflows.org/images/pix.gif HTTP/1.0" 404 5211 "-" "Mozilla/4.0
> (compatible; BorderManager 3.0)"
> 
> i.e. instead of requesting /images/pix.gif it goes for the full. this only
> seems to happen with BorderManager 3.0. at first i was ready to just curse
> and write off that particular client, but now i see a fair amount of
> people using it... any thoughts?
> 
> 
> 11:32am  up 25 days, 20:15, 10 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.41, 0.47
> 
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[Slashcode-general] issues with BorderManager

[jesse h. <je...@ta...>]

so i was tailing logs the other day and noticed some weird behaviour when
a client that goes by the name "BorderManager" browses any of my slash
sites. it seems that this client is part of novell groupware or something,
and for whatever reason seems to garble the url:

tor-border.grey.net - - [19/Nov/2001:14:56:57 +0000] "GET
//neksis.openflows.org/images/pix.gif HTTP/1.0" 404 5211 "-" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; BorderManager 3.0)"

i.e. instead of requesting /images/pix.gif it goes for the full. this only
seems to happen with BorderManager 3.0. at first i was ready to just curse
and write off that particular client, but now i see a fair amount of
people using it... any thoughts?


 11:32am  up 25 days, 20:15, 10 users,  load average: 0.45, 0.41, 0.47

Re: [Slashcode-general] autosubmitting stories

[Markus A. <mar...@ub...>]

sla...@i1... wrote:
> I am trying to work with your code, but I am getting an error I didn't expect:
> 
> [root@slash code]# ./test3.pl < ../eudora/___stories_to_autopost.mbx
> Undefined subroutine &main::getSlashConf called at ./test3.pl line 67, <>
> line 1021.
> 
> The relevant line is:
> 
> *I = getSlashConf();

Isn't this Slash 1.0.x syntax whereas you're running 2.x?

Markus.

Re: [Slashcode-general] autosubmitting stories

[barry <sla...@i1...>]

Shane,

I am trying to work with your code, but I am getting an error I didn't expect:

[root@slash code]# ./test3.pl < ../eudora/___stories_to_autopost.mbx
Undefined subroutine &main::getSlashConf called at ./test3.pl line 67, <> 
line 1021.

The relevant line is:

*I = getSlashConf();

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

Barry


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[Slashcode-general] Mod_Adbanners in a Slashbox?

[Jason H. <ja...@ne...>]

I've been trying like hell to get mod_adbanners to display a "banner-ad"
in a "slashbox".

Any suggestions?

-jh

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash and topic graphics

[shane <sh...@lo...>]

At 08:12 PM 11/16/2001 -0500, Nathan Thaler wrote:
>Are there any unusual restrictions on graphics for topics in Slash?  I've 
>only gotten one graphic to show up in the "Edit Topics" section.  All the 
>images I'm working with are jpegs, which are no larger than 90x90 
>pixels.  The images were originally gifs, but I opened them with GIMP and 
>saved them as jpegs.

After you've edit the images, and saved them with new names, make sure that:

1. the filename is lower case.
2. endings are .gif, .jpg or .png
3. after you select them in the drop down, and save the topic, if you want 
them
    to show up right away stop & restart apache.

Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash and topic graphics

[Micah Y. <yo...@ho...>]

On Friday 16 November 2001 08:12 pm, Nathan Thaler wrote:
> Are there any unusual restrictions on graphics for topics in Slash?  I've
> only gotten one graphic to show up in the "Edit Topics" section.  All the
> images I'm working with are jpegs, which are no larger than 90x90
> pixels.  The images were originally gifs, but I opened them with GIMP and
> saved them as jpegs.

What exactly is the filename extension?  Make sure it is .gif or .jpg for 
2.0, or that plus .png for 2.2.  If it's .jpeg or has any caps (.JPG) it will 
miss the files.

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[Slashcode-general] Slash and topic graphics

[Nathan T. <nt...@ha...>]

Are there any unusual restrictions on graphics for topics in Slash?  I've 
only gotten one graphic to show up in the "Edit Topics" section.  All the 
images I'm working with are jpegs, which are no larger than 90x90 
pixels.  The images were originally gifs, but I opened them with GIMP and 
saved them as jpegs.

