From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2009-11-26 14:49:49
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Hi all, the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> Some of you have already seen the preview of this site at the SMW Camp in Karlsruhe. It is an interesting example of how to set up SMW for use cases that are quite different from a standard wiki site. Noteworthy features of the portal include: * A complete site based on top-down decisions and organisational requirements, carefully designed and pre-populated for a group of users who are not expected to know or like wikis * Numerous query-based views with complex visualisations, many are based on templates and include pictures * Somewhat complex infrastructure of Semantic Forms * Multi-language content (we use some customisations to make this work smoothly) * Various performance hacks (e.g. we are storing pre-formatted texts to avoid template-based formatting in certain cases) -- note how fast the site is :-) * Rather complex skinning (independent from SMW) The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can still access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes (just edit the URLs accordingly). Cheers, Markus -- Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> * Personal page: http://korrekt.org * Semantic MediaWiki: http://semantic-mediawiki.org * Semantic Web textbook: http://semantic-web-book.org -- |
From: Philipp Z. <zal...@on...> - 2009-11-26 15:03:56
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Hi Markus, the new AIFB portal looks great! I am sure that SMW will benefit from the experiences gained during the development of the portal. Regards, Philipp Markus Krötzsch schrieb: > Hi all, > > the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: > > <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> > > Some of you have already seen the preview of this site at the SMW Camp in > Karlsruhe. It is an interesting example of how to set up SMW for use cases > that are quite different from a standard wiki site. Noteworthy features of the > portal include: > > * A complete site based on top-down decisions and organisational requirements, > carefully designed and pre-populated for a group of users who are not expected > to know or like wikis > * Numerous query-based views with complex visualisations, many are based on > templates and include pictures > * Somewhat complex infrastructure of Semantic Forms > * Multi-language content (we use some customisations to make this work > smoothly) > * Various performance hacks (e.g. we are storing pre-formatted texts to avoid > template-based formatting in certain cases) -- note how fast the site is :-) > * Rather complex skinning (independent from SMW) > > The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can still > access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes (just edit > the URLs accordingly). > > Cheers, > > Markus > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- Professional Services ontoprise GmbH - know how to use Know-how - - - ontoprise has become a Microsoft Certified Partner: http://www.ontoprise.de/en/home/news/news-en/microsoft-certified-partner/ - - - An der RaumFabrik 29; 76227 Karlsruhe; Germany Tel.: +49 721 509809 0; Fax: +49 721 509809 11 eMail: zal...@on...; www: http://www.ontoprise.de Sitz der Gesellschaft: Amtsgericht Mannheim, HRB 109540 Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Jürgen Angele, Dipl.Wi.-Ing. Hans-Peter Schnurr |
From: Patrick N. <ma...@pa...> - 2009-11-27 02:51:53
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Hi, On 2009-11-26 14:49 UTC Markus Krötzsch wrote: > the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: > > <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> > [...] > The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can > still access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes > (just edit the URLs accordingly). Very interesting. It's a bit of a pity that the Template (Vorlage) namespace is locked down, so we can't really see what's going on behind the scenes. Patrick. -- Key ID: 0x86E346D4 http://patrick-nagel.net/key.asc Fingerprint: 7745 E1BE FA8B FBAD 76AB 2BFC C981 E686 86E3 46D4 |
From: Jude j. <jcj...@gm...> - 2009-11-27 06:12:37
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Quite nice. Very 'Enterprise' like. Will the skin and/or a way to do something similar be released? Jude On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Philipp Zaltenbach < zal...@on...> wrote: > Hi Markus, > > the new AIFB portal looks great! I am sure that SMW will benefit from > the experiences gained during the development of the portal. > > Regards, > Philipp > > Markus Krötzsch schrieb: > > Hi all, > > > > the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: > > > > <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> > > > > Some of you have already seen the preview of this site at the SMW Camp in > > Karlsruhe. It is an interesting example of how to set up SMW for use > cases > > that are quite different from a standard wiki site. Noteworthy features > of the > > portal include: > > > > * A complete site based on top-down decisions and organisational > requirements, > > carefully designed and pre-populated for a group of users who are not > expected > > to know or like wikis > > * Numerous query-based views with complex visualisations, many are based > on > > templates and include pictures > > * Somewhat complex infrastructure of Semantic Forms > > * Multi-language content (we use some customisations to make this work > > smoothly) > > * Various performance hacks (e.g. we are storing pre-formatted texts to > avoid > > template-based formatting in certain cases) -- note how fast the site is > :-) > > * Rather complex skinning (independent from SMW) > > > > The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can > still > > access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes (just > edit > > the URLs accordingly). > > > > Cheers, > > > > Markus > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > 30-Day > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > focus on > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > > > -- > Professional Services > ontoprise GmbH - know how to use Know-how > - - - > ontoprise has become a Microsoft Certified Partner: > http://www.ontoprise.de/en/home/news/news-en/microsoft-certified-partner/ > - - - > An der RaumFabrik 29; 76227 Karlsruhe; Germany > Tel.: +49 721 509809 0; Fax: +49 721 509809 11 > eMail: zal...@on...; www: http://www.ontoprise.de > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Amtsgericht Mannheim, HRB 109540 > Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Jürgen Angele, Dipl.Wi.-Ing. Hans-Peter Schnurr > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2009-11-27 09:42:53
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On Freitag, 27. November 2009, Jude jonassaint wrote: > Quite nice. Very 'Enterprise' like. > Will the skin and/or a way to do something similar be released? We consider publishing an experience report with some insights. Daniel's talk (see my previous mail) also has some additional details. The skin is based on the corporate identity of our organisation and will certainly not be released for external re-use ;-). But it might be possible to share some technical aspects of it (e.g. how the menu or sidebars are done). -- Markus > Jude > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Philipp Zaltenbach < > > zal...@on...> wrote: > > Hi Markus, > > > > the new AIFB portal looks great! I am sure that SMW will benefit from > > the experiences gained during the development of the portal. > > > > Regards, > > Philipp > > > > Markus Krötzsch schrieb: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: > > > > > > <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> > > > > > > Some of you have already seen the preview of this site at the SMW Camp > > > in Karlsruhe. It is an interesting example of how to set up SMW for use > > > > cases > > > > > that are quite different from a standard wiki site. Noteworthy features > > > > of the > > > > > portal include: > > > > > > * A complete site based on top-down decisions and organisational > > > > requirements, > > > > > carefully designed and pre-populated for a group of users who are not > > > > expected > > > > > to know or like wikis > > > * Numerous query-based views with complex visualisations, many are > > > based > > > > on > > > > > templates and include pictures > > > * Somewhat complex infrastructure of Semantic Forms > > > * Multi-language content (we use some customisations to make this work > > > smoothly) > > > * Various performance hacks (e.g. we are storing pre-formatted texts to > > > > avoid > > > > > template-based formatting in certain cases) -- note how fast the site > > > is > > > > > :-) > > : > > > * Rather complex skinning (independent from SMW) > > > > > > The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can > > > > still > > > > > access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes > > > (just > > > > edit > > > > > the URLs accordingly). > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Markus > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- > > > > > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > > > > 30-Day > > > > > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and > > > > focus on > > > > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > > Sem...@li... > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > > > -- > > Professional Services > > ontoprise GmbH - know how to use Know-how > > - - - > > ontoprise has become a Microsoft Certified Partner: > > http://www.ontoprise.de/en/home/news/news-en/microsoft-certified-partner/ > > - - - > > An der RaumFabrik 29; 76227 Karlsruhe; Germany > > Tel.: +49 721 509809 0; Fax: +49 721 509809 11 > > eMail: zal...@on...; www: http://www.ontoprise.de > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Amtsgericht Mannheim, HRB 109540 > > Geschäftsführer: Prof. Dr. Jürgen Angele, Dipl.Wi.-Ing. Hans-Peter > > Schnurr > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > > 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - > > and focus on > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> * Personal page: http://korrekt.org * Semantic MediaWiki: http://semantic-mediawiki.org * Semantic Web textbook: http://semantic-web-book.org -- |
From: Ad S. v. S. <ad....@gm...> - 2009-11-27 07:38:55
