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Hallo,

I=B4m working with a Linux-SuSE-8.2-i586 system.
Now I=B4ve downloaded your perl-bp-0.7-3.src.rpm and tried to build a
bin-rpm with
  rpm -bb bp.spec
so that I can easily install and deinstall the package with the rpm-manag=
er.

1. The rpm program runs through the spec file, but doesn=B4t write an
arch.rpm  ??

2. So I had a look at the bp.spec file, and I found, that the line
%define bp_lib_dir %(eval "`perl -V:vendorlib_stem`"; \
echo $vendorlib_stem)
does not work with the SuSE-8.2.

Do you have any ideas?
Thank you very much in advance.

bernhard

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perl -V does show the following:

Summary of my perl5 (revision 5.0 version 8 subversion 0) configuration:
  Platform:
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    uname=3D'linux d20 2.4.20 #1 smp thu oct 10 18:10:26 utc 2002 i686
unknown unk
nown gnulinux '
    config_args=3D'-ds -e -Dprefix=3D/usr -Dusethreads -Di_db -Di_dbm
-Di_ndbm -Di_g
dbm -Duseshrplib=3Dtrue'
    hint=3Drecommended, useposix=3Dtrue, d_sigaction=3Ddefine
    usethreads=3Ddefine use5005threads=3Dundef useithreads=3Ddefine
usemultiplicity=3Dde
fine
    useperlio=3Ddefine d_sfio=3Dundef uselargefiles=3Ddefine usesocks=3Du=
ndef
    use64bitint=3Dundef use64bitall=3Dundef uselongdouble=3Dundef
    usemymalloc=3Dn, bincompat5005=3Dundef
  Compiler:
    cc=3D'cc', ccflags =3D'-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasin=
g
-D_LARGEF
ILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=3D64',
    optimize=3D'-O3 --pipe',
    cppflags=3D'-D_REENTRANT -D_GNU_SOURCE -fno-strict-aliasing'
    ccversion=3D'', gccversion=3D'3.3 20030226 (prerelease) (SuSE Linux)'=
,
gccosandv
ers=3D''
    intsize=3D4, longsize=3D4, ptrsize=3D4, doublesize=3D8, byteorder=3D1=
234
    d_longlong=3Ddefine, longlongsize=3D8, d_longdbl=3Ddefine, longdblsiz=
e=3D12
    ivtype=3D'long', ivsize=3D4, nvtype=3D'double', nvsize=3D8, Off_t=3D'=
off_t',
lseeksize
=3D8
    alignbytes=3D4, prototype=3Ddefine
  Linker and Libraries:
    ld=3D'cc', ldflags =3D''
    libpth=3D/lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib
    libs=3D-lnsl -ldl -lm -lpthread -lc -lcrypt -lutil
    perllibs=3D-lnsl -ldl -lm -lpthread -lc -lcrypt -lutil
    libc=3D, so=3Dso, useshrplib=3Dtrue, libperl=3Dlibperl.so
    gnulibc_version=3D'2.3.2'
  Dynamic Linking:
    dlsrc=3Ddl_dlopen.xs, dlext=3Dso, d_dlsymun=3Dundef, ccdlflags=3D'-rd=
ynamic
-Wl,-rpa
th,/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi/CORE'
    cccdlflags=3D'-fPIC', lddlflags=3D'-shared'

Characteristics of this binary (from libperl):
  Compile-time options: MULTIPLICITY USE_ITHREADS USE_LARGE_FILES
PERL_IMPLICIT_                                             CONTEXT
  Built under linux
  Compiled at Mar 13 2003 22:22:34
  @INC:
    /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i586-linux-thread-multi
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0
    /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl
    .

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Dana,

I was wondering if you had gotten around to looking at licenses.  Sorry 
to be a nudge, but several people have asked me about the perl-bp 
license lately.  Also, we are getting a lot of downloads of the perl-bp 
rpms so there is definitely interest.  BSD or GPL are both totally 
acceptable.  

Thanks,
David Kaplan

Dana Jacobsen wrote:

>"David M. Kaplan" wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi Dana,
>>
>>My name is David Kaplan and I am one of the people working on sixpack, a
>>bibliographic system that uses perl-bp as its base.  For a while, we
>>have been wanting to expand its powers, but one of the hindrances to
>>bringing in programmers to develop it is that perl-bp is not publicly
>>licensed.  People are afraid to put work into something that they might
>>not legally be able to modify.
>>    
>>
>
>Hello David.  I'm sorry for the long delays in replying.  It was my intention
>when creating bp for it to be a free tool.  Unfortunately my job and family has
>made it impossible for me to keep working on bp.  I'm a bit sad about that
>because I never really got it distributed in the perl repositories.
> 
>  
>
>>I was wondering if you would be willing to change the license of perl-bp
>>to public (preferrably GPL as sixpack itself is GPL).  I think an email
>>to that effect would be sufficient, but changing the actual license in
>>the files would be even better.  We would also be willing to make any
>>changes you directed us to make to the files.  The copyright would of
>>course continue to be in your name and we would always acknowledge your
>>efforts.
>>    
>>
>
>I will have to look into the various licensing agreements.  I will try to get to
>this soon and run it by you -- I want to make sure your needs are met. It would
>be my intention to allow anyone to make changes as necessary and redistribute
>them.  I was leaning more toward a BSD license, but I'll look into the GPL
>again.
>--
>Dana Jacobsen
>da...@ac...
>
>  
>

