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From: Mark L. <mli...@us...> - 2006-12-04 00:43:23
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Hello to all in the Salstat Developers List! This message will doubtless come as a surprise bur no, this is not a Spam message but a message to tell you of some exciting (well, I think it is!) news for the Salstat Project. Because of Alan's work and personal commitments, he does not have time at present to work on Salstat. I am in the process of teaching myself Python / wxPython and have decided to take Salstat as my learning project. I have discussed this with Alan, and I have been added as co-Administrator for the project with the possibility I may take over the project in the future somewhere. My initial plans are to bring Salstat uptodate with the current Python 2.5 and wxWidgets / wxPython 2.8 which are in Release Candidate stage and aiming to be released on 11 December 2006 (in time to go into Mac OS/X 10.5 Leopard). I will also be making it work with the current SciPy Numeric module and anything else that needs to be updated. I aim to do this as soon as I can but definitely before the end of February (No, I don't think it will take nearly that long) as that is when I go back to Uni. At that point, I aim to do a release. Post release, I want to start adding functionality and I am open to suggestions from all of you. I have not started thinking what I wish to add but my general plan is to make it something that can be used at an undergraduate course level of statistics (I am a mature age, part time Bachelor of Information Technology student, about half way through, majoring in Bioinformatics.) I have home access to a Mac Pro with OS/X 10.4.8, Win XP Pro on my Laptop, and Gentoo and Ubuntu Linux on other machines. I look forward to any ideas and suggestions you all have. There is probably no point in multiple of us doing the rejuvenation step but after that, I am open to anyone wanting to contribute :-) I have started fixing some of the broken links on the website and will do more as time permits. Cheers and tell me what you would like to see in Salstat in the future! :-D MarkL |
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From: Mark L. <mli...@us...> - 2006-12-03 06:10:43
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Hello to all in the Salstat Developers List! This message will doubtless come as a surprise bur no, this is not a Spam message but a message to tell you of some exciting (well, I think it is!) news for the Salstat Project. Because of Alan's work and personal commitments, he does not have time at present to work on Salstat. I am in the process of teaching myself Python / wxPython and have decided to take Salstat as my learning project. I have discussed this with Alan, and I have been added as co-Administrator for the project with the possibility I may take over the project in the future somewhere. My initial plans are to bring Salstat uptodate with the current Python 2.5 and wxWidgets / wxPython 2.8 which are in Release Candidate stage and aiming to be released on 11 December 2006 (in time to go into Mac OS/X 10.5 Leopard). I will also be making it work with the current SciPy Numeric module and anything else that needs to be updated. I aim to do this as soon as I can but definitely before the end of February (No, I don't think it will take nearly that long) as that is when I go back to Uni. At that point, I aim to do a release. Post release, I want to start adding functionality and I am open to suggestions from all of you. I have not started thinking what I wish to add but my general plan is to make it something that can be used at an undergraduate course level of statistics (I am a mature age, part time Bachelor of Information Technology student, about half way through, majoring in Bioinformatics.) I have home access to a Mac Pro with OS/X 10.4.8, Win XP Pro on my Laptop, and Gentoo and Ubuntu Linux on other machines. I look forward to any ideas and suggestions you all have. There is probably no point in multiple of us doing the rejuvenation step but after that, I am open to anyone wanting to contribute :-) I have started fixing some of the broken links on the website and will do more as time permits. Cheers and tell me what you would like to see in Salstat in the future! :-D MarkL |
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From: Mark L. <mli...@us...> - 2006-12-02 08:05:22
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Hello to all in the Salstat Developers List! This message will doubtless come as a surprise bur no, this is not a Spam message but a message to tell you of some exciting (well, I think it is!) news for the Salstat Project. Because of Alan's work and personal commitments, he does not have time at present to work on Salstat. I am in the process of teaching myself Python / wxPython and have decided to take Salstat as my learning project. I have discussed this with Alan, and I have been added as co-Administrator for the project with the possibility I may take over the project in the future somewhere. My initial plans are to bring Salstat uptodate with the current Python 2.5 and wxWidgets / wxPython 2.8 which are in Release Candidate stage and aiming to be released on 11 December 2006 (in time to go into Mac OS/X 10.5 Leopard). I will also be making it work with the current SciPy Numeric module and anything else that needs to be updated. I aim to do this as soon as I can but definitely before the end of February (No, I don't think it will take nearly that long) as that is when I go back to Uni. At that point, I aim to do a release. Post release, I want to start adding functionality