Thanks,
Nathan Thaler

Re: [Slashcode-general] safe to delete from submissions table after posting?

[Jamie M. <ja...@mc...>]

sla...@i1... (barry) writes:

> >>I noticed all my stories are still in the submissions table,
> >>even though they have been accepted. Is it safe to delete them
> >>en-masse?

Yes.

> >Are they also in the stories table?
> 
> Yes, and they are also in the newstories table.
>
> I would think that stories first go into submissions, then get
> moved to newstories and stories, then they age out of newstories
> at some point. Does it work differently then that?

Well, 2.2 doesn't have a 'newstories' table any more.  And they
don't get "moved" from submissions to stories, so much as copied;
whatever was in submissions, stays.

Submissions are never actually deleted, just marked so they don't
show up in the bin.  This has proved useful on Slashdot since we
can go in and search for old submissions when the need arises
(though not often enough that we've felt the need to provide a
web-based search).

Delete old submissions when you feel like it :)
--
 Jamie McCarthy
 ja...@mc...

Re: [Slashcode-general] Current 2.2 glitches

[Jamie M. <ja...@mc...>]

yo...@ho... (Micah Yoder) writes:

> 2. Mailbombing of site stats and daily headlines.  Happened on
> both of my sites that are on 2.2.  I realized that slashd was
> running in PST, not UTC. Changed that just now.  Am wondering if
> that was the problem.  Slashd.log complained about the time when
> it was running adminmail, saying:

> Thu Nov 15 23:07:46 2001 error: entry_time in the past, check TZ
> (1005919620 < 1005923266) adminmail.pl 7 6 * * * none

You'll probably also see a warning in the log from when slashd
started up:

  if ($ENV{TZ} ne 'GMT') {
      slashdLog(join(" ",
          "Note: \$ENV{TZ}='$ENV{TZ}' not GMT, this may cause",
          "'entry_time in the past' errors; did you not start",
          "slashd with the init script?"
      ));
  }
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Re: [Slashcode-general] Questions

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 11:54 -0500 2001.11.15, Paul Stewart wrote:
>-handle well under fairly heavy loading (500,000 pageviews daily
>estimated)

Slashdot gets a lot more than that.

>-output static content to reduce loading on server (publish static html
>pages)

Yes.

>-run with a backend MySQL database for speed/effeciency

Yes.

>-Apache/Redhat Linux configuration

Yes.

>-support a large number of articles (200-300 submissions daily)

Yes.

>-searchable articles option

Yes.

>-archive of older articles (still reachable by readers if need be
>though)

Yes.

>-option to include photographs (autogenerated thumbnail / full size
>link)

Someone's written a plugin for this, I think.  If not, it wouldn't be hard
to extend Slash to do it.  You could probably even hire someone off the
list to do it in a day or three.  :)

>-multiple categories with main page "headline news" section

Yes.

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Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash documentation

[Chris N. <pu...@po...>]

At 01:24 -0500 2001.11.16, Micah Yoder wrote:
>Not to critisize, but more documentation for Slash would be great.

Yep.


>Better yet, I think we (the users of Slash) should be doing it.  Let the paid
>folks keep coding. :-)

Yep.


>This needn't be hard.  When we go through the code and figure something out,
>just write it down somewhere.  An organized repository would be nice.  I may
>be able to set something up.

What I would like to see first is an outline of the documentation.  An
outline for the API would be fairly easy.  An outline for user/admin docs
would be a lot harder.  But it would make compiling and extending the
documentation you're collecting a lot easier.


>It should include readable discussions of the code, explaining the APIs, how
>to write plugins, all the troubleshooting tips we can come up with.  That
>sort of stuff.

There is a Slash book coming out, from O'Reilly.  I don't know the due
date, but it is in production.  It is short on API, but long on many other
things, and includes how to write plugins, etc.  I'd recommend that if you
really want to do this, start with the API, then when the book comes out,
have the user/admin/troubleshooting docs extend what the book doesn't
already have.

My three cents,

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Re: [Slashcode-general] safe to delete from submissions table after posting?

