From: James H. K. <jam...@gm...> - 2011-11-10 00:02:49
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Hi, We tried to find some examples about RDF importing/updating but couldn't not really find some compelling information, so the questions into SMW round how would we proceeded to import/update information from a source [1], [2] (Eurostat economics data) into our system? If some one has a good example, starting point or link to a documentation that would really hopefully to bring us to a point where property/value updating actually work. Not sure Extension:External Data can help with it [1] http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/?browse_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2F02%2F22-rdf-syntax-ns%23type [2] http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/sources/ Thanks MWJames |
From: Laurent A. <la...@al...> - 2011-11-10 01:17:09
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I would be really interested in hearing what people think about the update side of things. Importing from RDF into the wiki is relatively easy with a bit of code. External Data can serve as a base. One could envision an XSLT transformation from the XML of RDF into the XML expected by External Data. Or directly reading the XML from RDF and building direct imports using the API (look at the AddPaper extension for an example of PHP code for XML to Wiki). http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddPaper What I am still trying to wrap my head around is how to handle updates, especially if there is a mix of user provided edits to pages already imported into the wiki. It would be nice to have a semantic mediawiki aware bot that could try to import things again, detect that a page already exists, flag differences and prioritize them... maybe even suggest when to replace or merge content from the old page and the new one. Is this something close to the Gardening Bot from Halo ? - Laurent On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM, James Hong Kong < jam...@gm...> wrote: > Hi, > > We tried to find some examples about RDF importing/updating but > couldn't not really find some compelling information, so the questions > into SMW round how would we proceeded to import/update information > from a source [1], [2] (Eurostat economics data) into our system? > > If some one has a good example, starting point or link to a > documentation that would really hopefully to bring us to a point where > property/value updating actually work. > > Not sure Extension:External Data can help with it > > [1] > http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/?browse_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2F02%2F22-rdf-syntax-ns%23type > > [2] http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/sources/ > > Thanks > > MWJames > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- - Laurent Alquier http://www.linfa.net |
From: Yaron K. <ya...@wi...> - 2011-11-10 04:34:11
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Hi, I've never actually used RDF on a wiki, but what about just querying the RDF using SPARQL? There are various extensions that let you do that (SparqlExtension, etc.), and there's also the Spark extension, which lets you do some basic SMW-style formatting on the results: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Spark -Yaron On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Laurent Alquier <la...@al...> wrote: > I would be really interested in hearing what people think about the update > side of things. > > Importing from RDF into the wiki is relatively easy with a bit of code. > External Data can serve as a base. One could envision an XSLT > transformation from the XML of RDF into the XML expected by External Data. > Or directly reading the XML from RDF and building direct imports using the > API (look at the AddPaper extension for an example of PHP code for XML to > Wiki). > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddPaper > > What I am still trying to wrap my head around is how to handle updates, > especially if there is a mix of user provided edits to pages already > imported into the wiki. > > It would be nice to have a semantic mediawiki aware bot that could try to > import things again, detect that a page already exists, flag differences > and prioritize them... maybe even suggest when to replace or merge content > from the old page and the new one. > > Is this something close to the Gardening Bot from Halo ? > > - Laurent > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM, James Hong Kong < > jam...@gm...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We tried to find some examples about RDF importing/updating but > > couldn't not really find some compelling information, so the questions > > into SMW round how would we proceeded to import/update information > > from a source [1], [2] (Eurostat economics data) into our system? > > > > If some one has a good example, starting point or link to a > > documentation that would really hopefully to bring us to a point where > > property/value updating actually work. > > > > Not sure Extension:External Data can help with it > > > > [1] > > > http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/?browse_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2F1999%2F02%2F22-rdf-syntax-ns%23type > > > > [2] http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/sources/ > > > > Thanks > > > > MWJames > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > > Save $700 by Nov 18 > > Register now > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > > > > > -- > - Laurent Alquier > http://www.linfa.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com |
From: Bruce W. <br...@fu...> - 2011-11-10 08:15:01
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Hello, There is an extension called RDFIO which is described here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RDFIO Unfortunately, it is not supported with SWM 1.6. I hope that will change soon. As far as querying the RDF with SPARQL, does that require that the RDF output be generated using maintenance script that generates an RDF output of the entire wiki? Here is a page that talks about that: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:RDF_export Is that necessary before you can query the data? That page describes a maintenance script that will export the entire RDF data for the entire wiki. Spark looks pretty cool, I'll have to check that out. Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Yaron Koren [mailto:ya...@wi...] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:34 PM To: Laurent Alquier Cc: Semantic MediaWiki users Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Importing/updating properties/values from external source into SMW Hi, I've never actually used RDF on a wiki, but what about just querying the RDF using SPARQL? There are various extensions that let you do that (SparqlExtension, etc.), and there's also the Spark extension, which lets you do some basic SMW-style formatting on the results: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Spark -Yaron On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Laurent Alquier <la...@al...> wrote: > I would be really interested in hearing what people think about the > update side of things. > > Importing from RDF into the wiki is relatively easy with a bit of code. > External Data can serve as a base. One could envision an XSLT > transformation from the XML of RDF into the XML expected by External Data. > Or directly reading the XML from RDF and building direct imports using > the API (look at the AddPaper extension for an example of PHP code for > XML to Wiki). > > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AddPaper > > What I am still trying to wrap my head around is how to handle > updates, especially if there is a mix of user provided edits to pages > already imported into the wiki. > > It would be nice to have a semantic mediawiki aware bot that could try > to import things again, detect that a page already exists, flag > differences and prioritize them... maybe even suggest when to replace > or merge content from the old page and the new one. > > Is this something close to the Gardening Bot from Halo ? > > - Laurent > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:02 PM, James Hong Kong < > jam...@gm...> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > We tried to find some examples about RDF importing/updating but > > couldn't not really find some compelling information, so the > > questions into SMW round how would we proceeded to import/update > > information from a source [1], [2] (Eurostat economics data) into our system? > > > > If some one has a good example, starting point or link to a > > documentation that would really hopefully to bring us to a point > > where property/value updating actually work. > > > > Not sure Extension:External Data can help with it > > > > [1] > > > http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/?browse_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fw > ww.w3.org%2F1999%2F02%2F22-rdf-syntax-ns%23type > > > > [2] http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/rdf_browser/sources/ > > > > Thanks > > > > MWJames > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > > Save $700 by Nov 18 > > Register now > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > > > > > -- > - Laurent Alquier > http://www.linfa.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > RSA(R) Conference 2012 > Save $700 by Nov 18 > Register now > http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- WikiWorks . MediaWiki Consulting . http://wikiworks.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- RSA(R) Conference 2012 Save $700 by Nov 18 Register now http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsa-sfdev2dev1 _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Sem...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user |