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#2189 FOTAQ CD version for download not supported by queenrebuild

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2005-09-11
2005-09-11
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SUSE need to ship scummvm without MAD (MP3) support
(guess why). It should be possible to convert the FOTAQ data
into .ogg/.flac instead of .mp3 format with "queenrebuild".
Actually it is *not*. :-(

# /usr/games/queenrebuild --ogg queen.1c
Unknown/unsupported FOTAQ version!

Could this be changed/fixed? This would help our customers a
lot.

Discussion

  • Eugene Sandulenko

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  • Eugene Sandulenko

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    queenrebuild works only with original data. We ship it MP3
    compressed to savce bandwidth. So if you want to recompress
    it into OGG, you should get full version somewhere. Since it
    got freeware, many sites with legal downloads started to
    offer FOTAQ.

    This is definitely not a bug.

     
  • Stefan Dirsch

    Stefan Dirsch - 2005-09-11

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    Can you give me an example of "somewhere"? How much bigger
    would the data become when using .ogg instead of .mp3
    compression? Maybe you can provide them both for download?
    Would be much easier for our customers than to tell them to
    download the original data "somewhere" and convert it to .ogg
    format. SUSE is not the only distribution which meanwhile lacks
    MAD/MP3 support.

     
  • Stefan Dirsch

    Stefan Dirsch - 2005-09-11
    • milestone: 310901 --> Flight of the Amazon Queen
    • status: closed-invalid --> open-accepted
     
  • Eugene Sandulenko

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  • Eugene Sandulenko

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    Please, do not fiddle with bugreport attributes especially
    if you're not going to fix it by yourself.

    Again, this is _not_ a bug, so I'm closing it.

    I have no slightest idea on where to get the game. As I've
    told you it is legal to download it since it got freewared.
    You're not "a customer" but "a user of ScummVM" since you
    didn't pay us. We offer our service for free with no
    guarantees, go read the GNU Public License.

    And no, it would not be easier to offer 2 versions of the
    game or uncompressed one due to bandwidth restrictions on
    sf.net. We already overdued it 2x times than allowed.

    How come that SUSE lacks MAD support? Just go and install it.

     
  • Stefan Dirsch

    Stefan Dirsch - 2005-09-11

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    Sure it is not a bug. I would set it to enhancement with the new
    summary "Provide FOTAQ CD Version also in .ogg format".
    Unfortunately this seems not to be possible with this bugtracking
    system. :-(

    Ok, looks like it is not that difficult to find the full version using
    Google, e.g. '"Flight of the Amazon Queen" download' as search
    string does the trick.

    Maybe I should mention that I maintain scummvm for the SUSE
    Linux distribution. And I'm still convinced that you're interested
    scummvm seing on Linux distributions. Since I want to make
    a good job maintaining scummvm I contacted you about this
    problem to work a solution. Unfortunately it's not an option for
    us to include MAD support (MP3 license issues).

    I don't see the bandwith argument. Do you think people will download
    both versions (.ogg + .mp3)? It might be a harddisk space problem
    though.

    Anyway, I'll document this issue and describe how to download and
    rebuild the FOTAQ data to .ogg in a README.SUSE now.

     
  • Eugene Sandulenko

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    I see. The problem with sf.net is that they restrict project
    file space to 100M and we've crossed 200M line some time
    ago. If there would be some server which will put
    uncompressed version permanently we will gladly add link to
    it. Though correct place for such discussion is
    scummvm-devel mailing list. So I propose you to describe
    license problem with SUSE there and we will see how to solve it.

     
  • Stefan Dirsch

    Stefan Dirsch - 2005-09-11

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    Thanks. I'm subscribed now to the scummvm-devel list and
    will discuss this on the ML. I'll talk with SUSE/Novell.
    Maybe we can provide the URL/server for downloading the full
    version or at least an ogg compressed version.

    BTW, I was wrong. It isn't that easy to find a full version
    for download. Up to now (tried about a dozen download links)
    all version has been compressed versions (about 32 MB
    zipped) and therefore handled as unsupported versions by
    "queenrebuild".

    Is it correct, that queenrebuild only can convert from the
    original version to ogg/mp3/flac and not the other way round
    and also not between the compressed file formats? Currently
    this is my understanding of the situation.