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Hi Markus, The site looks very good, but not quite like a wiki at all. I presume for some user groups this is different. Can you explain for what user groups it does look like a wiki? And why an SMW based wiki is to be preferred to a 'normal' site with a 'normal' CMS? Thanks, Ad. 2009/11/26 Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> > Hi all, > > the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: > > <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> > > Some of you have already seen the preview of this site at the SMW Camp in > Karlsruhe. It is an interesting example of how to set up SMW for use cases > that are quite different from a standard wiki site. Noteworthy features of > the > portal include: > > * A complete site based on top-down decisions and organisational > requirements, > carefully designed and pre-populated for a group of users who are not > expected > to know or like wikis > * Numerous query-based views with complex visualisations, many are based on > templates and include pictures > * Somewhat complex infrastructure of Semantic Forms > * Multi-language content (we use some customisations to make this work > smoothly) > * Various performance hacks (e.g. we are storing pre-formatted texts to > avoid > template-based formatting in certain cases) -- note how fast the site is > :-) > * Rather complex skinning (independent from SMW) > > The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can > still > access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes (just > edit > the URLs accordingly). > > Cheers, > > Markus > > -- > Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> > * Personal page: http://korrekt.org > * Semantic MediaWiki: http://semantic-mediawiki.org > * Semantic Web textbook: http://semantic-web-book.org > -- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day > trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus > on > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2009-11-27 09:39:51
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On Freitag, 27. November 2009, Ad Strack van Schijndel wrote: > Hi Markus, > The site looks very good, but not quite like a wiki at all. > I presume for some user groups this is different. Can you explain for what > user groups it does look like a wiki? > And why an SMW based wiki is to be preferred to a 'normal' site with a > 'normal' CMS? I think some answers to these questions have been given in Daniel's talk [1]. In short, logged in users will see an extra panel with actions as you know them from a wiki, but otherwise they see the same skin. The reason for us to prefer SMW was that we wanted (1) a flexible data scheme that could be extended later on without needing a developer, (2) an easy user-space option for creating new views (queries) and for customising the appearance of pages, and (3) metadata exports (vCard, iCal, Bibtex, OWL/RDF). Item (3) of course particularly important to a research group working with semantic technologies ;-) But (1) and (2) turns out to be very successful as well: we have already done a number of adjustments and extensions based on individual requests, and some other members of the institute who are not in our group have already customised views as well. This is quite in contrast to our earlier portal, which evolved into something that was rather unmaintainable at some point, since custom views have been created based on custom DB access scripts. Also, it is extremely convenient for us that we can simply add some text or link to almost any page if we like to, not as in some of those corporate CMS where any form of user-space customisation is mostly out of scope. We did not have any CMS candidate that has been close to our requirements, but I am sure that there would be other viable solutions. Also, some companies may not want the degree of customisability that we like to have in our setting. Regards, Markus [1] http://smwforum.ontoprise.com/smwforum/images/5/5a/Smw-portal- lessons.pptx.pdf > > Thanks, > Ad. > > > 2009/11/26 Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> > > > Hi all, > > > > the new web portal of the AIFB institute has just been launched: > > > > <http://www.aifb.kit.edu/> > > > > Some of you have already seen the preview of this site at the SMW Camp in > > Karlsruhe. It is an interesting example of how to set up SMW for use > > cases that are quite different from a standard wiki site. Noteworthy > > features of the > > portal include: > > > > * A complete site based on top-down decisions and organisational > > requirements, > > carefully designed and pre-populated for a group of users who are not > > expected > > to know or like wikis > > * Numerous query-based views with complex visualisations, many are based > > on templates and include pictures > > * Somewhat complex infrastructure of Semantic Forms > > * Multi-language content (we use some customisations to make this work > > smoothly) > > * Various performance hacks (e.g. we are storing pre-formatted texts to > > avoid > > template-based formatting in certain cases) -- note how fast the site is > > > > :-) > > > > * Rather complex skinning (independent from SMW) > > > > The wiki nature of the site is mostly hidden from visitors, but you can > > still > > access page sources/read-only form views to look behind the scenes (just > > edit > > the URLs accordingly). > > > > Cheers, > > > > Markus > > > > -- > > Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> > > * Personal page: http://korrekt.org > > * Semantic MediaWiki: http://semantic-mediawiki.org > > * Semantic Web textbook: http://semantic-web-book.org > > -- > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >----- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 > > 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - > > and focus on > > what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with > > Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> * Personal page: http://korrekt.org * Semantic MediaWiki: http://semantic-mediawiki.org * Semantic Web textbook: http://semantic-web-book.org -- |