From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2008-09-07 17:45:08
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Hi, we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. The new version introduces a number of new features and general improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions [1]. As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for browsing semantic data: * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on the wiki page. With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old behaviour if desired. Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been updated to the new version. Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! Cheers, Markus [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation_1.3 [2] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMW_1.3 [3] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Concept_caching -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org ma...@se... |
From: Temlakos <tem...@gm...> - 2008-09-08 02:47:12
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Markus: There's some bug in here, and I don't know where to begin to look for it. When I install SMW 1.3, the pages Special:Specialpages and Special:Version refuse to run. All I get is a total blank. Turning off the toolbox link to Special:Browse does /not/ help. I can't have this, so I've rolled back to SMW 1.2.1. This is a showstopper. Temlakos Markus Krötzsch wrote: > Hi, > > we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. The > new version introduces a number of new features and general improvements. > Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it is still > recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions [1]. > > As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for > browsing semantic data: > > * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. > * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows you to > jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few results. > * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to categories. Result > paging allows to show even large numbers of results on the wiki page. > > With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a Factbox > by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all property data. > Both functions can be configured to achieve the old behaviour if desired. > > Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced to > speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. > > As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and > further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki > project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been > updated to the new version. > > Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! > > > Cheers, > > Markus > > [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation_1.3 > [2] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMW_1.3 > [3] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Concept_caching > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2008-09-08 11:04:46
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On Montag, 8. September 2008, Temlakos wrote: > Markus: > > There's some bug in here, and I don't know where to begin to look for it. > > When I install SMW 1.3, the pages Special:Specialpages and > Special:Version refuse to run. All I get is a total blank. Turning off > the toolbox link to Special:Browse does /not/ help. > > I can't have this, so I've rolled back to SMW 1.2.1. This is a showstopper. I cannot reproduce this on any of our wikis, which currently run on various servers using MediaWiki 1.11.0, 1.12.0, and 1.14SVN. Which version of MW do you use? Can you obtain any further information? Which version of MW are you using? Are any other SMW extensions installed? Can anybody else observe this behaviour? Best regards, Markus > > Temlakos > > Markus Krötzsch wrote: > > Hi, > > > > we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. > > The new version introduces a number of new features and general > > improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it > > is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions > > [1]. > > > > As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for > > browsing semantic data: > > > > * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. > > * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows > > you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few > > results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to > > categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on > > the wiki page. > > > > With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a > > Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all > > property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old > > behaviour if desired. > > > > Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced > > to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. > > > > As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and > > further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki > > project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been > > updated to the new version. > > > > Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Markus > > > > [1] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation_1.3 > > [2] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/SMW_1.3 > > [3] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Concept_caching > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > > challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & > > win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event > > anywhere in the world > > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Semediawiki-user mailing list > > Sem...@li... > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org ma...@se... |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-08 06:08:49
