From: Pierre R. <Pie...@sb...> - 2011-09-05 16:41:34
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Hi, I'm trying to define a form template (a part of form I could include, like a template, in many other forms) but it doesn't seems to work. I tried to make it as a template in the "template" namespace without success. Same result if I make it in the "form" namespace and then include it like this: {{Form:FormPartToInclude}}. Anybody know how to do that? Thanks, Pierre |
From: Yaron K. <ya...@wi...> - 2011-09-05 22:22:51
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Hi Pierre, In a "form template", you need to escape the characters "{", "|" and "}", replacing them with "{", "|" and "}", respectively. Could that be the issue? -Yaron On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Pierre Racine <Pie...@sb...>wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to define a form template (a part of form I could include, like > a template, in many other forms) but it doesn't seems to work. I tried to > make it as a template in the "template" namespace without success. Same > result if I make it in the "form" namespace and then include it like this: > {{Form:FormPartToInclude}}. > > Anybody know how to do that? > > Thanks, > > Pierre > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you > download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com |
From: Bruce W. <br...@fu...> - 2011-09-05 23:42:30
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So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something in the documentation though. The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly small. I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed instructions on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a table before I added the option to support the graph format. Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result formats I might want to try and how they are configured? Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: http://whealton.info/w/ http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-09-06 15:27:00
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The documentation looks pretty good to me : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats What are you having trouble with? As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info on general debugging: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug HTH, Dan. On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the > extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something in > the documentation though. > The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly small. > I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed instructions > on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. > I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a > table before I added the option to support the graph format. > Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result formats > I might want to try and how they are configured? > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you > download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > |
From: Bruce W. <br...@fu...> - 2011-09-06 22:08:15
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Dan, Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the features that exist? Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there should only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data is in the wiki that matches the query. I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the code that I used. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: http://whealton.info/w/ http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM To: Bruce Whealton Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats The documentation looks pretty good to me : http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats What are you having trouble with? As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info on general debugging: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug HTH, Dan. On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the > extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something in > the documentation though. > The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly small. > I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed instructions > on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. > I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a > table before I added the option to support the graph format. > Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result formats > I might want to try and how they are configured? > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! > Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better > price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you > download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > |
From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-09-07 09:55:31
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Your example is bad, because it's cluttered with other bits of information. Try making a clean example, with just a few links, and try it on a public wiki where you know graphviz is installed (not sure where to be honest, which is a bit of a clue as to the status of the code). I see a broken link to a graph image, which is an important clue. Please check the server logs and see what error messages may be there. Yeah, I agree more information on the format would be good, including how properties are passed to graphviz. By putting individual formats on sub pages of the extension page, we loose the usual place to put examples and lists of wikis using the 'extension', etc. Once you get the thing working by debugging the broken image link, please work on the documentation page to add more examples, more descriptions and links. In the meantime, you can look at this extension: http://semanticgraph.sourceforge.net/ What we really need is a decent JS graphing 'framework', and a transparent way to pass the results of #ask to such formats. See also: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Result_Formats-_Automatically_transforming_structured_data_into_useful_output_formats.pdf Cheers, Dan. On 6 September 2011 23:08, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > Dan, > Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the > features that exist? > Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one > example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there should > only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the > example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit > within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data is > in the wiki that matches the query. > > I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain > that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path > to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was > getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. > The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ > Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the > code that I used. > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM > To: Bruce Whealton > Cc: sem...