Re: [Shinken-devel] New feature in devel branch : The "Check ways"

[Olivier H. <oli...@gm...>]

Hello Florent,

A mysql module exists, that can query a database :)  It is very simple.
You just have to forge your sql request to suit your CMDB.

Regards

Olivier

2013/2/25 Florent Houbart <flo...@gm...>

> Hello all,
>
> I am following this discussion with lot of interest. I don't really know
> how the python module that convert the config files in the dictionary
> internal representation, but I currently have some though about plugin
> Shinken with other tools. The more obvious use case I see (and I'm
> interested in) is to be able to plug Shinken with a CMDB like tool to
> automatically generate probe definition from what is configured in
> architecture referential. Change the definition in the central database,
> and monitoring tools (and even other tools) automatically adapt to it.
> I know such kind of thing is already done with GLPI with the help of a
> module but there is currently no way to "easily" plug to another tool. I
> see 3 ways it can be done :
>
>     1/ One develop a module that will plug into shinken and will after
> startup add all necessary host/services extracted from the given external
> tool. It may be the more robust, but need developing skills and knowing
> Shinken's internal to add even a simple connexion
>
>     2/ Completely externally to shinken (a bit like centreon works), the
> external tools generate a nagios like config file that is then read by
> Shinken. More standard format like json or xml may help in this direction
>
>     3/ Introducting python code directly into config file may be a mid
> point between those two ones : in the config file, a small fonction is
> written that query the external tool and merge the adequate config into the
> config file
>
>
> My own point is that I don't sufficiently know Shinken's internal (for
> now) to develop a module even for very simple case and is sticked to
> solution 2 that I don't really like because of all the hassle with file
> generation when multiples sources are required.
> I planned to learn in a few month how Shinken load config files and work
> an a module for my particular needs, but if it can be used in the standard
> Shinken release it's even better ! I will be glad to help if there is no
> hurry to implement this feature.
>
> Regards,
> Florent
>
>
> 2013/2/25 nap <nap...@gm...>
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Hermann Lauer <
>> Her...@iw...> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>> [...]
>>>
>>> just an idea to put in there: Is it feasible to have different config
>>> "languages" like the salt config management tool has ? Those can use at
>>> least yaml, direct python code, jinja2 and xml.
>>> One is the (settable) default for the config files, but this can be
>>> changed
>>> with a shebang syntax in every individual file.
>>>
>>> Of course shinken would have additionally the nagios compatible
>>> "language",
>>> in the beginning as the default "language".
>>>
>>> An important point would be that the direct python code would allow to
>>> introduce self defined functions, objects and more, so not every new
>>> dynamic feature has to be introduced in the nagios "language", as you
>>> can use python code.
>>>
>>> This would also be a path to merge the daemons config into the main
>>> config in the long run.
>>>
>>> Shurely no short time idea...
>>> Thanks very much for all the work,
>>>
>>>  greetings
>>>   Hermann
>>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Sounds possible indeed (in the Shinken internal, the objects are just a
>> key=>value dictionary with strings, so we don't really care about the input
>> format.). But maybe we should try to find some use cases where this can be
>> used, and see if the effort will really solve a real user problem, or if
>> the current configuration features are enough.
>>
>> It's true that the nagios configuration style was a problem, but after
>> some quick features for simplify the configuration, now it's quite good,
>> even for linking lot of objects together (like escalations and hosts for
>> example). So let's find something that will change admin habits with this
>> new capabilities, and then we can look if we should add a configuration
>> overlay (like direct python or jinja, I'm really not a fan of XML and YAML
>> :p ).
>>
>>
>> Jean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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