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> Hi, > > we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. The > new version introduces a number of new features and general improvements. > Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it is still > recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions [1]. > > As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for > browsing semantic data: > > * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. > * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows you to > jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few results. > * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to categories. Result > paging allows to show even large numbers of results on the wiki page. > > With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a Factbox > by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all property data. > Both functions can be configured to achieve the old behaviour if desired. > > Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced to > speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. > > As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and > further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki > project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been > updated to the new version. > > Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! > > > Cheers, > > Markus > > Hi Markus, Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page creation time" and "page modification time" in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires reworking of class model of properties. Thank you for a great efforts! Dmitriy |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2008-09-08 16:12:34
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On Montag, 8. September 2008, CNIT wrote: > > Hi, > > > > we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. > > The new version introduces a number of new features and general > > improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it > > is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions > > [1]. > > > > As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for > > browsing semantic data: > > > > * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. > > * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows > > you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few > > results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to > > categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on > > the wiki page. > > > > With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a > > Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all > > property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old > > behaviour if desired. > > > > Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced > > to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. > > > > As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and > > further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki > > project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been > > updated to the new version. > > > > Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Markus > > Hi Markus, > Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page > creation time" and "page modification time" > in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires > reworking of class model of properties. Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another list of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release schedule. > Thank you for a great efforts! Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described for SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... Markus > Dmitriy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere > in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org ma...@se... |
From: Yaron K. <ya...@gm...> - 2008-09-08 16:39:26
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Temlakos, My guess is that the blank pages are caused by a PHP setting that causes a blank page to be shown if any error is encountered, instead of the error message itself. This is the "error_reporting" setting, which is described here: http://us.php.net/error_reporting If you have permission, you should change the value of it, at least temporarily, to "E_ALL" in your php.ini file. Otherwise, I believe you can change it within PHP code itself (maybe in your LocalSettings.php file), as described in that help page. -Yaron On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...> wrote: > On Montag, 8. September 2008, CNIT wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. >> > The new version introduces a number of new features and general >> > improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it >> > is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions >> > [1]. >> > >> > As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for >> > browsing semantic data: >> > >> > * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. >> > * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows >> > you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few >> > results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to >> > categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on >> > the wiki page. >> > >> > With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a >> > Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all >> > property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old >> > behaviour if desired. >> > >> > Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced >> > to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. >> > >> > As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and >> > further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki >> > project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been >> > updated to the new version. >> > >> > Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! >> > >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Markus >> >> Hi Markus, >> Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page >> creation time" and "page modification time" >> in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires >> reworking of class model of properties. > > Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another list > of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release schedule. > >> Thank you for a great efforts! > > Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described for > SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... > > Markus > > >> Dmitriy >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >> great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere >> in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > > > -- > Markus Krötzsch > Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org > http://korrekt.org ma...@se... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel > > |
From: Temlakos <tem...@gm...> - 2008-09-08 19:06:11