@li... > Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats > > The documentation looks pretty good to me : > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats > > What are you having trouble with? > > > As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info > on general debugging: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug > > > HTH, > Dan. > > On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> > wrote: >> So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the >> extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something > in >> the documentation though. >> The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly > small. >> I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed > instructions >> on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. >> I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a >> table before I added the option to support the graph format. >> Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result > formats >> I might want to try and how they are configured? >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >> http://whealton.info/w/ >> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >> price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you >> download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-user mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user >> > > |
From: Alex M. H. <amh...@on...> - 2011-09-07 17:34:16
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Bruce, I would check several things: 1) What are the permissions on your images/graphviz directory on the server? (This is in your installation directory, possibly /var/www/w) Your web server user must have read and write permissions in this directory. On Debian/Ubuntu, the web server user name is www-data. I'm not sure what it is on RHEL/CentOS, but to do this, I would go to your mediawiki installation directory, then run something like "sudo chown -R {webserverusername} images/graphviz; sudo chmod -R 755 images/graphviz" 2) You should carefully review how you have called the GraphViz and SRF extensions in LocalSettings.php. I have found (at least with SMW 1.5.6 and compatible versions of SRF and GraphViz) that the default method of adding "graph" to SRF formats does not work (at least not for me; this may have been fixed in more recent versions). 3) What are your "pruning" and "naming" settings? Based on the HTML output of your page, it looks like you are using the simple page graph naming option, which I have found to be buggy, in that unless you change the name of the page, the very first graph you generate will forever be the graph on that page. For what it's worth, here is how I typically configure GraphViz and SRF in LocalSettings.php, AFTER the SRF call and BEFORE the enableSemantics call: #GraphViz require_once("extensions/GraphViz/GraphViz.php"); /*Find the following by running "which dot", then removing "dot" from the end of that path*/ $wgGraphVizSettings->execPath = "/usr/bin/"; $wgGraphVizSettings->MscgenPath = "/usr/bin/"; #SRF query output array - cannot seem to add new formats via array here #$srfgFormats = array( 'skstable', 'exhibit', 'icalendar', 'vcard', 'calendar', 'eventline', 'timeline', 'outline', 'gallery', 'jqplotbar', 'jqplotpie', 'sum', 'average', 'min', 'max', 'graph', 'process', ); #Adding array elements individually works, though... $srfgFormats[] = 'graph'; $srfgFormats[] = 'process'; #GraphViz pruning /* Using the sha1 setting seems to keep the graph current on each page save */ $wgGraphVizSettings->named = "sha1"; /*Pruning keeps the extension from gobbling disk space */ $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneEnabled = "true"; $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneStrategy = "filenumber"; /*The following value is VERY low; again, set for a real-time system; probably not appropriate for a public wiki with lots of users*/ $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneValue = "10"; $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneAmount = "0.2"; The default image settings seem to work for my purposes. Finding these settings took a bit of fiddling, but they seem to work for me. Note that I use these settings in a real-time environment on a dedicated server with frequent major semantic changes. You may want to adjust the pruneValue and pruneAmount to be appropriate for your system capabilities and traffic. Hope this helps, Alex -- Alex M. Hendler ontolawgy™ LLC - connect . . . the . . . dots™ http://ontolawgy.com ----Original Message----- From: Dan Bolser <dan...@gm...> To: Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:55:23 +0100 Your example is bad, because it's cluttered with other bits of information. Try making a clean example, with just a few links, and try it on a public wiki where you know graphviz is installed (not sure where to be honest, which is a bit of a clue as to the status of the code). I see a broken link to a graph image, which is an important clue. Please check the server logs and see what error messages may be there. Yeah, I agree more information on the format would be good, including how properties are passed to graphviz. By putting individual formats on sub pages of the extension page, we loose the usual place to put examples and lists of wikis using the 'extension', etc. Once you get the thing working by debugging the broken image link, please work on the documentation page to add more examples, more descriptions and links. In the meantime, you can look at this extension: http://semanticgraph.sourceforge.net/ What we really need is a decent