and I am open to suggestions from all of you. I have not started thinking what I wish to add but my general plan is to make it something that can be used at an undergraduate course level of statistics (I am a mature age, part time Bachelor of Information Technology student, about half way through, majoring in Bioinformatics.) I have home access to a Mac Pro with OS/X 10.4.8, Win XP Pro on my Laptop, and Gentoo and Ubuntu Linux on other machines. I look forward to any ideas and suggestions you all have. There is probably no point in multiple of us doing the rejuvenation step but after that, I am open to anyone wanting to contribute :-) I have started fixing some of the broken links on the website and will do more as time permits. Cheers and tell me what you would like to see in Salstat in the future! :-D MarkL |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2003-10-23 03:35:13
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Hi everyone, In between running experiments and writing a few thousand words a day for my Ph.D., I've made a new release of SalStat. There's only a few bugfixes, nothing major. There is, however, a major code re-write in progress which will make the code *much* easier to understand by someone else. Have fun! Alan. Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2003-09-11 11:44:27
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I've made a new release of SalStat (20030911 - codenamed "Texas!"). Features include: transformations, better charting (saves to bitmap) and a minor code-cleanup. Details and source as usual from the website: http://salstat.sunsite.dk, package is available from http://salstat.sunsite.dk/salstat.20030911.tar.gz. Have fun y'all! Alan Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2003-05-15 12:31:39
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Hi folks, Just a quick note to let everyone know that a new release of SalStat (version 20030513) has been made. This one should fix any bugs with the Windows installer, as a different plotting module has been used. I am also due to talk about SalStat at EuroPython 2003 (http://www.europythno.org)- not sure about the time and date, but the website above should have the details as and when they are ready. Have fun! Alan. Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Edwin <ra...@ly...> - 2003-03-23 21:02:06
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Downloaded the linux salstat20021105.tar.gz "all-inclusive" archive and=20 unpacked it in my home directory (tar -zxvf , even gunzip followed by tar=20 as per the readme file) but when trying to run ./salstat the program stop=20 complaining about missing .so files (that are there though). What's wrong? Or what am I missing? I'm dying to get started in this=20 proclaimed intuitive statistics package! Running Debian v3.0 r0, no python installed. Greetings, Edwin +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ra...@ly... |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2003-02-27 12:56:47
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Hi everyone, Just to announce a new release of SalStat. The code is available from http://salstat.sunsite.dk/salstat.20030227.zip, and a windows executable is from http://salstat.sunsite.dk/salstat.20030227.setup.exe. This version incorporates Numeric and SciPy, has plotting (courtesy of SciPy), the chi square test, and some UI enhancements. Have fun! Alan. Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2003-01-18 12:35:49
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Hi Everyone, Just a quick email to keep you all up to date with the latest development in SalStat. I have been chatting with Eric Jones and Travis Oliphant of SciPy (www.scipy.org) and decided to include some new modules with the next release of SalStat - namely Numeric and SciPy. These modules will allow the easy analysis of large datasets by treating them as arrays rather than lists. SciPy also has built in plotting modules which makes creating charts and graphs a lot easier (rather: it makes them possible!). However, they will not be essential to run the program. If a user doesn't have them installed, then the program will continue to run as before but with a more limited functionality. Users who have Numeric will be able to deal with much larger data sets, and the analysis will be much quicker. Users with SciPy installed will have access to all the functions that SciPy has. All the best, Alan. Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Federico S. I. <ji...@fr...> - 2002-11-19 13:12:02
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Hi Alan, On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:22:17AM +0000, Alan Salmoni wrote: > Hope you like the new release. The binary download should (in theory) > not even need Python to be installed. I used the McMillan installer to > make a file that includes everything from Python and wxPython to run, > although I understand that there are problems on Debian which I cannot > work out (because I don't run Debian!). I do not think the McMillan installer build will be the right way to go for the Debian package. I will have to wait until wxPython stabilizes in Debian before I can work on packages. I'll lek you know when that happens. :) --> Jijo -- Federico Sevilla III : http://jijo.free.net.ph : When we speak of free Network Administrator : The Leather Collection, Inc. : software we refer to GnuPG Key ID : 0x93B746BE : freedom, not price. |
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From: Federico S. I. <ji...@fr...> - 2002-11-13 02:34:40
