Re: [Slashcode-development] RFC for Open Story Submission Queueplugin

[Eric D. <eri...@ja...>]

elijah wright wrote:

> what i really had in mind wrt nntp was the ability to accept story
> submissions via newsgroup crossposting.  basically, to make it really easy
> to tie a web frontend to a newsgroup and have selected things migrate out
> of the NNTP backend and into the mysql||postgres db.  it might be just as
> productive if someone wrote an NNTP+LDAP backend to run alongside slash...
> but i'm not volunteering for that :)
>

Yeah, I don't know about that. Kinda seems redundant in my opinion. I really would not
like to see my slash site spammed with all that Usenet crap that gets posted (IE: Porn
and stuff)

> thanks.  next clarification:  i'd like to have the administratievly
> overridden entries stashed somewhere that the users can still get at them
> if they want.  obviously there's likely to be a huge mess of such posts;
> perhaps use a configurable threshold of space wasted by natalie portman
> and grits posts?  10mb or 2500 posts sound like a reasonable backlog?  or
> is that too much?  (10MB is peanuts these days, imho...)  it'll take a
> hell of a long time before anyone comes close to that with a smallish site
> :)

Do you mean like filtering out comments by certain posters? Is that what your getting
at? That might be an idea, or perhaps being able to filter out Trolls and stuff would
be good too. Of course, that would only be available for articles that haven't been
dumped out of the database yet (IE: still able to comment on).

I know there are times I'd like to filter out some of the crap in comments to get to
the meat. Like a lot of the stuff on Slashdot lately has been unrelated to the
articles, especially the 20-30 first post people......

> well, botted posts hit kuro5hin pretty hard last summer.  that was sad.
>
> if story-moderations are not random-selection based (like the slashdot
> comment modding) then there needs to be a facility to make sure that an
> individual doesn't multiply moderate the story in the queue.  i personally
> think it'd be pretty cool to be able to go to the story queue page, see
> what's there (as a logged in user, probably) and then vote up everything i
> thought was worth seeing.
>
> another brief idea- maybe story moderation is something that some admins
> might want to restrict to either logged in users or a subset
> usergroup.  that probably needs to be settable with little
> trouble.  slashdot, having an established troll community, probably
> wouldn't be able to do mass-open-moderation on its story queue.  other
> sites might, though.
>
> authenticated users should always be weighted more heavily than anonymous
> users, imho.  maybe that threshold needs to be an algorithm with a tunable
> constant for teh difference.  set it to zero to turn it off, perhaps?
>
> how about a moderate-up-a-random-story button that selects from the
> stories with at least minimum_number of positive votes? :)
>

Yeah, well, I kinda like the idea of the stories I see are "human" approved. Kind of
organizes the discussions.

I'm a little confused as to why you'd want that........seems a lot of work for
something that might not really be all that useful.......

> i think that's a really cool idea.  and i appreciate your positive
> feedback on my ranting from earlier this afternoon :)  i really like
> slashdot but i need it to do some more stuff....  *grin*  i eventually
> want to use it as a discussion forum for my students, but it needs a bit
> more fine-grained tuning before it'll serve as i like :)
>

Well, when this "Bender" thing is more stable I'd love to add some stuff to it, but
right now........I'm scared. I like my 1.0.9 setup, and I've tweaked it, and am going
to tweak it a little more to do the submission thing I mentioned.

> is that extra data stuff something that could be done template-style?

I don't think so. Doesn't look like it. It seems fairly easy to do. I just need to sit
down and do it.........

> is there a forum where people post things they'd eventually like to see a
> slash-like system do?  i occasionally have a wacky plugin idea or
> something and it'd be nice to be able to do something with it other than
> just sit on it and hope i get un-busy eventually..

Perhaps someone should write a PLUGIN WISH LIST or something on slashcode so people
can write what they'd like to see Bender do.........