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[simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Carlos A. N. <car...@gm...> - 2010-11-11 20:23:24

I'm not very familiar with the code, so with a light analysis the only
method i see to figure out a player's position (for example) is by
'parsing' the messages from the server, and applying the geometric
transformations myself in order to find their current position. Is
there a easier way to do this ?

Thanks

Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Hedayat V. <hed...@gm...> - 2010-11-11 20:30:31

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Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Carlos A. N. <car...@gm...> - 2010-11-12 15:59:53

:S

Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-11-12 13:32:40

As far as I know you have three options.

1. Process the regular messages sent to an agent via it's vision perceptor.  
2. Set (setSenseMyPos true) in naoneckhead.rsg file to include agent location 
data in data sent from the vision perceptor.
3. Connect to the monitor port and process those messages as well.

Option 1 is the only valid method allowed during a competition.  Options 2 and 3 
are useful for debugging and training/machine learning scenarios.

As an aside, the TinMan library for .NET (C#, etc) provides support for all 
three of these options via the API without having to decode any messages 
yourself.  If you're working with a different language you could use the source 
code as a reference.

Drew.



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From: Carlos Alberto Nunes <car...@gm...>
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Sent: Thu, 11 November, 2010 20:23:17
Subject: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's 
current position

I'm not very familiar with the code, so with a light analysis the only
method i see to figure out a player's position (for example) is by
'parsing' the messages from the server, and applying the geometric
transformations myself in order to find their current position. Is
there a easier way to do this ?

Thanks

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Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Carlos A. N. <car...@gm...> - 2010-11-12 15:58:48

I'm just working on the monitor, although i guess i could add agent
just to extract the players' and the ball's current position, it seems
a bit overkill (and it wouldn't work on log input mode).
I'll check out the library.

Thanks for the reply :)
Carlos

Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-11-12 16:10:23

I apologise.  I didn't notice the reference to rcssmonitor3d in the subject 
line!

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From: Carlos Alberto Nunes <car...@gm...>
To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
Cc: sim...@li...
Sent: Fri, 12 November, 2010 15:58:42
Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's 
current position

I'm just working on the monitor, although i guess i could add agent
just to extract the players' and the ball's current position, it seems
a bit overkill (and it wouldn't work on log input mode).
I'll check out the library.

Thanks for the reply :)
Carlos

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Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Hedayat V. <hed...@gm...> - 2010-11-12 18:33:33

Oops! I do too! I was just thinking in an agent-writing point of view 
(for competitions). As noted by Drew, if you are working on a monitor 
you'll receive the position of players and balls in the monitor info.



/*Drew Noakes <dre...@ya...>*/ wrote on 11/12/2010 7:40:13 PM 
+0350:
> I apologise.  I didn't notice the reference to rcssmonitor3d in the 
> subject line!
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Carlos Alberto Nunes <car...@gm...>
> *To:* Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
> *Cc:* sim...@li...
> *Sent:* Fri, 12 November, 2010 15:58:42
> *Subject:* Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the 
> players' and ball's current position
>
> I'm just working on the monitor, although i guess i could add agent
> just to extract the players' and the ball's current position, it seems
> a bit overkill (and it wouldn't work on log input mode).
> I'll check out the library.
>
> Thanks for the reply :)
> Carlos
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Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Carlos A. N. <car...@gm...> - 2010-11-15 15:01:43

How do i access it ?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@gm...> wrote:
> Oops! I do too! I was just thinking in an agent-writing point of view (for
> competitions). As noted by Drew, if you are working on a monitor you'll
> receive the position of players and balls in the monitor info.
>
>
>
> Drew Noakes <dre...@ya...> wrote on 11/12/2010 7:40:13 PM +0350:
>
> I apologise.  I didn't notice the reference to rcssmonitor3d in the subject
> line!
> ________________________________
> From: Carlos Alberto Nunes <car...@gm...>
> To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
> Cc: sim...@li...
> Sent: Fri, 12 November, 2010 15:58:42
> Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and
> ball's current position
>
> I'm just working on the monitor, although i guess i could add agent
> just to extract the players' and the ball's current position, it seems
> a bit overkill (and it wouldn't work on log input mode).
> I'll check out the library.
>
> Thanks for the reply :)
> Carlos
>
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Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's current position

From: Drew N. <dre...@ya...> - 2010-11-16 11:40:46

At the lowest level, you must parse the messages from the server.  They're not 
too complex.  Alternatively use an existing library if you like the object 
model, though most are geared towards dealing with the agent protocol rather 
than the monitor protocol.

Documentation of the protocol is available here:

http://simspark.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Network_Protocol

Feel free to improve the documentation if you find anything unclear or 
incorrect.  It should be enough to get you going though.



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From: Carlos Alberto Nunes <car...@gm...>
To: Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@gm...>
Cc: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>; Drew Noakes <dre...@ya...>; 
sim...@li...
Sent: Mon, 15 November, 2010 15:01:33
Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and ball's 
current position

How do i access it ?

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah <hed...@gm...> wrote:
> Oops! I do too! I was just thinking in an agent-writing point of view (for
> competitions). As noted by Drew, if you are working on a monitor you'll
> receive the position of players and balls in the monitor info.
>
>
>
> Drew Noakes <dre...@ya...> wrote on 11/12/2010 7:40:13 PM +0350:
>
> I apologise.  I didn't notice the reference to rcssmonitor3d in the subject
> line!
> ________________________________
> From: Carlos Alberto Nunes <car...@gm...>
> To: Drew Noakes <dr...@dr...>
> Cc: sim...@li...
> Sent: Fri, 12 November, 2010 15:58:42
> Subject: Re: [simspark-devel] [rcssmonitor3d] Extracting the players' and
> ball's current position
>
> I'm just working on the monitor, although i guess i could add agent
> just to extract the players' and the ball's current position, it seems
> a bit overkill (and it wouldn't work on log input mode).
> I'll check out the library.
>
> Thanks for the reply :)
> Carlos
>
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