JS graphing 'framework', and a transparent way to pass the results of #ask to such formats. See also: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Result_Formats-_Automatically_transforming_structured_data_into_useful_output_formats.pdf Cheers, Dan. On 6 September 2011 23:08, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > Dan, > Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the > features that exist? > Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one > example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there should > only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the > example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit > within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data is > in the wiki that matches the query. > > I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain > that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path > to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was > getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. > The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ > Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the > code that I used. > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM > To: Bruce Whealton > Cc: sem...@li... > Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats > > The documentation looks pretty good to me : > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats > > What are you having trouble with? > > > As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info > on general debugging: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug > > > HTH, > Dan. > > On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> > wrote: >> So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the >> extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something > in >> the documentation though. >> The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly > small. >> I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed > instructions >> on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. >> I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a >> table before I added the option to support the graph format. >> Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result > formats >> I might want to try and how they are configured? >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >> http://whealton.info/w/ >> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >> price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you >> download Logger. 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From: Jeroen De D. <jer...@gm...> - 2011-09-09 13:02:32
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Hey, > What are your "pruning" and "naming" settings? Based on the HTML > output of your page, it looks like you are using the simple page graph > naming option, which I have found to be buggy, in that unless you change > the name of the page, the very first graph you generate will forever be > the graph on that page. This has also been resolved in one of the more recent versions. So I do advise upgrading to the latest release if possible. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- |
From: Bruce W. <br...@fu...> - 2011-09-07 21:45:26
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Alex, Thanks so much for the help. By the way, I am interested in your website that you listed in your sig. I'll have to learn more and check it out. I also like how you have the RDF logo and it gives a rdf output for the page. I guess it's just for the page. Question 1) Exactly what is meant by pruning? Forgive my ignorance, said with embarrassment. 2) Someone mentioned that the #ask parser function is using SPARQL but I haven't been able to get a better feel for how it is doing this based on the structure. You need first the Select for what you want to display and then you want a number of triple statements that each bind certain values to the variables to produce an output. For genealogy the SPARQL would be somewhat depending on how far back you want to go. You have first a name to start with and then you want the property father and the object of that triple, along with the same but for mother. Then each of father and mother become the subject for the next statements. Does that sound right? It's like we want SPARQL to act recursively for a certain number of generations. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: http://whealton.info/w/ http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Alex M. Hendler [mailto:amh...@on...] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:34 PM To: Bruce Whealton Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Bruce, I would check several things: 1) What are the permissions on your images/graphviz directory on the server? (This is in your installation directory, possibly /var/www/w) Your web server user must have read and write permissions in this directory. On Debian/Ubuntu, the web server user name is www-data. I'm not sure what it is on RHEL/CentOS, but to do this, I would go to your mediawiki installation directory, then run something like "sudo chown -R {webserverusername} images/graphviz; sudo chmod -R 755 images/graphviz" 2) You should carefully review how you have called the GraphViz and SRF extensions in LocalSettings.php. I have found (at least with SMW 1.5.6 and compatible versions of SRF and GraphViz) that the default method of adding "graph" to SRF formats does not work (at least not for me; this may have been fixed in more recent versions). 