From: DeRosa, F. <DER...@ba...> - 2012-11-20 23:47:44
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Hi, my name is Frank and I fairly new Semantic MediaWiki developer. I would appreciate help with designing the interface for some semantic forms and a varied audience of users. My setup includes MediaWiki 1.15, SMW 1.5.6, and Semantic Forms 2.3.2. I understand that these versions may limit my options. Upgrades may be possible. These are the only versions I have used, so please bear with me if I am out of date. My forms will be collecting multiple values for properties. I've started with the basic method, fields that look like this: {{{field|FacilityEvents|input type=textarea|autogrow|rows=4|cols=74|property=Hosted|delimiter=;}}} It works - no complaints there. Here's how I am looking to improve it: * Suggestions: I tried using the "values from category=" attribute in the field tag and it still doesn't suggest values. I assume this is a limitation of the textarea. This is important as I'd like to avoiding typos and other errors of entry and save keystrokes on long names which are already in the wiki. * Simplicity of use: semicolon delimiters are easy enough for me, but my non-technical users may happily separate values with line breaks. Instructions will be provided but I'm looking to user-proof this aspect. * Ease of use for lots of data entry. Using a textarea is about as easy as it gets, but if other features get added (like suggestions) I realize I may have to sacrifice this ultra-simple method. I'm open to suggestions, extensions (off the shelf or custom), JavaScript/jQuery or most other alternatives. I'm happy to look at resources or examples in the wild or anything else. User participation and satisfaction is key on this project. To collect lots of good data, it's worth it to invest in the best UI that I can muster. Thanks to everyone for the amazing tools you have developed and the support given on this mailing list. Thanks again - your help is appreciated! Frank DeRosa |
From: Yaron K. <ya...@wi...> - 2012-11-21 00:15:40
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Hi Frank, You should definitely upgrade all your software. But to answer your specific questions: - for suggestions/autocompletion, you should change your input type to "textarea with autocomplete". - for having newlines as delimiters, just set "delimiter=\n". -Yaron On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:10 PM, DeRosa, Frank <DER...@ba...>wrote: > Hi, my name is Frank and I fairly new Semantic MediaWiki developer. I > would appreciate help with designing the interface for some semantic forms > and a varied audience of users. My setup includes MediaWiki 1.15, SMW > 1.5.6, and Semantic Forms 2.3.2. I understand that these versions may > limit my options. Upgrades may be possible. These are the only versions I > have used, so please bear with me if I am out of date.**** > > ** ** > > My forms will be collecting multiple values for properties. I’ve started > with the basic method, fields that look like this:**** > > {{{field|FacilityEvents|input > type=textarea|autogrow|rows=4|cols=74|property=Hosted|delimiter=;}}}**** > > It works – no complaints there. Here’s how I am looking to improve it:*** > * > > ** ** > > **· **Suggestions: I tried using the “values from category=” > attribute in the field tag and it still doesn’t suggest values. I assume > this is a limitation of the textarea. This is important as I’d like to > avoiding typos and other errors of entry and save keystrokes on long names > which are already in the wiki.**** > > **· **Simplicity of use: semicolon delimiters are easy enough for > me, but my non-technical users may happily separate values with line > breaks. Instructions will be provided but I’m looking to user-proof this > aspect.**** > > **· **Ease of use for lots of data entry. Using a textarea is > about as easy as it gets, but if other features get added (like > suggestions) I realize I may have to sacrifice this ultra-simple method.** > ** > > ** ** > > I’m open to suggestions, extensions (off the shelf or custom), > JavaScript/jQuery or most other alternatives. I’m happy to look at > resources or examples in the wild or anything else. User participation and > satisfaction is key on this project. To collect lots of good data, it’s > worth it to invest in the best UI that I can muster.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks to everyone for the amazing tools you have developed and the > support given on this mailing list.**** > > ** ** > > Thanks again – your help is appreciated!**** > > Frank DeRosa**** > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single > web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, > SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. > Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > -- WikiWorks · MediaWiki Consulting · http://wikiworks.com |
From: DeRosa, F. <DER...@ba...> - 2012-11-22 01:10:20
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Thank you, "textarea with autocomplete" has definitely improved my situation. I'm not sure how I missed it in the documents - I consult that page regularly. I actually don't want to go with linefeeds for delimiters because a long list will make the form look even longer that it is... and it's not a short form. I also plan to include a preview near the input so users can see what pages exist and which will be redlinked. This should help insure that the users have specified what they think they have. Thanks again. Any other thoughts on making my interface slick, pleasant and powerful are appreciated. Thanks, Frank From: ya...@gm... [mailto:ya...@gm...] On Behalf Of Yaron Koren Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:16 PM To: DeRosa, Frank Cc: sem...@li... Subject: Re: [SMW-devel] Optimizing the Semantic Forms UI Hi Frank, You should definitely upgrade all your software. But to answer your specific questions: - for suggestions/autocompletion, you should change your input type to "textarea with autocomplete". - for having newlines as delimiters, just set "delimiter=\n". -Yaron On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:10 PM, DeRosa, Frank <DER...@ba...<mailto:DER...@ba...>> wrote: Hi, my name is Frank and I fairly new Semantic MediaWiki developer. I would appreciate help with designing the interface for some semantic forms and a varied audience of users. My setup includes MediaWiki 1.15, SMW 1.5.6, and Semantic Forms 2.3.2. I understand that these versions may limit my options. Upgrades may be possible. These are the only versions I have used, so please bear with me if I am out of date. My forms will be collecting multiple values for properties. I've started with the basic method, fields that look like this: {{{field|FacilityEvents|input type=textarea|autogrow|rows=4|cols=74|property=Hosted|delimiter=;}}} It works - no complaints there. Here's how I am looking to improve it: * Suggestions: I tried using the "values from category=" attribute in the field tag and it still doesn't suggest values. I assume this is a limitation of the textarea. This is important as I'd like to avoiding typos and other errors of entry and save keystrokes on long names which are already in the wiki. * Simplicity of use: semicolon delimiters are easy enough for me, but my non-technical users may happily separate values with line breaks. Instructions will be provided but I'm looking to user-proof this aspect. * Ease of use for lots of data entry. Using a textarea is about as easy as it gets, but if other features get added (like suggestions) I realize I may have to sacrifice this ultra-simple method. I'm open to suggestions, extensions (off the shelf or custom), JavaScript/jQuery or most other alternatives. I'm happy to look at resources or examples in the wild or anything else. User participation and satisfaction is key on this project. To collect lots of good data, it's worth it to invest in the best UI that I can muster. Thanks to everyone for the amazing tools you have developed and the support given on this mailing list. Thanks again - your help is appreciated! Frank DeRosa ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov _______________________________________________ Semediawiki-devel mailing list Sem...@li...<mailto:Sem...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- WikiWorks * MediaWiki Consulting * http://wikiworks.com |