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On Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 05:54:02PM +0000, Alan Salmoni wrote: > There is a new release of SalStat (codenamed "Pugh"). Cool. :) > This release contains a large number of improvements, among them: > Windows and Linux self-contained files (no dependencies) So all it needs now is Python, right? I will test it now on Linux. Debian does not have an updated wxWindows package due to stability issues which has prohibited me from making useable packages for salstat. Hopefully this will change things. > and a self-extracting installer for Windows; New tests; Interface > cleanup; Scripting support (access your data using Python and write > your own tests!); Extremely basic bar charts for the means (the > Windows version doesn't seem to work as well as the Linux one); Saving > and printing of analysis output; a new manual (pdf, text and TeX > format); A general usability improvement. Wow. Great work Alan. I'll let you know how the tests and the package go. :) --> Jijo -- Federico Sevilla III : http://jijo.free.net.ph : When we speak of free Network Administrator : The Leather Collection, Inc. : software we refer to GnuPG Key ID : 0x93B746BE : freedom, not price. |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2002-11-12 17:55:47
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There is a new release of SalStat (codenamed "Pugh"). This release contains a large number of improvements, among them: Windows and Linux self-contained files (no dependencies) and a self-extracting installer for Windows; New tests; Interface cleanup; Scripting support (access your data using Python and write your own tests!); Extremely basic bar charts for the means (the Windows version doesn't seem to work as well as the Linux one); Saving and printing of analysis output; a new manual (pdf, text and TeX format); A general usability improvement. There are lots of things to look at, so please send comments and bug reports to the author (see the website for more details). Have fun! Alan James Salmoni SalStat Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Federico S. I. <ji...@fr...> - 2002-08-04 18:26:54
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On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 05:47:16PM +0100, Alan Salmoni wrote:
> Hiya Jijo,
Hi Alan. :)
> Thank you *enormously* for telling about the corruption - I have
> uploaded some new files and they seem to download okay now so you have
> saved the day!
No problemo. Yes, the files are okay. Just a little tidbit about the
tar.gz: all the files in 20020803/help/ have their execute bits on, which I think
is wrong, considering they're HTML files.
> I think having a Debian package would be a great idea, and feel free
> to make one. I don't run Debian myself and am therefore a bit limited
> in that respect, but having a Debian package would make it easier for
> some people I am sure.
Okay. Great. After next week's series of exams, I'll go hack on the
packages. Or I'll use that to distract me during my "in-between studying
breaks". ;)
> 1) I'm not aware of any limitations for Python or wxPython. I am using
> 2.1.1 for Python and 2.3.1 for wxPython (I believe), but the code is
> quite (ahem) basic except for a couple of the widgets in wxPython
> which may only be functional in the latest versions.
Debian's wxPython is stuck at 2.2.9.2. I did a quick test (installed
libwxgtk2.2-python and ran salstat.py) and it failed, not finding
mixins.grid in
from wxPython.lib.mixins.grid import wxGridAutoEditMixin
I'll get in touch with the Debian package maintainer of
libwxgtk2.2-python and see how I can help get it upgraded to 2.3.2.1
which is the latest as far as the webpage goes.
> 2) The versioning system was just something convenient to me to keep
> track of when I made releases. I think I would probably change to a
> normal one (ie, 1.0.0) when it gets past beta, but I have no idea when
> that will be.
Okay. That sounds fine enough. I guess I'll go with the 0.YYYYMMDD
versioning for the packages, then. Should give people that illusion of
its being beta, too, or at least pre-release, which you have in bold
letters in the SalStat page. ;)
> Best of luck with the Debian package, and thanks again for telling me
> about the corrupted download.
Thank you. :)
--> Jijo
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From: Federico S. I. <ji...@fr...> - 2002-08-04 15:54:19
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On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 12:38:39PM +0100, Alan Salmoni wrote:
> A new release of SalStat has just been made amidst all my hectic phd
> work. Not much has been added - just the Cochranes Q test and a bug
> fix for the between subjects anova.
Alan, it's great to hear that you've been able to continue your work on
SalStat, despite your PhD work and the fact that you're still the only
main author, AFAIK.
There are some problems with the latest release files, though. I tried
downloading the 20020803 tar.gz and got the following error:
jijo@lawin:~/build/salstat$ tar zxvf salstat.20020803.tar.gz=20
20020803/
20020803/help/
20020803/help/node43.html
tar: Skipping to next header
tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers
gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated
tar: Child returned status 1
tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
The 20020803 zip file is similarly corrupted. On GNU/Linux using unzip
5.50 I get the following error:
jijo@lawin:~/build/salstat$ unzip salstat.20020803.zip=20
Archive: salstat.20020803.zip
error [salstat.20020803.zip]: missing 1978 bytes in zipfile
(attempting to process anyway)
error [salstat.20020803.zip]: start of central directory not found;
zipfile corrupt.