3) What are your "pruning" and "naming" settings? Based on the HTML output of your page, it looks like you are using the simple page graph naming option, which I have found to be buggy, in that unless you change the name of the page, the very first graph you generate will forever be the graph on that page. For what it's worth, here is how I typically configure GraphViz and SRF in LocalSettings.php, AFTER the SRF call and BEFORE the enableSemantics call: #GraphViz require_once("extensions/GraphViz/GraphViz.php"); /*Find the following by running "which dot", then removing "dot" from the end of that path*/ $wgGraphVizSettings->execPath = "/usr/bin/"; $wgGraphVizSettings->MscgenPath = "/usr/bin/"; #SRF query output array - cannot seem to add new formats via array here #$srfgFormats = array( 'skstable', 'exhibit', 'icalendar', 'vcard', 'calendar', 'eventline', 'timeline', 'outline', 'gallery', 'jqplotbar', 'jqplotpie', 'sum', 'average', 'min', 'max', 'graph', 'process', ); #Adding array elements individually works, though... $srfgFormats[] = 'graph'; $srfgFormats[] = 'process'; #GraphViz pruning /* Using the sha1 setting seems to keep the graph current on each page save */ $wgGraphVizSettings->named = "sha1"; /*Pruning keeps the extension from gobbling disk space */ $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneEnabled = "true"; $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneStrategy = "filenumber"; /*The following value is VERY low; again, set for a real-time system; probably not appropriate for a public wiki with lots of users*/ $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneValue = "10"; $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneAmount = "0.2"; The default image settings seem to work for my purposes. Finding these settings took a bit of fiddling, but they seem to work for me. Note that I use these settings in a real-time environment on a dedicated server with frequent major semantic changes. You may want to adjust the pruneValue and pruneAmount to be appropriate for your system capabilities and traffic. Hope this helps, Alex -- Alex M. Hendler ontolawgy™ LLC - connect . . . the . . . dots™ http://ontolawgy.com ----Original Message----- From: Dan Bolser <dan...@gm...> To: Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:55:23 +0100 Your example is bad, because it's cluttered with other bits of information. Try making a clean example, with just a few links, and try it on a public wiki where you know graphviz is installed (not sure where to be honest, which is a bit of a clue as to the status of the code). I see a broken link to a graph image, which is an important clue. Please check the server logs and see what error messages may be there. Yeah, I agree more information on the format would be good, including how properties are passed to graphviz. By putting individual formats on sub pages of the extension page, we loose the usual place to put examples and lists of wikis using the 'extension', etc. Once you get the thing working by debugging the broken image link, please work on the documentation page to add more examples, more descriptions and links. In the meantime, you can look at this extension: http://semanticgraph.sourceforge.net/ What we really need is a decent JS graphing 'framework', and a transparent way to pass the results of #ask to such formats. See also: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Result_Formats-_Automatically_transforming_structured_data_into_useful_output_formats.pdf Cheers, Dan. On 6 September 2011 23:08, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > Dan, > Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the > features that exist? > Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one > example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there should > only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the > example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit > within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data is > in the wiki that matches the query. > > I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain > that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path > to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was > getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. > The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ > Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the > code that I used. > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM > To: Bruce Whealton > Cc: sem...@li... > Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats > > The documentation looks pretty good to me : > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats > > What are you having trouble with? > > > As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info > on general debugging: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug > > > HTH, > Dan. > > On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> > wrote: >> So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the >> extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something > in >> the documentation though. >> The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly > small. >> I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed > instructions >> on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. >> I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a >> table before I added the option to support the graph format. >> Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result > formats >> I might want to try and how they are configured? >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >> http://whealton.info/w/ >> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >> price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you >> download Logger. 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From: Alex M. H. <amh...@on...> - 2011-09-09 10:36:27
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Hi Bruce, I'm glad that was helpful. 1) "Pruning" refers to the GraphViz extension's removal of graphs above a certain limit. In the example below, once the number of graphs in the images/graphviz directory reaches 10, the pruneAmount (0.2) is the proportion of that number (i.e., 2 of them) that gets deleted to keep disk usage down. The default limit is something like 10,000 which gobbles up disk space pretty quickly when (in one of my cases) graphs often exceed 600 KB. 2) To get recursive query results, e.g. to show grandparents, you would need to do an explicit subquery such as [[childOf.childOf::{{PAGENAME}}]] and then printout the property you want to see, e.g., |?childOf=Child of I think it would be a bit trickier to divide it into parent branches. As far as I know, you need to explicitly subquery for those, e.g., [[motherOf.fatherOf::{{PAGENAME}}]] [[fatherOf.fatherOf::{{PAGENAME}}]] and then do printouts for each of them: |?motherOf=Mother of |?fatherOf=Father of I'm not sure if that would work with your data, but that would be the idea. Using the printout labels can make the graph a bit more readable to your more casual users as well. Hope this helps, Alex -- Alex M. Hendler ontolawgy™ LLC - connect . . . the . . . dots™ http://ontolawgy.com -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> To: 'Alex M. Hendler' <amh...@on...> Cc: sem...