#2473 Threshold applied before bonuses?

[Quietust]

My current 'Comments' settings for score bonuses are
as follows:

Threshold: 2
Highlight Threshold: 3
Hard Thresholds - checked
Reparent Highly Rated Comments - checked

Reason Modifier: all 0
People Modifier: all 0
Anonymous modifier: 0
Karma Bonus: +1
Subscriber Bonus: 0
New User Bonus: 1%, 0
Small/Large Comment Bonus: 0, 0
No Karma Bonus - unchecked

When I view a discussion, the amount of comments that
appear do NOT match the number on the front page (i.e.
if it says "20 of 36 comments", it shows "2: 13
comments" in the threshold combobox). If I temporarily
lower my threshold (i.e. to 1, 0, or -1), then I see 'Score:
2' comments which did not appear previously (adding up
to the number of comments above threshold originally
reported on the front page).

[Jamie McCarthy]

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The important thing is that bonus be calculated before we
apply the threshold to decide whether a comment is
displayed. If this is just about the popup menu with its
count of comments, my thinking is that that doesn't need to
be absolutely precise and we shouldn't waste too much time
on it... but that's just me...

[Quietust]

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The dropdown box is only a small part of the problem; as it is,
I never see +2-from-karma-bonus posts unless I drop my
threshold to 1.

[Michael Torrie]

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From what I can see, any comments that are rated at or above
your threshhold but are replies to a comment that is below
your threshold, they do not display at all. This could be a
preference to some people. Me personally I would like to
see all the comments that are at or above my threshold,
regardless of whether or not I can see the parent comment
(since I view in flat mode).

Perhaps this observation is wrong it actually is a karma-add
problem, but this is how the problem appears to me.

[Bob Bell]

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I believe I am seeing this problem, and if I am, I
definitely think it is worthy of fixing. An example of what
I see:
Slashdot story "AT&T Moves Toward Mail-Server Whitelist"
lists "16 of 351 comments". When I click on the "16" and go
to the story page (sid=03/10/22/0130216), the threshold
dropdown reads only "4: 13 comments", seemingly implying
that I am missing some. (Note: I am also reading at "Flat"
and "Oldest First"). Furthermore, only 7 comments are
actually displayed (all with score 5), indicating more
"missing" messages. Additional, the drop-down box reads:
-1: 13 comments
0: 13 comments
1: 13 comments
2: 13 comments
3: 13 comments
4: 13 comments
5: 12 comments

If I drop my threshold to "3", I get the following behavior.
The drop-down box now displays:
-1: 22 comments
0: 22 comments
1: 22 comments
2: 22 comments
3: 22 comments
4: 16 comments
5: 12 comments
And actually, only 18 comments are displayed, with scores 3,
4 and 5 (note that it is now display some comments with
scores of 4 that I didn't get with my threshold of 4).

I can think of several reasons why this behavior should be
considered broken:
(1) It is either hiding comments that I want to see, or at
least making me think it is hiding comments that I have said
that I want to see
(2) It makes the comment count in the "Threshold" drop-down
worthless. I'd like to use that to browse at a high
threshold, and quickly check to see how many messages I
would get if I lowered my threshold. I can't do that with
this broken behavior.
(3) Having such obviously off comment counts results in a
very negative user opinion (I know because I've been
thinking "I can't believe how screwed up Slashdot is"!)
(4) To my knowledge, there is no good workaround (please let
me know if there is)

My settings:
Display Mode: Flat
Sort Order: Oldest First
Threshold: 4: Score +4
Highlist Threshold: 2: Score +2
Hard Thresholds: checked
Reparent Highly Rated Comments: checked
Do Not Display Scores: not checked
Karma modifier: +1
Small Comment Penalty: 25, -1
(All other modifiers at 0)