Re: [Scrollkeeper-devel] structure of extracted index page

[Mary D. <Mar...@Su...>]

hi Daniel

I am somewhat confused on this issue too. I sent a mail earlier today, that=
 you=20
may have not received, which relates to this (see attached).

The main point is the problem of having scrollkeeper generating ids relatin=
g to=20
the original document. Specifically:
from what I understand the convertor at run time generates ids where requir=
ed=20
(using generate-id() ).  However,  I don't believe scrollkeeper=20
can predict what these ids will be because:
1) scrollkeeper may use a different convertor to the 'run-time' convertor.
2) even if the same convertor is used the w3.org description indicates that=
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  "An implementation is under no obligation to generate the
   same identifiers each time a document is transformed."
   see http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt#function-generate-id

Is this a correct assumption or have I misunderstood this (which is entirel=
y=20
possible :-) )

cheers
Mary

> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:32:35 -0400
> From: Daniel Veillard <vei...@re...>
> To: L=E1szl=F3 Kov=E1cs <las...@Su...>
> Cc: vei...@re..., Dan Mueth <da...@ea...>, Mary Dwyer=20
<Mar...@Su...>, scr...@li...,=20
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> Subject: Re: [Scrollkeeper-devel] structure of extracted index page
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2001 at 12:13:25PM +0100, L=E1szl=F3 Kov=E1cs wrote:
> > > > Yes, sections with no IDs are ignored  during TOC extraction.
> > >=20
> > >   Hum, this should probably be improved ...
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>   That is sure.
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> > > C.f. my other mail for a possible technical solution.
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>   Now whether XPointer can help w.r.t. the addressability then it really
> depends what need to be addressed.
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> > Are you talking about the XPointer email? I dont understand how that
> > helps us here. Our problem is that if a section does not have a unique
> > id then Scrollkeeper and gnome-db2html[2|3] can jump there only if they
> > generate an id to this section which is the same in both Scrollkeeper
> > and the convertor.
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>   What do you mean by jump here:
>     - if the here is an XML document, then I assume the document is
>       handled by libxml and hence XPointer can be used
>     - if the here is an HTML document, then XSLT has a=20
>       generate-id() function which can be used to generate a unique ID
>       for this element, and pointing is also possible using the existing
>       #name framework.
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> Did i missed something ?
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> Daniel
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