@li... Subject: RE: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 17:45:19 -0400 Alex, Thanks so much for the help. By the way, I am interested in your website that you listed in your sig. I'll have to learn more and check it out. I also like how you have the RDF logo and it gives a rdf output for the page. I guess it's just for the page. Question 1) Exactly what is meant by pruning? Forgive my ignorance, said with embarrassment. 2) Someone mentioned that the #ask parser function is using SPARQL but I haven't been able to get a better feel for how it is doing this based on the structure. You need first the Select for what you want to display and then you want a number of triple statements that each bind certain values to the variables to produce an output. For genealogy the SPARQL would be somewhat depending on how far back you want to go. You have first a name to start with and then you want the property father and the object of that triple, along with the same but for mother. Then each of father and mother become the subject for the next statements. Does that sound right? It's like we want SPARQL to act recursively for a certain number of generations. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: http://whealton.info/w/ http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Alex M. Hendler [mailto:amh...@on...] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:34 PM To: Bruce Whealton Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Bruce, I would check several things: 1) What are the permissions on your images/graphviz directory on the server? (This is in your installation directory, possibly /var/www/w) Your web server user must have read and write permissions in this directory. On Debian/Ubuntu, the web server user name is www-data. I'm not sure what it is on RHEL/CentOS, but to do this, I would go to your mediawiki installation directory, then run something like "sudo chown -R {webserverusername} images/graphviz; sudo chmod -R 755 images/graphviz" 2) You should carefully review how you have called the GraphViz and SRF extensions in LocalSettings.php. I have found (at least with SMW 1.5.6 and compatible versions of SRF and GraphViz) that the default method of adding "graph" to SRF formats does not work (at least not for me; this may have been fixed in more recent versions). 3) What are your "pruning" and "naming" settings? Based on the HTML output of your page, it looks like you are using the simple page graph naming option, which I have found to be buggy, in that unless you change the name of the page, the very first graph you generate will forever be the graph on that page. For what it's worth, here is how I typically configure GraphViz and SRF in LocalSettings.php, AFTER the SRF call and BEFORE the enableSemantics call: #GraphViz require_once("extensions/GraphViz/GraphViz.php"); /*Find the following by running "which dot", then removing "dot" from the end of that path*/ $wgGraphVizSettings->execPath = "/usr/bin/"; $wgGraphVizSettings->MscgenPath = "/usr/bin/"; #SRF query output array - cannot seem to add new formats via array here #$srfgFormats = array( 'skstable', 'exhibit', 'icalendar', 'vcard', 'calendar', 'eventline', 'timeline', 'outline', 'gallery', 'jqplotbar', 'jqplotpie', 'sum', 'average', 'min', 'max', 'graph', 'process', ); #Adding array elements individually works, though... $srfgFormats[] = 'graph'; $srfgFormats[] = 'process'; #GraphViz pruning /* Using the sha1 setting seems to keep the graph current on each page save */ $wgGraphVizSettings->named = "sha1"; /*Pruning keeps the extension from gobbling disk space */ $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneEnabled = "true"; $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneStrategy = "filenumber"; /*The following value is VERY low; again, set for a real-time system; probably not appropriate for a public wiki with lots of users*/ $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneValue = "10"; $wgGraphVizSettings->pruneAmount = "0.2"; The default image settings seem to work for my purposes. Finding these settings took a bit of fiddling, but they seem to work for me. Note that I use these settings in a real-time environment on a dedicated server with frequent major semantic changes. You may want to adjust the pruneValue and pruneAmount to be appropriate for your system capabilities and traffic. Hope this helps, Alex -- Alex M. Hendler ontolawgy™ LLC - connect . . . the . . . dots™ http://ontolawgy.com ----Original Message----- From: Dan Bolser <dan...@gm...> To: Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 10:55:23 +0100 Your example is bad, because it's cluttered with other bits of information. Try making a clean example, with just a few links, and try it on a public wiki where you know graphviz is installed (not sure where to be honest, which is a bit of a clue as to the status of the code). I see a broken link to a graph image, which is an important clue. Please check the server logs and see what error messages may be there. Yeah, I agree more information on the format would be good, including how properties are passed to graphviz. By putting individual formats on sub pages of the extension page, we loose the usual place to put examples and lists of wikis using the 'extension', etc. Once you get the thing working by debugging the broken image link, please work on the documentation page to add more examples, more descriptions and links. In the meantime, you can look at this extension: http://semanticgraph.sourceforge.net/ What we really need is a decent JS graphing 'framework', and a transparent way to pass the results of #ask to such formats. See also: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Result_Formats-_Automatically_transforming_structured_data_into_useful_output_formats.pdf Cheers, Dan. On 6 September 2011 23:08, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > Dan, > Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the > features that exist? > Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one > example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there should > only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the > example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit > within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data is > in the wiki that matches the query. > > I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain > that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path > to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was > getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. > The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ > Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the > code that I used. > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM > To: Bruce Whealton > Cc: sem...