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Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?

[Niall G. <gal...@ya...>]

Hi,=0A=0AI have written a signalling framework which will be used in Simple=
 so send signals to all threads and processes within the server when someth=
ing happens. For instance a shutdown signal will be distributed to all thre=
ads to allow them to shutdown cleanly. When I get the time to finally relea=
se the next version this will be included it is located at:=0A=0Ahttps://sv=
n.sourceforge.net/svnroot/simpleweb/branches/3.2/src/simple/signal/=0A =0AN=
iall Gallagher=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Stefan H=FCbner <st=
hu...@go...>=0ATo: Simple support and user issues <simpleweb-sup=
po...@li...>=0ASent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:54:23 PM=0A=
Subject: Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?=0A=0AHi Oscar,=0A=0A2007/=
3/21, Oscar Perez <os...@te...>:=0A> Hi,=0A> I don't have an ans=
wer to you, but I faced the same problem just a week=0A> ago and what I did=
 was to track all the started threads to kill them at=0A> shutdown time. I'=
ll not post my code here now, but I'll advise you to=0A> not do as me, as I=
 lost a lot of hours tracking threads and debugging...=0A=0AThank you for t=
hat :-)=0A=0A> I guess LoaderEngine was not designed to have a clean shutdo=
wn?=0A>=0AWhat I figured out, when I had a second look into Simple's code, =
is=0Athat there is at least the opportunity to close() the ServerSocket the=
=0Aconnection is connect()ed with. After close() Simple won't serve any=0Ar=
equest sent to the port the socket was serving.=0A=0ABut getting rid of all=
 those threads seems like a mission impossible,=0Agiven how much Simple rel=
ies on Singletons. One hardly gets the chance=0Ato get hold of all those hi=
dden instances, I guess.=0A=0ACheers,=0AStefan=0A>=0A> En/na Stefan H=FCbne=
r ha escrit:=0A> > Hi,=0A> >=0A> > Excuse me, if this has been asked before=
, but how do I shutdown a=0A> > LoaderEngine? Is there a way to do so?=0A> =
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Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?

[Niall G. <gal...@ya...>]

Hi Stefan,=0A=0AYou can make use of the signal framework by making your thr=
eads Daemon objects. So instead of extending thread or using a thread use a=
 Daemon object. This object will recieve a shutdown signal when the Signall=
er is asked to shutdown. Also a Module is like the Daemon, however instead =
of using it with threads you would use the Module with arbitrary objects th=
at want to listen for a shutdown signal. Using it in this way the Signaller=
 can send signals to parts of the server that wish to shutdown gracefully.=
=0A =0ANiall Gallagher=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Stefan H=FC=
bner <sth...@go...>=0ATo: Simple support and user issues <simpl=
ewe...@li...>=0ASent: Wednesday, April 4, 2007 4:28:2=
0 PM=0ASubject: Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?=0A=0ANiall,=0A=0AI=
 had a look at the new signal-framework but couldn't get much out of=0Ait. =
Could you be so kind to provide an example of how to make use of=0Athe new =
Module-class? I.e. what would I use a Module for?=0A=0AAnd whats your sugge=
stion for how to shut down a PipelineHandler and=0Ait's Processors?=0A=0AMy=
 use case is to emulate (implemented as a Simple Resource) some web=0Aservi=
ces providing backend communication  for a component under unit=0Atest. I w=
ant to configure the http services in different ways,=0Adepending on the un=
it test to be run. To reconfigure I need to be able=0Ato start and stop the=
 service completely.=0AIs this possible using Simple and it's signal framew=
ork?=0A=0ARegards,=0AStefan=0A=0A2007/3/22, Niall Gallagher <gallagher_nial=
l...@ya...>:=0A> Hi,=0A>=0A> I have written a signalling framework which w=
ill be used in Simple so send signals to all threads and processes within t=
he server when something happens. For instance a shutdown signal will be di=
stributed to all threads to allow them to shutdown cleanly. When I get the =
time to finally release the next version this will be included it is locate=
d at:=0A>=0A> https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/simpleweb/branches/3.2/sr=
c/simple/signal/=0A>=0A> Niall Gallagher=0A>=0A> ----- Original Message ---=
-=0A> From: Stefan H=FCbner <sth...@go...>=0A> To: Simple suppo=
rt and user issues <sim...@li...>=0A> Sent: Wedn=
esday, March 21, 2007 7:54:23 PM=0A> Subject: Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How t=
o shutdown?=0A>=0A> Hi Oscar,=0A>=0A> 2007/3/21, Oscar Perez <os_carp@telef=
onica.net>:=0A> > Hi,=0A> > I don't have an answer to you, but I faced the =
same problem just a week=0A> > ago and what I did was to track all the star=
ted threads to kill them at=0A> > shutdown time. I'll not post my code here=
 now, but I'll advise you to=0A> > not do as me, as I lost a lot of hours t=
racking threads and debugging...=0A>=0A> Thank you for that :-)=0A>=0A> > I=
 guess LoaderEngine was not designed to have a clean shutdown?=0A> >=0A> Wh=
at I figured out, when I had a second look into Simple's code, is=0A> that =
there is at least the opportunity to close() the ServerSocket the=0A> conne=
ction is connect()ed with. After close() Simple won't serve any=0A> request=
 sent to the port the socket was serving.=0A>=0A> But getting rid of all th=
ose threads seems like a mission impossible,=0A> given how much Simple reli=
es on Singletons. One hardly gets the chance=0A> to get hold of all those h=
idden instances, I guess.=0A>=0A> Cheers,=0A> Stefan=0A> >=0A> > En/na Stef=
an H=FCbner ha escrit:=0A> > > Hi,=0A> > >=0A> > > Excuse me, if this has b=
een asked before, but how do I shutdown a=0A> > > LoaderEngine? Is there a =
way to do so?=0A> > >=0A> > > Cheers,=0A> > > Stefan=0A> > >=0A> > > ------=
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Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?