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Gentlemen: All right, I now have a clue. I got it by mocking up my site on my own machine and then installing only the version of SMW 1.3 that you released. That loaded without a problem. Now as most of you remember, I have a special data type, called Historical Date (SMW_DV_HxDate.php). I have in the past used it by modifying the following files to make sure to call it: includes/SMW_DataValueFactory.php includes/SMW_QP_Timeline.php includes/SMW_LanguageXx.php, where Xx is either De, En, Es, Fr, He, It, Nl, Pl, Ru, Sk, or Zh. (SMW_LanguageZh.php is a file I made up by copying SMW_LanguageZh_tw.php to that title.) Now one of two things is happening: 1. The file SMW_DV_HxDate.php is too large, or else 2. Somehow I missed a parenthesis or a semicolon in my "splices." The file SMW_DV_HxDate.php has not changed from SMW_1.2.1 to SMW_1.3. Either way, I have always managed to splice that datatype into previous versions of SMW. Why I cannot do that with SMW 1.3, I'm now trying to figure out. I would very much like to use SMW_1.3, if for no other reason than that the Browse page is much easier to read, and if the toolbox can carry a link to the Browse page, that saves me displaying a Factbox. Does any custom data type have a file-size limit? I don't mind telling you, SMW_Dx_HxDate.php is very large--41,650 bytes to be exact. Temlakos Yaron Koren wrote: > Temlakos, > > My guess is that the blank pages are caused by a PHP setting that > causes a blank page to be shown if any error is encountered, instead > of the error message itself. This is the "error_reporting" setting, > which is described here: > > http://us.php.net/error_reporting > > If you have permission, you should change the value of it, at least > temporarily, to "E_ALL" in your php.ini file. Otherwise, I believe you > can change it within PHP code itself (maybe in your LocalSettings.php > file), as described in that help page. > > -Yaron > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch > <ma...@se...> wrote: > >> On Montag, 8. September 2008, CNIT wrote: >> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. >>>> The new version introduces a number of new features and general >>>> improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it >>>> is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions >>>> [1]. >>>> >>>> As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for >>>> browsing semantic data: >>>> >>>> * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. >>>> * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows >>>> you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few >>>> results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to >>>> categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on >>>> the wiki page. >>>> >>>> With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a >>>> Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all >>>> property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old >>>> behaviour if desired. >>>> >>>> Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced >>>> to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. >>>> >>>> As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and >>>> further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki >>>> project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been >>>> updated to the new version. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>> Hi Markus, >>> Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page >>> creation time" and "page modification time" >>> in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires >>> reworking of class model of properties. >>> >> Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another list >> of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release schedule. >> >> >>> Thank you for a great efforts! >>> >> Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described for >> SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... >> >> Markus >> >> >> >>> Dmitriy >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >>> great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere >>> in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> Sem...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >>> >> >> -- >> Markus Krötzsch >> Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org >> http://korrekt.org ma...@se... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > |
From: Temlakos <tem...@gm...> - 2008-09-08 22:06:13
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Gentlemen: All right, I found the problem. Or at least, I think I have. You will recall that the pages Special:Specialpages and Special:Version refused to run. That's because I had some kind of punctuation mark out of balance in my key language-support files. I rebuilt those, one line at a time. Then I tried it on a server setup that I have on my personal machine, and it works. Hopefully my bureaucrat-in-chief will allow me to load the new tarball onto the production server, and then perhaps I can announce my wiki as using SMW 1.3. Temlakos Yaron Koren wrote: > Temlakos, > > My guess is that the blank pages are caused by a PHP setting that > causes a blank page to be shown if any error is encountered, instead > of the error message itself. This is the "error_reporting" setting, > which is described here: > > http://us.php.net/error_reporting > > If you have permission, you should change the value of it, at least > temporarily, to "E_ALL" in your php.ini file. Otherwise, I believe you > can change it within PHP code itself (maybe in your LocalSettings.php > file), as described in that help page. > > -Yaron > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch > <ma...@se...> wrote: > >> On Montag, 8. September 2008, CNIT wrote: >> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. >>>> The new version introduces a number of new features and general >>>> improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it >>>> is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions >>>> [1]. >>>> >>>> As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for >>>> browsing semantic data: >>>> >>>> * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. >>>> * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows >>>> you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few >>>> results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to >>>> categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on >>>> the wiki page. >>>> >>>> With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a >>>> Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all >>>> property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old >>>> behaviour if desired. >>>> >>>> Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced >>>> to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. >>>> >>>> As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and >>>> further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki >>>> project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been >>>> updated to the new version. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>> Hi Markus, >>> Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page >>> creation time" and "page modification time" >>> in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires >>> reworking of class model of properties. >>> >> Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another list >> of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release schedule. >> >> >>> Thank you for a great efforts! >>> >> Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described for >> SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... >> >> Markus >> >> >> >>> Dmitriy >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >>> great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere >>> in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> Sem...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >>> >> >> -- >> Markus Krötzsch >> Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org >> http://korrekt.org ma...@se... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-09 05:19:38
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> Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another list > of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release schedule. > > So it's not forgotten, I see.. >> Thank you for a great efforts! >> > > Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described for > SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... > I've updated from MW 1.12 to MW 1.13 few days ago and still fixing the problems with my own small extensions (skinned templates, access restrictions). And now I see that MW1.13.1 security fix is out. I will need also to install Sematic Forms and Sematic Calendar for another project. So, I'll install SMW 1.3 for sure, but a bit later (depending on how quickily I'll fix everything above). Maybe later today, maybe tomorrow (unsure). I haven't switched Storage engine yet, I'll wonder whether SMW 1.3 SMW_setup.php will do that automatically? (probably documented on the site, I will look at it). Dmitriy |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-11 05:24:14
Attachments:
SMW_Messages.php
SMW_LanguageRu.php
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Hi, Markus! I've finally installed SMW 1.3 with some troubles. I've had 1.2f (non-final) with old storage engine before. It wasn't 1.2 release but a pre-release. I've tried to switch storage engine as was mentioned in: http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation_1.2#Notes_on_Upgrading Since I run a farm, I didn't define $smwgDefaultStore in LocalSettings.php I've did an upgrade (for every SMW-using host): (2) Run php SMW_setup.php -b SMWSQLStore2 and follow its progress. (3) Run php SMW_refreshData.php -tpv -b SMWSQLStore2 and follow its progress. (4) Run php SMW_refreshData.php -v -b SMWSQLStore2 and follow its progress. Of course I have MW_INSTALL_PATH shell variable properly defined. According to messages it went fine. But, when I've removed $smwgDefaultStore variable from SMW_Settings.php, it throwed an error - something like "cannot create instance of class with empty name". So, I've put $smwgDefaultStore = 'SMWSQLStore2'; string to SMW_settings.php instead (also I've checked the same setting is used in SMW 1.3). Run the farm. All of the queries return empty results :-( I've tried SMW_setup.php --delete and SMW_setup.php and then different parameters of SMW_refreshData.php All of that didn't work for me with SMW 1.2f I've updated the source to SMW 1.3, run the same maintenance scripts - almost every query work now! Well, just almost. One template with many #ask queries, which runs at important site is broken. Trying to fix and found a problem: #ask format=count now returns not a pure numeric value but inside a container of <span></span>. So, when I use {{#ask: .... |format=count|}} in parser's {#expr: }} , the #expr returns "expression error: undefined keyword <span>", instead of numeric result :-( I was quickly searching through the code, but wasn't able to find where <span> output for format=count is generated yet. Probably you can fix it faster than me? Format "count" may be used in #expr computations and putting it's result into span wrapper is probably not a good idea. Also, updated Russian translation is attached. SMW_Messages.php is a kind of too huge file, imo. Dmitriy |
From: Temlakos <tem...@gm...> - 2008-09-08 18:47:20
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No errors are reported. All that happens is that Special:Specialpages and Special:Version come up blank. In the past, when that has happened, the fault has lain in an unbalanced parenthesis in some script. When I roll back to SMW 1.2.1, the problem disappears. Therefore the error is somewhere within SMW 1.3. I am using the following: MediaWiki 1.12.0 r33954) PHP 5.1.6 MySQL 5.0.22 And these extensions: CategoryTree version 2008-02-04 CheckUser Cite ConfirmAccount version 1.1 Replace Text version 0.1 GoogleSitemap version 0.0.5 Interwiki version 2008-01-11 EasyTimeline version 2008-02-19 EmbedVideo version 0.1.2 Inputbox ParserFunctions version 1.1.1 Bad-Behavior version 2.0.19 Newuserlog version 2008-02-08 As before, inserting the code "error_reporting(E_ALL);" into LocalSettings.php does nothing. Temlakos Yaron Koren wrote: > Temlakos, > > My guess is that the blank pages are caused by a PHP setting that > causes a blank page to be shown if any error is encountered, instead > of the error message itself. This is the "error_reporting" setting, > which is described here: > > http://us.php.net/error_reporting > > If you have permission, you should change the value of it, at least > temporarily, to "E_ALL" in your php.ini file. Otherwise, I believe you > can change it within PHP code itself (maybe in your LocalSettings.php > file), as described in that help page. > > -Yaron > > > On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch > <ma...@se...