@li... > Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats > > The documentation looks pretty good to me : > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats > > What are you having trouble with? > > > As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info > on general debugging: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug > > > HTH, > Dan. > > On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> > wrote: >> So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the >> extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something > in >> the documentation though. >> The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly > small. >> I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed > instructions >> on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. >> I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a >> table before I added the option to support the graph format. >> Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result > formats >> I might want to try and how they are configured? >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >> http://whealton.info/w/ >> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >> price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you >> download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-user mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Using storage to extend the benefits of virtualization and iSCSI Virtualization increases hardware utilization and delivers a new level of agility. Learn what those decisions are and how to modernize your storage and backup environments for virtualization. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfnl/114/51434361/ _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-user mailing list Sem...@li... https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user |
From: Bruce W. <br...@fu...> - 2011-09-07 21:50:18
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Dan, How would I change the #ask parser function to get just a few links? When you say work on the documentation page, you mean the front page where I explain for my visitors and for more examples, maybe I want to split things up into more than one page. Please see my note about SPARQL also. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: http://whealton.info/w/ http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -----Original Message----- From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:55 AM To: Bruce Whealton Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats Your example is bad, because it's cluttered with other bits of information. Try making a clean example, with just a few links, and try it on a public wiki where you know graphviz is installed (not sure where to be honest, which is a bit of a clue as to the status of the code). I see a broken link to a graph image, which is an important clue. Please check the server logs and see what error messages may be there. Yeah, I agree more information on the format would be good, including how properties are passed to graphviz. By putting individual formats on sub pages of the extension page, we loose the usual place to put examples and lists of wikis using the 'extension', etc. Once you get the thing working by debugging the broken image link, please work on the documentation page to add more examples, more descriptions and links. In the meantime, you can look at this extension: http://semanticgraph.sourceforge.net/ What we really need is a decent JS graphing 'framework', and a transparent way to pass the results of #ask to such formats. See also: http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Result_Formats-_Automa tically_transforming_structured_data_into_useful_output_formats.pdf Cheers, Dan. On 6 September 2011 23:08, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > Dan, > Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the > features that exist? > Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one > example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there should > only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the > example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit > within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data is > in the wiki that matches the query. > > I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain > that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path > to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was > getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. > The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ > Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the > code that I used. > Thanks, > Bruce > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM > To: Bruce Whealton > Cc: sem...@li... > Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats > > The documentation looks pretty good to me : > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats > > What are you having trouble with? > > > As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info > on general debugging: > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug > > > HTH, > Dan. > > On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> > wrote: >> So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the >> extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something > in >> the documentation though. >> The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly > small. >> I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed > instructions >> on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. >> I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a >> table before I added the option to support the graph format. >> Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result > formats >> I might want to try and how they are configured? >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >> http://whealton.info/w/ >> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >> Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! >> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >> price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you >> download Logger. 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From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-09-09 11:35:23