[Niall G. <gal...@ya...>]

Hi,=0A=0AYes the signalling framework will be included in the next release.=
 Quite a bit of work has been added for the next release, however I think i=
t will be a couple of months yet before I can completely finish it.=0A=0ANi=
all=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Stefan H=FCbner <sthuebner@goo=
glemail.com>=0ATo: Simple support and user issues <simpleweb-support@lists.=
sourceforge.net>=0ASent: Friday, April 6, 2007 6:22:24 AM=0ASubject: Re: [S=
impleweb-Support] How to shutdown?=0A=0AHi Niall, thanks for the explanatio=
ns.=0A=0A2007/4/6, Niall Gallagher <gal...@ya...>:=0A> Hi Stef=
an,=0A>=0A> You can make use of the signal framework by making your threads=
 Daemon objects. So instead of extending thread or using a thread use a Dae=
mon object.=0A=0ASo any custom threads my services would execute should be =
Daemons. Ok,=0AI got that.=0A=0AIs this behaviour planned to be incorporate=
d into the existing classes=0Amaybe? I.e. will Simple 3.2 provide this shut=
down facility for its own=0Acore classes? The current 3.2's sources don't s=
eem to do so right now.=0AOr do you prefer custom implementations to make u=
se of the=0Ashutdown-mechanism?=0A=0A> This object will recieve a shutdown =
signal when the Signaller is asked to shutdown. Also a Module is like the D=
aemon, however instead of using it with threads you would use the Module wi=
th arbitrary objects that want to listen for a shutdown signal. Using it in=
 this way the Signaller can send signals to parts of the server that wish t=
o shutdown gracefully.=0A=0AE.g. I would make my Resources or Services exte=
nd Module or just have=0Athem implement the Shutdown-Interface? That way th=
ey will receive a=0Ashutdown()-signal. Ok, that sounds nice.=0A=0A>=0A> Nia=
ll Gallagher=0A>=0A> ----- Original Message ----=0A> From: Stefan H=FCbner =
<sth...@go...>=0A> To: Simple support and user issues <simplewe=
b-s...@li...>=0A> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2007 4:28:20=
 PM=0A> Subject: Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?=0A>=0A> Niall,=0A=
>=0A> I had a look at the new signal-framework but couldn't get much out of=
=0A> it. Could you be so kind to provide an example of how to make use of=
=0A> the new Module-class? I.e. what would I use a Module for?=0A>=0A> And =
whats your suggestion for how to shut down a PipelineHandler and=0A> it's P=
rocessors?=0A>=0A> My use case is to emulate (implemented as a Simple Resou=
rce) some web=0A> services providing backend communication  for a component=
 under unit=0A> test. I want to configure the http services in different wa=
ys,=0A> depending on the unit test to be run. To reconfigure I need to be a=
ble=0A> to start and stop the service completely.=0A> Is this possible usin=
g Simple and it's signal framework?=0A>=0A> Regards,=0A> Stefan=0A>=0A> 200=
7/3/22, Niall Gallagher <gal...@ya...>:=0A> > Hi,=0A> >=0A> > =
I have written a signalling framework which will be used in Simple so send =
signals to all threads and processes within the server when something happe=
ns. For instance a shutdown signal will be distributed to all threads to al=
low them to shutdown cleanly. When I get the time to finally release the ne=
xt version this will be included it is located at:=0A> >=0A> > https://svn.=
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Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?

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2007/4/6, Niall Gallagher <gal...@ya...>:
> Hi,
>
> Yes the signalling framework will be included in the next release.

Excellent!

> Quite a bit of work has been added for the next release, however I think it will be a couple of months yet before I can completely finish it.
>
Too bad! Do you see any chance to release an early alpha including
those features? What's on your list of features for the next release
besides of the singals framework, anyways?
That asked - have you ever thought about migrating to maven as build
tool or at least to provide a POM - so Simple could be published to
Maven's central repository? I'd be happy to help you there in one or
the other way.

Cheers,
Stefan

Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?

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Re: [Simpleweb-Support] How to shutdown?

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