"David M. Kaplan" wrote:
> 
> Hi Dana,
> 
> My name is David Kaplan and I am one of the people working on sixpack, a
> bibliographic system that uses perl-bp as its base.  For a while, we
> have been wanting to expand its powers, but one of the hindrances to
> bringing in programmers to develop it is that perl-bp is not publicly
> licensed.  People are afraid to put work into something that they might
> not legally be able to modify.

Hello David.  I'm sorry for the long delays in replying.  It was my intention
when creating bp for it to be a free tool.  Unfortunately my job and family has
made it impossible for me to keep working on bp.  I'm a bit sad about that
because I never really got it distributed in the perl repositories.

> I was wondering if you would be willing to change the license of perl-bp
> to public (preferrably GPL as sixpack itself is GPL).  I think an email
> to that effect would be sufficient, but changing the actual license in
> the files would be even better.  We would also be willing to make any
> changes you directed us to make to the files.  The copyright would of
> course continue to be in your name and we would always acknowledge your
> efforts.

I will have to look into the various licensing agreements.  I will try to get to
this soon and run it by you -- I want to make sure your needs are met. It would
be my intention to allow anyone to make changes as necessary and redistribute
them.  I was leaning more toward a BSD license, but I'll look into the GPL
again.
--
Dana Jacobsen
da...@ac...

Hi Dana,

My name is David Kaplan and I am one of the people working on sixpack, a 
bibliographic system that uses perl-bp as its base.  For a while, we 
have been wanting to expand its powers, but one of the hindrances to 
bringing in programmers to develop it is that perl-bp is not publicly 
licensed.  People are afraid to put work into something that they might 
not legally be able to modify.

I was wondering if you would be willing to change the license of perl-bp 
to public (preferrably GPL as sixpack itself is GPL).  I think an email 
to that effect would be sufficient, but changing the actual license in 
the files would be even better.  We would also be willing to make any 
changes you directed us to make to the files.  The copyright would of 
course continue to be in your name and we would always acknowledge your 
efforts.

Thanks for the help and hope to hear from you soon.

David Kaplan

Pat,

We have tried to contact him, but havent been able to get in touch with 
him.  To avoid problems, we have placed new or replacement modules in a 
separate directory.  I don't think the problem is that serious, but it 
would be nice to resolve it.

David

Dumas Patrice wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I am very interested in bp/sixpack. I figured out that development is done
>(in cvs) in sixpack2, thus I refer to files in that dir only.
>
>The trouble I have is that it seems to me that the files coming from bp
>are not under a free software licence. I quote:
>
># Permission is given to use and distribute this package without charge.
>
>It is not permitted to modify these files. It implies that one should not
>use code from these files to make its own code, and do from scratch
>without looking prior at the bp code.
>
>I am rather uncomfortable with this licence. Did somebody try to contact
>Dana Jacobsen and ask him to relicence his files under a free software 
>licence ?
>
>Pat
>
>  
>

Hi,

I am very interested in bp/sixpack. I figured out that development is done
(in cvs) in sixpack2, thus I refer to files in that dir only.

The trouble I have is that it seems to me that the files coming from bp
are not under a free software licence. I quote:

# Permission is given to use and distribute this package without charge.

It is not permitted to modify these files. It implies that one should not
use code from these files to make its own code, and do from scratch
without looking prior at the bp code.

I am rather uncomfortable with this licence. Did somebody try to contact
Dana Jacobsen and ask him to relicence his files under a free software 
licence ?

Pat

Hi,

I don't really have any experience with Perl and am in the happy position
of dumping windows for Linux. I am getting familiar with LaTeX and now
want to move my endnote libraries to bibtex (in other words I'm still a
bit of a newbie).

I have downloaded sixpack-0.99.010831.tar.gz and generally love it. I had
a couple of problems installing (one was an extra backslash on line 79 of
the install script, the other was not being able to get the .pl files on
the right path, so I dumped them in a dir that was already on the path and
it now loads).

There's one problem I haven't been able to work around yet: when I try to
import an endnote file I get:

sh: /home/dave/tmp/dave-file.log: Permission denied

Now, this is my tmp directory and I have permission to what I want. I even
get this message if I run bib -gui as root.

[BTW, I exported the endnote file using refer.ens]

Can anybody point me in the right direction to fix this?

Thanks,

Dave.

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Adult Morbidity and Mortality Project (AMMP)
Box 65243
Dar es Salaam
Tanzania

Email: dav...@nc...
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