[barry <sla...@i1...>]

At 06:53 AM 11/16/2001 -0500, you wrote:
>At 06:31 PM 11/15/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>>I noticed all my stories are still in the submissions table, even though 
>>they have been accepted. Is it safe to delete them en-masse?
>
>Are they also in the stories table?

Yes, and they are also in the newstories table.


I would think that stories first go into submissions, then get moved to 
newstories and stories, then they age out of newstories at some point. Does 
it work differently then that?


Barry

Re: [Slashcode-general] Topics and sections???

[Brian A. <br...@ta...>]

On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 13:20, Micah Yoder wrote:
> The topic editor in 2.2 now lets you tell which sections a topic belongs to.  
> What is that supposed to do?  Can't you still use any topic in any section?  
> Or what's the deal with those?
When you edit the topic mark it for all of the sections you want to
be able to use it.
Here is the thing, on sites with a lot of topics, the menu to select
topics become a bit of a nightmare. This allows you to keep
things seperate. Also, on sites that have multiple sections
working in isolation this keeps things nice and clean.
For example:
http://software.tangent.org/submit.pl
and 
http://www.tangent.org/submit.pl

Exact same accounts, exact same database. www happens to be an
isolated section (how I do this is a little on the undocumented
side, for those who know about the DB hack I used to use, I am
no longer having to do even it). If you look at the submit's
pulldown you can see how only topics which are particular to
that site are found.
BTW all three sites that share that db, (www,software, media) all
have their own Apache instance. So this does eat up some memory.
Somewhere in the back of my mind I actually have a solution
for this. 
At the moment it doesn't bother me though. That machine is
running 7 or so slashsites without any issues.
	-Brian
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Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash documentation

[Rob \CmdrTaco\ M. <ma...@sl...>]

On Friday 16 November 2001 01:24 am, Micah Yoder wrote:
> Not to critisize, but more documentation for Slash would be great.
>
> Better yet, I think we (the users of Slash) should be doing it.  Let the
> paid folks keep coding. :-)

Hazah!

Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash documentation

[Eric D. <eri...@ja...>]

Yes yes! A repository for slash documentation would be great!

Micah Yoder wrote:

>Not to critisize, but more documentation for Slash would be great.
>
>Better yet, I think we (the users of Slash) should be doing it.  Let the paid 
>folks keep coding. :-)
>
>This needn't be hard.  When we go through the code and figure something out, 
>just write it down somewhere.  An organized repository would be nice.  I may 
>be able to set something up.
>
>The good thing is that the Slash code is fairly easy to read.  (Thanks guys!)
>
>It should include readable discussions of the code, explaining the APIs, how 
>to write plugins, all the troubleshooting tips we can come up with.  That 
>sort of stuff.
>
>Any thoughts?
>

Re: [Slashcode-general] Slash documentation

[Bruno P. <br...@po...>]

On Fri 16-Nov-2001 at 01:24:14AM -0500, Micah Yoder wrote:
> Not to critisize, but more documentation for Slash would be great.
> 
> Better yet, I think we (the users of Slash) should be doing it.

> This needn't be hard.  When we go through the code and figure
> something out, just write it down somewhere.  An organized repository
> would be nice.  I may be able to set something up.

Myself, I would be happy to see material like that posted here where I
can find it.

It would push the signal:noise ratio in the right direction and
slashcode-general isn't very busy anyway.

-- 
Bruno

Re: [Slashcode-general] Current 2.2 glitches

[Micah Y. <yo...@ho...>]

Alessio's suggestion fixed #1 AND #3!  Now my only big issue is the 
mailbombing...


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Re: [Slashcode-general] Current 2.2 glitches

[Micah Y. <yo...@ho...>]

> With 2.2, topics belong to a section, and the behaviour of
> standalone/part of site sections is different than in previous versions.
>
> I have yet to completely understand how all of this works, but I suggest
> you have a look at it. For example, did you put your new topic in the
> 'Articles' section?

Good grief.  Looks like you're right.  I just selectd one topic and checked 
all the sections, and now it appears on the list!

So you have to select each section that a topic can appear in!!?  That kinda 
sucks.  I want all topics to be able to be in any section.