(please check that you have transferred or created the zipfile in the
appropriate BINARY mode and that you have compiled UnZip properly)
I get similar errors using WinZip on Windows 98, and have attempted to
re-download the files bypassing our local proxy, just in case it had a
bad copy, to no avail.
On a slightly different note:
The maintainership of two Debian GNU/Linux packages was recently passed
on to me by Andreas Tille (the zope-externaleditor and zopeedit
packages), and with this I've been learning more and more about the
internals of Debian package management.
=46rom my experience so far with SalStat, I don't think it will be too
hard for me to create Debian packages for them, and I'm sure this will
allow me to learn even more about Debian package management and SalStat.
Plus this might (should?) help grow the user and developer bases of
SalStat, which I'm hoping you will appreciate.
As I've read on the debian-mentors list, prospective package maintainers
are recommended to get in touch with the upstream author(s) before
working on a package, so I'm doing just that. Will you mind my (attempts
to, at least) packaging of SalStat?
Packages for both Python and wxPython exist for Debian, so both
published dependencies are satisfied. SalStat is also GPL'd so there
shouldn't be any licensing issues as far as the Debian Free Software
Guidelines are concerned.
If you'll be okay with this, I have some questions I hope you don't mind
my asking:
1. Do you know of any minimum versions of Python and wxPython to run the
latest version of SalStat (due to some new functions or features used,
perhaps)? Or at the least: which versions do you use for development and
testing?
2. Do you intend to use the YYYYMMDD versioning for "the rest of
SalStat's life"? Or is this an interim measure until such a time that
you think it's worthwhile to do a milestone 1.0 release? I ask because
if YYYYMMDD is how you plan things to be "forever", the packages will
use this version as is. If this is just an interim measure, I will
version the packages 0.YYYYMMDD, so that they will always be < 1.0.
Thank you for your continued work on SalStat, and I hope to get a
favorable response from you regarding my planned work on Deban packages
for your software.
Cheers.
--> Jijo
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2002-08-04 11:39:11
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A new release of SalStat has just been made amidst all my hectic phd work. Not much has been added - just the Cochranes Q test and a bug fix for the between subjects anova. Enjoy! Alan James Salmoni SalStat Alan James Salmoni HCI Group School of Psychology Cardiff University Wales, UK |
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From: Alan J. S. <ala...@nt...> - 2002-06-11 14:31:51
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Hi everyone, there is a new release of SalStat available today from the usual places (http://salstat.sunsite.dk/download.html). The new version only provides some additional functionality to the help window (the icons work), and a lot of help pages have been added (click on the "topics" tab for them). All the best, Alan James Salmoni SalStat |
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From: Alan J. S. <ala...@nt...> - 2002-06-06 14:12:32
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Hi everyone, There is a new release of SalStat version 20020606. Downloads available from http://salstat.sunsite.dk/download.html. This new version improves the data file save and loading routines, and some help documentation is also included. Tests added include the Friedmans test (a non-parametric analysis of variance), 2 sample sign test and the F test for variance ratio's. have fun! Alan james Salmoni SalStat. |
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From: Alan J. S. <ala...@nt...> - 2002-06-02 20:50:38
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New version released - bug fixes, and some help pages. Have fun! Alan James Salmoni SalStat. |
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From: Federico S. I. <ji...@fr...> - 2002-06-02 02:50:04
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Quoting Alan James Salmoni <ala...@nt...>: > New release of SalStat (v.20020514) dated today available from the website > (http://salstat.sunsite.dk). I just got 20020514 now (a little more than half a month after release, my apologies). I notice that neither the zip nor the tarball include grid.py which statsexec.py imports, so nothing runs. At first I thought you meant "import wxPython.grid", but then I read the README and you do mean "import grid", meaning your package's custom grid.py. > anova code works better, nominal descriptives have been included, and the > save routine (sort of) works now. Congratulations for the continuous progress, Alan. :) --> Jijo -- Federico Sevilla III : <http://jijo.free.net.ph/> Network Administrator : The Leather Collection, Inc. GnuPG Key ID : 0x93B746BE |
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From: Andrew Ho <ah...@su...> - 2002-05-29 00:18:47