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On 7 September 2011 22:50, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> wrote: > Dan, > How would I change the #ask parser function to get just a few links? Read the #ask documentation: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Inline_queries > When you say work on the documentation page, you mean the front page where I > explain for my visitors and for more examples, maybe I want to split things > up into more than one page. No, I mean the SMW SRF documentation. You should feel free to improve that. > Please see my note about SPARQL also. SPARQL support is currently experimental and complex. Don't worry about that. > Thanks, > Bruce HTH, Dan. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs > http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development > FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf > Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: > http://whealton.info/w/ > http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data > http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ > Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 5:55 AM > To: Bruce Whealton > Cc: sem...@li... > Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats > > Your example is bad, because it's cluttered with other bits of > information. Try making a clean example, with just a few links, and > try it on a public wiki where you know graphviz is installed (not sure > where to be honest, which is a bit of a clue as to the status of the > code). > > I see a broken link to a graph image, which is an important clue. > Please check the server logs and see what error messages may be there. > > Yeah, I agree more information on the format would be good, including > how properties are passed to graphviz. By putting individual formats > on sub pages of the extension page, we loose the usual place to put > examples and lists of wikis using the 'extension', etc. > > Once you get the thing working by debugging the broken image link, > please work on the documentation page to add more examples, more > descriptions and links. > > In the meantime, you can look at this extension: > http://semanticgraph.sourceforge.net/ > > > What we really need is a decent JS graphing 'framework', and a > transparent way to pass the results of #ask to such formats. See also: > http://wikimania2010.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Semantic_Result_Formats-_Automa > tically_transforming_structured_data_into_useful_output_formats.pdf > > > Cheers, > Dan. > > On 6 September 2011 23:08, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> > wrote: >> Dan, >> Glad you asked... You don't find that page a bit "brief" for all the >> features that exist? >> Even when you click on the Graph link you go to another page that has one >> example on it. It's not clear whether or not, for this to work there > should >> only be two values being displayed to create the graph. Graph size in the >> example is 10,10 - 10 what? How can one be sure that the graph, will fit >> within any particular dimensions. I mean it will depend on how much data > is >> in the wiki that matches the query. >> >> I think you helped me install the GraphViz on the server and I was certain >> that I added graph as one of the format types, and I have the correct path >> to the GraphViz installation. Before I had that installed right, I was >> getting an error, now I don't get errors but I also don't see any graph. >> The site is here: http://whealton.info/w/ >> Just below the table result format is the graph format, so you can see the >> code that I used. >> Thanks, >> Bruce >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >> http://whealton.info/w/ >> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dan Bolser [mailto:dan...@gm...] >> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 11:27 AM >> To: Bruce Whealton >> Cc: sem...@li... >> Subject: Re: [Semediawiki-user] Semantic Results Formats >> >> The documentation looks pretty good to me : >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Result_Formats >> >> What are you having trouble with? >> >> >> As for your missing graph, what do the server logs say? Here is info >> on general debugging: >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:How_to_debug >> >> >> HTH, >> Dan. >> >> On 6 September 2011 00:42, Bruce Whealton <br...@fu...> >> wrote: >>> So, I finally got the GraphWiz installed on the server and setup the >>> extension so that it knows where to find it. I must be missing something >> in >>> the documentation though. >>> The documentation pages for Semantic Results Formats are surprisingly >> small. >>> I copied an example as is because I couldn't find the detailed >> instructions >>> on what the different values mean... the different configuration options. >>> I'm not getting the graph. It was previously defaulting to displaying a >>> table before I added the option to support the graph format. >>> Can someone tell me where I can find more details? Different result >> formats >>> I might want to try and how they are configured? >>> Thanks, >>> Bruce >>> >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> Bruce Whealton, Owner Future Wave Designs >>> http://FutureWaveDesigns.com (Web Design/Web Development >>> FOAF: http://whealton.info/BruceWhealtonJr/foaf.rdf >>> Please join the following genealogy site for sharing and collaborating: >>> http://whealton.info/w/ >>> http://whealton.info/Genealogy/urllist.html - list of genealogy data >>> http://futurewavedesigns.com/wordpress/ >>> Web Technology wiki: http://futurewavedesigns.com/w/ >>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >>> Special Offer -- Download ArcSight Logger for FREE! >>> Finally, a world-class log management solution at an even better >>> price-free! And you'll get a free "Love Thy Logs" t-shirt when you >>> download Logger. Secure your free ArcSight Logger TODAY! >>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/arcsisghtdev2dev >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-user mailing list >>> Sem...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user >>> >> >> > > |