From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-05-05 15:00:10
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I just had this report from a MW maintainer: I've already got SyntaxHighlight_GeSHi installed and working. For the other extensions, I've got an interesting conundrum: to install openid, I have to install a package called mediawiki-extensions-base, but to install the semantic wiki extension, I have to install mediawiki-extensions, which can't be installed at the same time as mediawiki-extensions-base, so it looks like it's one or the other. Is John Ferlito still maintaining mediawiki-semediawiki? Is it possible to merge the functionality of mediawiki-extensions-base and mediawiki-extensions? Anyone know if these packages are being kept up to date? Cheers, Dan. On 7 July 2008 08:38, Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> wrote: > Semantic MediaWiki is now also available as a package in the Debian Linux > distribution [1]. Thanks to John Ferlito for taking the effort of creating and > maintaining the package. The package currently does not execute any > installation scripts, but merely installs the source files. So the > instructions in INSTALL still must be followed manually. > > From Debain, SMW may also find its way into other standard Linux distributions > (e.g. Ubuntu is based on Debian). > > Cheers, > > Markus > > > [1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/mediawiki-semediawiki > > -- > Markus Krötzsch > Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org > http://korrekt.org ma...@se... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW! > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project, > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08 > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > |
From: Jeroen De D. <jer...@gm...> - 2011-05-05 15:12:23
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Hey, I actually had a look at the state of the packages a bit over a week back, and they are seriously outdated. So much that you really can't call it maintained any more. I poked some MW devs on the IRC about this, and basically no one cares enough to fix the issue, and instead just recommend to everyone not to use these packages. In any case, it's ridiculous that you can't install openId and SMW at the same time, there is no reason why this should be the case. Bad packages are bad... Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- |
From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-05-05 15:21:00
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On 5 May 2011 16:11, Jeroen De Dauw <jer...@gm...> wrote: > Hey, > > I actually had a look at the state of the packages a bit over a week back, > and they are seriously outdated. So much that you really can't call it > maintained any more. I poked some MW devs on the IRC about this, and > basically no one cares enough to fix the issue, and instead just recommend > to everyone not to use these packages. > > In any case, it's ridiculous that you can't install openId and SMW at the > same time, there is no reason why this should be the case. Bad packages are > bad... Yeah, its a shame. The presence of an outdated and unloved package is almost worse than no package at all, however, lets not give up hope on John Ferlito coming to our rescue :-D For sysadmins there is a huge win when something is packaged. The deps for the packages involved here just seem a bit snarled up, and should be easy enough to resolve, but it seems package maintenance is a thankless task. > Cheers > > -- > Jeroen De Dauw > http://www.bn2vs.com > Don't panic. Don't be evil. > -- > |
From: Jeroen De D. <jer...@gm...> - 2011-05-05 15:34:10
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Hey, (removed the user list from cc, as this is a dev topic) > The presence of an outdated and unloved package is almost worse than no package at all I'd argue it IS worse. > For sysadmins there is a huge win when something is packaged. Definitely. > lets not give up hope on John Ferlito coming to our rescue :-D > The deps for the packages involved here just seem a bit snarled up, and should be easy enough to resolve, but it seems package maintenance is a thankless task. If the current mess gets fixed, that'd be awesome. If someone then takes the time to show me how to update these packages, I'm willing to maintain them, esp for SMW and related extensions. Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. -- |
From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-05-05 15:57:55
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On 5 May 2011 16:33, Jeroen De Dauw <jer...@gm...> wrote: > Hey, > > (removed the user list from cc, as this is a dev topic) > >> The presence of an outdated and unloved package is almost worse than no >> package at all > > I'd argue it IS worse. > >> For sysadmins there is a huge win when something is packaged. > > Definitely. > >> lets not give up hope on John Ferlito coming to our rescue :-D >> The deps for the packages involved here just seem a bit snarled up, and >> should be easy enough to resolve, but it seems package maintenance is a >> thankless task. > > If the current mess gets fixed, that'd be awesome. If someone then takes the > time to show me how to update these packages, I'm willing to maintain them, > esp for SMW and related extensions. That's a good offer! I'll look into it and send you the details :-D > Cheers > > -- > Jeroen De Dauw > http://www.bn2vs.com > Don't panic. Don't be evil. > -- > |
From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-05-06 09:52:11
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On 5 May 2011 16:33, Jeroen De Dauw <jer...@gm...> wrote: > If the current mess gets fixed, that'd be awesome. If someone then takes the > time to show me how to update these packages, I'm willing to maintain them, > esp for SMW and related extensions. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem simple (what is?). The manual suggests that the following policy guide is a 'must read', * http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ And additionally these two too: * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ * http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ Ignoring all that, I've downloaded the set of existing 'mediawiki-extensions' packages so that we can just learn by example. I've ignored mediawiki-math, because it has some nasty looking architecture dependencies that I'd rather not try to understand yet. I've also ignored mediawiki-semediawiki, just to get the ball rolling by focusing on simple extensions. I've created a repo where we can coordinate changes on these files here: https://github.com/dbolser/Debian-MediaWiki-Extensions Feel free to fork, or I can add you as a collaborator. Looking at these files, it now seems relatively straightforward to update the extension and it's deps. Then it's a (simple?) matter of 're-packaging' and submitting them to Debian (/me needs to read how). Initially, I'd suggest that we drop the 'mediawiki-extensions' meta-package, and rename all 'extensions' to match the convention established by the existing packages, i.e. mediawiki-semediawiki should become mediawiki-extensions-smw, or similar. I'll have a look at fixing the dependency problems and I'll let you know. Cheers, Dan. > Cheers > > -- > Jeroen De Dauw > http://www.bn2vs.com > Don't panic. Don't be evil. > -- > |
From: Dan B. <dan...@gm...> - 2011-05-08 00:10:48
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Thanks for this info John. Is there a simple script / protocol to package up a MW extension? Before I dive into the docs, a pointer to the relevant section for these cases would be really helpfull. Cheers, Dan. On 7 May 2011 08:52, John Ferlito <jo...@in...> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm no longer maintaining this package. If you check the relevant bug > at > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=560773 > > Another DD has already stated their ntention to adopt it. Probably > worth chasing him. > > Cheers, > John > > On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 04:20:50PM +0100, Dan Bolser wrote: >> On 5 May 2011 16:11, Jeroen De Dauw <jer...@gm...> wrote: >> > Hey, >> > >> > I actually had a look at the state of the packages a bit over a week back, >> > and they are seriously outdated. So much that you really can't call it >> > maintained any more. I poked some MW devs on the IRC about this, and >> > basically no one cares enough to fix the issue, and instead just recommend >> > to everyone not to use these packages. >> > >> > In any case, it's ridiculous that you can't install openId and SMW at the >> > same time, there is no reason why this should be the case. Bad packages are >> > bad... >> >> Yeah, its a shame. The presence of an outdated and unloved package is >> almost worse than no package at all, however, lets not give up hope on >> John Ferlito coming to our rescue :-D >> >> For sysadmins there is a huge win when something is packaged. >> >> The deps for the packages involved here just seem a bit snarled up, >> and should be easy enough to resolve, but it seems package maintenance >> is a thankless task. >> >> >> > Cheers >> > >> > -- >> > Jeroen De Dauw >> > http://www.bn2vs.com >> > Don't panic. Don't be evil. >> > -- >> > > > -- > John > Blog http://www.inodes.org > LCA2012 http://lcaunderthestars.org.au > |