> wrote: > >> On Montag, 8. September 2008, CNIT wrote: >> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. >>>> The new version introduces a number of new features and general >>>> improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but it >>>> is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions >>>> [1]. >>>> >>>> As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for >>>> browsing semantic data: >>>> >>>> * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. >>>> * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows >>>> you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few >>>> results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to >>>> categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results on >>>> the wiki page. >>>> >>>> With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a >>>> Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all >>>> property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old >>>> behaviour if desired. >>>> >>>> Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been introduced >>>> to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. >>>> >>>> As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, and >>>> further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki >>>> project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely been >>>> updated to the new version. >>>> >>>> Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Markus >>>> >>> Hi Markus, >>> Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page >>> creation time" and "page modification time" >>> in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires >>> reworking of class model of properties. >>> >> Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another list >> of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release schedule. >> >> >>> Thank you for a great efforts! >>> >> Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described for >> SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... >> >> Markus >> >> >> >>> Dmitriy >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win >>> great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere >>> in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> Sem...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >>> >> >> -- >> Markus Krötzsch >> Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org >> http://korrekt.org ma...@se... >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge > Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great prizes > Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world > http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-user mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user > > |
From: Yaron K. <ya...@gm...> - 2008-09-08 18:56:08
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Well, my guess is that this problem will be either very difficult or impossible to resolve until either you can change the PHP error reporting on your site, or someone else who has error reporting on their site gets the same issue. Do you have access to your php.ini file? If not, I'd strongly recommend trying to convince whoever the administrator is on your server to change the error_reporting value in that file. -Yaron On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Temlakos <tem...@gm...> wrote: > No errors are reported. All that happens is that Special:Specialpages and > Special:Version come up blank. > > In the past, when that has happened, the fault has lain in an unbalanced > parenthesis in some script. > > When I roll back to SMW 1.2.1, the problem disappears. > > Therefore the error is somewhere within SMW 1.3. > > I am using the following: > > MediaWiki 1.12.0 r33954) > PHP 5.1.6 > MySQL 5.0.22 > > And these extensions: > > CategoryTree version 2008-02-04 > CheckUser > Cite > ConfirmAccount version 1.1 > Replace Text version 0.1 > GoogleSitemap version 0.0.5 > Interwiki version 2008-01-11 > EasyTimeline version 2008-02-19 > EmbedVideo version 0.1.2 > Inputbox > ParserFunctions version 1.1.1 > Bad-Behavior version 2.0.19 > Newuserlog version 2008-02-08 > > As before, inserting the code "error_reporting(E_ALL);" into > LocalSettings.php does nothing. > > Temlakos > > Yaron Koren wrote: >> >> Temlakos, >> >> My guess is that the blank pages are caused by a PHP setting that >> causes a blank page to be shown if any error is encountered, instead >> of the error message itself. This is the "error_reporting" setting, >> which is described here: >> >> http://us.php.net/error_reporting >> >> If you have permission, you should change the value of it, at least >> temporarily, to "E_ALL" in your php.ini file. Otherwise, I believe you >> can change it within PHP code itself (maybe in your LocalSettings.php >> file), as described in that help page. >> >> -Yaron >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Markus Krötzsch >> <ma...@se...> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Montag, 8. September 2008, CNIT wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> we are happy to announce the release of the new Semantic MediaWiki 1.3. >>>>> The new version introduces a number of new features and general >>>>> improvements. Upgrading from SMW 1.2 requires only little effort, but >>>>> it >>>>> is still recommended to read the installation and upgrade instructions >>>>> [1]. >>>>> >>>>> As detailed online [2], SMW 1.3 brings three different improvements for >>>>> browsing semantic data: >>>>> >>>>> * Special:Browse is more usable and more concise. >>>>> * Searching for property values now offers a "fuzzy" search that allows >>>>> you to jump to pages with "nearby" values when a search has only few >>>>> results. * Concept pages now offer a browsing mechanism similar to >>>>> categories. Result paging allows to show even large numbers of results >>>>> on >>>>> the wiki page. >>>>> >>>>> With the improvement of Special:Browse, SMW no longer will display a >>>>> Factbox by default but instead shows a toolbox link for displaying all >>>>> property data. Both functions can be configured to achieve the old >>>>> behaviour if desired. >>>>> >>>>> Moreover, a new mechanism for pre-computing concepts has been >>>>> introduced >>>>> to speed up this form of semantic queries even on very large wikis [3]. >>>>> >>>>> As usual, SMW 1.3 also closes a number of bugs with earlier versions, >>>>> and >>>>> further extends the language support of SMW (thanks to the BetaWiki >>>>> project!). The online documentation on this site has already largely >>>>> been >>>>> updated to the new version. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks to all users and contributors for supporting the project! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> Markus >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Markus, >>>> Is there any timeline shedule to implement built-in properties for "page >>>> creation time" and "page modification time" >>>> in SMW? I remember you was saying it's not so easy because requires >>>> reworking of class model of properties. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, I hope we can accomplish this change until 1.4. I will send another >>> list >>> of topics we will address for SMW 1.4, and on the expected release >>> schedule. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for a great efforts! >>>> >>> >>> Can I take from this that you do not have the problems Temlakos described >>> for >>> SMW 1.3? I wonder what affects his site ... >>> >>> Markus >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> Dmitriy >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>>> challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & >>>> win >>>> great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event >>>> anywhere >>>> in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>>> Sem...@li... >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Markus Krötzsch >>> Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org >>> http://korrekt.org ma...@se... >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >>> challenge >>> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >>> prizes >>> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >>> world >>> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Semediawiki-devel mailing list >>> Sem...@li... >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel >>> >>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's >> challenge >> Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win great >> prizes >> Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the >> world >> http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Semediawiki-user mailing list >> Sem...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-user >> >> > > |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-12 09:47:58
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Hi! Besides previous problem with {{#expr {{#ask ... format=count}} }} not being able to evaluate due to span tag in result of ask format=count, it also seems that english default keywords doesnt work anymore in queries, for example on my Russian wiki I can't query [[Category:Задания]], only [[Категории:Задания]] (local equivalent). This maillist has become suspiciousely silent recently. My previous report on SMW 1.3 didn't appear. Did something happen? Maybe I should switch to another list? Dmitriy |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2008-09-15 13:05:24
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On Freitag, 12. September 2008, CNIT wrote: > Hi! > Besides previous problem with {{#expr {{#ask ... format=count}} }} not > being able to evaluate > due to span tag in result of ask format=count, it also seems that > english default keywords doesnt > work anymore in queries, for example on my Russian wiki I can't query > [[Category:Задания]], > only [[Категории:Задания]] (local equivalent). > > This maillist has become suspiciousely silent recently. My previous > report on SMW 1.3 didn't appear. I think one of your mails was caught waiting for approval, maybe due to using another email address for sending. Denny and I were travelling with infrequent web access, hence the silence. Now that I am back, I will look at your problems as soon as possible. Filing a bug at Mediazilla would be helpful to make sure we do not forget about any issue if we cannot attend to it immediately. Thanks for your translation. I will update the SMW language files soon. The content of SMW_Messages.php in fact be edited online: see translatewiki.net for details on how to do that. This is hopefully much more convenient than editing the message file (and it does not have the extra delay of me uploading your translations). Markus > Did something happen? Maybe I should switch to another list? > Dmitriy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere > in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org ma...@se... |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-17 01:14:21
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Markus Krötzsch пишет: > Now that I am back, I will look at your problems as soon as possible. Filing a > bug at Mediazilla would be helpful to make sure we do not forget about any > issue if we cannot attend to it immediately. > Oops, sorry - the problem with span seems to was due to MW upgrade (I don't actually know why the template broke but now it's fixed). I've figured it out after looking at SMW 1.3 code not finding there any additional spans. Sorry. Strange glitch.. I have such occasional problems with MW sometimes. It's large and a bit complex. Dmitriy |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-15 23:58:54
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> I think one of your mails was caught waiting for approval, maybe due to using > another email address for sending. Denny and I were travelling with > infrequent web access, hence the silence. > > I see, ok. Due to suspicious silence I've checked korrekt.org and read you were riding these dangerous skateboards, I wouldn't risk so. Well, maybe I am too old, *sigh*. > Now that I am back, I will look at your problems as soon as possible. Filing a > bug at Mediazilla would be helpful to make sure we do not forget about any > issue if we cannot attend to it immediately. > > Thanks for your translation. I will update the SMW language files soon. The > content of SMW_Messages.php in fact be edited online: see translatewiki.net > for details on how to do that. This is hopefully much more convenient than > editing the message file (and it does not have the extra delay of me > uploading your translations). > > Hi, I've currently figured out and registered in translatewiki.net soon after my post, but haven't had the time to further translate. Now I'll try to incorporate my translations and add some more into the Betawiki, so there won't be need to import the file into SVN manually. I just didn't know the URL of the site and also it requires registration procedure. I also can live without English alternative keywords on my Russian wiki. My biggest concern now is a span tag in result of {{#ask ... |format=count}} query. Dmitriy |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2008-09-17 02:12:21