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Re: [Slashcode-general] Current 2.2 glitches

[Alessio B. <al...@al...>]

Micah Yoder wrote:

> 1. I added a whole long list of topics to a site.  They show up in the
> topics.pl page and the search dropdown and in admin.  But not in the story
> submission dropdown, which only lists Linux/News/Slash/Journal (I deleted
> Slashdot, and it is indeed missing from that list).

With 2.2, topics belong to a section, and the behaviour of
standalone/part of site sections is different than in previous versions.

I have yet to completely understand how all of this works, but I suggest
you have a look at it. For example, did you put your new topic in the
'Articles' section?

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[Slashcode-general] Slash documentation

[Micah Y. <yo...@ho...>]

Not to critisize, but more documentation for Slash would be great.

Better yet, I think we (the users of Slash) should be doing it.  Let the paid 
folks keep coding. :-)

This needn't be hard.  When we go through the code and figure something out, 
just write it down somewhere.  An organized repository would be nice.  I may 
be able to set something up.

The good thing is that the Slash code is fairly easy to read.  (Thanks guys!)

It should include readable discussions of the code, explaining the APIs, how 
to write plugins, all the troubleshooting tips we can come up with.  That 
sort of stuff.

Any thoughts?

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[Slashcode-general] Current 2.2 glitches

[Micah Y. <yo...@ho...>]

1. I added a whole long list of topics to a site.  They show up in the 
topics.pl page and the search dropdown and in admin.  But not in the story 
submission dropdown, which only lists Linux/News/Slash/Journal (I deleted 
Slashdot, and it is indeed missing from that list).

2. Mailbombing of site stats and daily headlines.  Happened on both of my 
sites that are on 2.2.  I realized that slashd was running in PST, not UTC.  
Changed that just now.  Am wondering if that was the problem.  Slashd.log 
complained about the time when it was running adminmail, saying:

005923263) adminmail.pl 7 6 * * * none
Thu Nov 15 23:07:43 2001 adminmail.pl end (1.11s; adminmail.pl 1005923263s 
late)Thu Nov 15 23:07:45 2001 adminmail.pl begin
Thu Nov 15 23:07:45 2001 Send Admin Mail Begin
Thu Nov 15 23:07:46 2001 Send Admin Mail End
Thu Nov 15 23:07:46 2001 error: entry_time in the past, check TZ (1005919620 
< 1005923266) adminmail.pl 7 6 * * * none

dunno if that has anything to do with it.  We'll see tomorrow now that it's 
correctly running in UTC.

3. When submitting a story and clicking Preview, the topics drop-down is 
completely gone!  Nothing there.  It has the section pulldown though.  After 
clicking Submit, it then says it submitted, but the commit fails due to an 
SQL error, topic ID cannot be null.  Well obviously....  but why isn't the 
topic list showing up???  None of the submit templates were modified.  This 
is only happening on one site, the other is fine.

I'm gonna hit the code to try to figure this out, but if anyone has ideas I'd 
appreciate it!

Thanks,
Micah


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[Slashcode-general] safe to delete from submissions table after posting?

[barry <sla...@i1...>]

I noticed all my stories are still in the submissions table, even though 
they have been accepted. Is it safe to delete them en-masse?


Thanks!

Barry

[Slashcode-general] Topics and sections???

[Micah Y. <yo...@ho...>]

Hi,

The topic editor in 2.2 now lets you tell which sections a topic belongs to.  
What is that supposed to do?  Can't you still use any topic in any section?  
Or what's the deal with those?

Thanks,
Micah

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Re: [Slashcode-general] autosubmitting stories

[barry <sla...@i1...>]

I figured out my problem before I pulled all my hair out- the test Perl 
program was trying to write to a user home directory with insufficient 
permissions.

Thanks for the help!

Barry
At 04:44 PM 11/15/2001 -0500, Eloy A. Paris wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 15, 2001 at 11:23:35AM -0800, barry wrote:
>
> > In /etc/I made a link:
> > [root@slash smrsh]# ls -al
> > total 8
> > drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Nov 15 10:55 .
> > drwxr-xr-x   40 root     root         4096 Nov 15 10:24 ..
> > lrwxrwxrwx    1 root     root           37 Nov 15 10:55 test3.pl ->
> > /home/barry/autoprocess/code/test3.pl
>
>I am sorry, my bad, I see you did create the symlink.