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On Sun, 26 May 2002, Alexander Chelnokov wrote: > Hello All > > Can this be incorporated into OIO? ... > Announcing new release of the SalStat statistics package version > 20020514 WRITTEN IN PYTHON AND WXPYTHON (just like the last release). ... > Further details from the website http://salstat.sunsite.dk and downloads > available from http://salstat.sunsite.dk/downloads.html Hi Alex, SalStat seems to be aiming for something that works like SPSS for Windows (i.e. a spreadsheet-like interface). This may be a good target for OIO datasets to be exported into (as an alternative to SPSS). However, this kind of user interface is not optimal for browser access. From reading the SalStat web page, a major aim is to create this kind of "modern" interface. What I am not clear about is why the SalStat team decided to implement the stats routines de novo? For example, why did they decide not to use R? In my naive view, I think it may save some time and encourage collaboration if they built a SPSS-like interface for R (www.r-project.org). I have not have time to do this yet but I think it is not hard to build a good web-interface that use R routines. Would you be interested in such a module? Best regards, Andrew --- Andrew P. Ho, M.D. OIO: Open Infrastructure for Outcomes www.TxOutcome.Org |
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From: Alan J. S. <ala...@nt...> - 2002-05-14 22:32:10
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New release of SalStat (v.20020514) dated today available from the website (http://salstat.sunsite.dk). anova code works better, nominal descriptives have been included, and the save routine (sort of) works now. Alan. |
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From: Alan S. <SalmoniA@Cardiff.ac.uk> - 2002-05-07 15:27:05
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Hi all, I noticed a small bug in the latest release of SalStat (20020505) - when selecting an anova (or other test with more than 3 conditions), data from all the used columns were sent to the test, regardless of what the user selected (ie, if you had 4 columns of data entered, all 4 were used whether you selected 2, 3 or 4). This has been fixed, and will be available in the next release which should be either the end of this week or the weekend/next Monday. The anova routines have also been updated to be a bit faster, and more testing has been done on existing tests. There was also a weird bug that affected the output of the Spearmans and Kendalls correlations when a Kolmogorov-Smirnov test was also selected, but this has also been sorted out and will be available next release also. I have been tested the output with the output of several other packages (SPSS, Statview, Statistica and Minitab) for a consensus, and shall present the results very soon for comparison. Apart from a couple of minor errors (and the Freidman test not working at all!), everything seems to be on course. For example, t-tests (paired/unpaired), single factor anova (within and between subjects), and Pearsons correlation produce results exactly like SPSS with one difference: The p-value is expressed to 6 decimal places for greater specificity. I am also having second thoughts about putting all the "similar" tests in the same dialog - any opinions welcome as to whether this is good or would it be better to have a separate (but consistent) dialog for each test like existing packages? Have fun! Alan James Salmoni SalStat. |
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From: Alan J. S. <ala...@nt...> - 2002-05-06 00:16:15
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Hi all, Annoucing a new release of Salstat - I have decided to use a new release numbering system and am using the Wine version YYYMMDD (Y = year, M = month, D = day). New things? It now does within subjects single factor anova (results tested well against SPSS), 1 sample sign test and it loads comma-separated value datafile, though the files have to be "blocked" (ie, no missing spaces). Enter missing values as -99.999. Downloads are available from http://salstat.sunsite.dk/download.html. As mentioned in an earlier email, it now runs on Mac OSX (details in the README file available in the packages and the web site http://salstat.sunsiet.dk/documentation.html). Have fun! Alan James Salmoni Salstat. ps - there is also a small icon for those interested - any improvements welcome (I am *not* an artist!) ;) |
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From: Phillip D. <ph...@so...> - 2002-05-01 07:49:30
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From: Alan J. S. <ala...@nt...> - 2002-04-30 21:39:05
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---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: 0.1.3 of SalStat runs on [Mac OS X with fink] Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:48:08 +0200 From: "L.F.H." <hu...@ha...> To: sal...@cf... Cc: pyt...@py... Hi Alan james Salmoni, you asked for a "nice new Mac". I can't give you such a machine, but .. I tested the above mentiioned software (but at first) if it starts without problems. http://salstat.sunsite.dk Unpacking with the usual tar -xvxf salstat.tar.gz starting python gird.py no error. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ My configuration http://fink.sourceforge.net/ fink 0.4 From this I installed python2.2.1 and wxpython-wxgtk 2.3.2.1-3 --> don't install wxmac but wxgtk and this works quite fine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ludger Humbert ------------------------------------------------------- |
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