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On Dienstag, 16. September 2008, CNIT wrote: > > I think one of your mails was caught waiting for approval, maybe due to > > using another email address for sending. Denny and I were travelling with > > infrequent web access, hence the silence. > > I see, ok. Due to suspicious silence I've checked korrekt.org and read > you were riding these > dangerous skateboards, I wouldn't risk so. Well, maybe I am too old, > *sigh*. You are as old as you feel -- my father did quite well on his first ride on this board too. Of course, wearing a laptop might be useful for extra safety. > > > Now that I am back, I will look at your problems as soon as possible. > > Filing a bug at Mediazilla would be helpful to make sure we do not forget > > about any issue if we cannot attend to it immediately. > > > > Thanks for your translation. I will update the SMW language files soon. > > The content of SMW_Messages.php in fact be edited online: see > > translatewiki.net for details on how to do that. This is hopefully much > > more convenient than editing the message file (and it does not have the > > extra delay of me uploading your translations). > > Hi, > I've currently figured out and registered in translatewiki.net soon > after my post, but haven't had the time to > further translate. Now I'll try to incorporate my translations and add > some more into the Betawiki, > so there won't be need to import the file into SVN manually. Okay, great! I will then only upload the language file, as we currently have no way of editing those translations via translatewiki. Maybe some work-around solution such as a "fake" extension that only hosts those extra messages before they are converted into our files with some script may be a solution. > I just > didn't know the URL of the > site and also it requires registration procedure. The translations are automatically committed to SVN and are released without further checks (we couldn't check most of the languages even if we tried). So a registration is somewhat in order; it would be like anonymous software development otherwise ;-) > > I also can live without English alternative keywords on my Russian wiki. > My biggest concern now > is a span tag in result of {{#ask ... |format=count}} query. I checked that, but I did not get any such span on my local wiki when viewing its page source. Does it appear only in certain cases? You can still file all concerns you have in Mediazilla if you like. If they can be addressed then we have no reason to deny them, even if they are minor. Markus > Dmitriy > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's > challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK & win > great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere > in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100&url=/ > _______________________________________________ > Semediawiki-devel mailing list > Sem...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/semediawiki-devel -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org ma...@se... |
From: CNIT <cn...@un...> - 2008-09-17 02:28:12
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Markus Krötzsch пишет: > Okay, great! I will then only upload the language file, as we currently have > no way of editing those translations via translatewiki. Maybe some > work-around solution such as a "fake" extension that only hosts those extra > messages before they are converted into our files with some script may be a > solution. > > Ok, I've translated most of the non-translated messages with translatewiki. Except the "subproperties", to which I cannot find a good and short translation. But there are another translaters from Russian, of course. "Подсвойства" doesn't sounds good to me. > I checked that, but I did not get any such span on my local wiki when viewing > its page source. Does it appear only in certain cases? > > You can still file all concerns you have in Mediazilla if you like. If they > can be addressed then we have no reason to deny them, even if they are minor. > > I've upgraded both MW and SMW and one template broke, but I've thought that it can't be related to MW, because of heavy usage of #ask. It was wrong assumption. I also hasn't found any span output of format count in SMW code, sorry for too early report. The problem still looks mystical - appeared and disappeared. Ok, doesn't matter - now it works after a slight correction of template. Well, I am probably not a good enough coder to fully understand such large software as MW. No problem. Dmitriy |
From: Reinout v. S. <re...@gm...> - 2008-11-03 15:11:19
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Hi Markus, 2008/9/17 Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...>: >> > Thanks for your translation. I will update the SMW language files soon. >> > The content of SMW_Messages.php in fact be edited online: see >> > translatewiki.net for details on how to do that. This is hopefully much >> > more convenient than editing the message file (and it does not have the >> > extra delay of me uploading your translations). Siebrand, one of the guys who runs translatewiki.net, showed me that it's possible to have arbitrary wiki pages converted to messages in translatewiki. Would you consider putting the SMW manual there as well? regards, -- Reinout van Schouwen http://vanschouwen.info/ |
From: Markus K. <ma...@se...> - 2008-11-10 09:17:21
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On Montag, 3. November 2008, Reinout van Schouwen wrote: > Hi Markus, > > 2008/9/17 Markus Krötzsch <ma...@se...>: > >> > Thanks for your translation. I will update the SMW language files > >> > soon. The content of SMW_Messages.php in fact be edited online: see > >> > translatewiki.net for details on how to do that. This is hopefully > >> > much more convenient than editing the message file (and it does not > >> > have the extra delay of me uploading your translations). > > Siebrand, one of the guys who runs translatewiki.net, showed me that > it's possible to have arbitrary wiki pages converted to messages in > translatewiki. Would you consider putting the SMW manual there as > well? Sure, that would be great. Could you explain (or point me to a link where I can learn about): (1) how one can best synchronize our manual pages with translatewiki.net in this case (will there be a category comprising all pages for XML export?) (since our site is not public, it would be easy to simply declare the manual there to be a copy, so synching would boil down to copying from translatewiki- net), (2) how the translation can cope with structural changes (when adding/changing features, we often also add new pages to the manual or rename old ones), (3) how style/image related things are best synched (we use some images in texts as well, custom CSS is relevant only on the main page). Thanks for clarifying -- I would really like to use this feature as soon as possible! I could imagine to also include some "pseudo pages" that cover the translations of things that are currently not translated with the messages (e.g. the captions of namespaces). Regards, Markus -- Markus Krötzsch Semantic MediaWiki http://semantic-mediawiki.org http://korrekt.org ma...@se... |