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From: Martin S. <ci...@gm...> - 2007-05-11 23:32:33
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Am Freitag, den 11.05.2007, 14:06 +0000 schrieb Christoph Walcher: > Hi, > > > > in the last days i monitored RssView statistics (downloads, page views > etc.) and noticed that we've create a quite popular project (note that > we did not release since October 7, 2004). So my question is, should we > give some effort to RssView development, what features should we > implement, what directions to take in future? Hello devs, I agree, it was a lot of fun. I'm not sure about this project anymore. Java standalone applications on desktops might still be useful, but I can see that people prefer to have their news tickers aggregated tightly with their desktops. I have some more project ideas (totally different topics) and some of them are in development. I have many things to do. RssView is quite useful, but it lacks support for new feed standards. We have been a few steps ahead some time ago, but now we lost the pole position. Whatever ideas there are. Let's discuss it. The code is also quite old. JDK 1.5 is standard and has many APIs that are already built-in. There is some code clean-up to do. I have seen a connection between RssView and a new project, but it will still take time until I can take RssView in consideration. It does not have a priority for me at the moment. -- Martin |
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From: Schmidt M. <sch...@su...> - 2007-05-11 20:20:31
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Hi Chris, mmh - RSS Aggregation on webpages or portals is pretty common these days. I'm not quite shure whether the affort to create something sexy is worth it. But nevertheless: It was great fun to work with you therefore we might start something new? cheers, Matthias Am 11.05.2007 um 16:06 schrieb Christoph Walcher: > Hi, > > > > in the last days i monitored RssView statistics (downloads, page views > etc.) and noticed that we've create a quite popular project (note that > we did not release since October 7, 2004). So my question is, > should we > give some effort to RssView development, what features should we > implement, what directions to take in future? > > > > Cheers > > Christoph > > > > PS: I set up a Google Analytics account for RssView (to subsitute the > old nedstat system) - if your interested I'll add you to the admin > list. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > messenger.yahoo.de > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Rssview-developers mailing list > Rss...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rssview-developers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthias Schmidt Tel : (++49) 6227 356 236 Sun Microsystems GmbH Fax : (++49) 6227 356 222 Altrottstr. 31 SAP(WDF03,G5.30) : (++49) 6227 7 61093 D-69190 Walldorf Mobil : (++49) 171 5767209 |
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From: Schmidt M. <sch...@su...> - 2007-05-11 18:25:38
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Hi Chris, mmh - RSS Aggregation on webpages or portals is pretty common these days. I'm not quite shure whether the affort to create something sexy is worth it. But nevertheless: It was great fun to work with you therefore we might start something totally new? cheers, Matthias Am 11.05.2007 um 16:06 schrieb Christoph Walcher: > Hi, > > > > in the last days i monitored RssView statistics (downloads, page views > etc.) and noticed that we've create a quite popular project (note that > we did not release since October 7, 2004). So my question is, > should we > give some effort to RssView development, what features should we > implement, what directions to take in future? > > > > Cheers > > Christoph > > > > PS: I set up a Google Analytics account for RssView (to subsitute the > old nedstat system) - if your interested I'll add you to the admin > list. > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > messenger.yahoo.de > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Rssview-developers mailing list > Rss...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rssview-developers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Matthias Schmidt Tel : (++49) 6227 356 236 Sun Microsystems GmbH Fax : (++49) 6227 356 222 Altrottstr. 31 SAP(WDF03,G5.30) : (++49) 6227 7 61093 D-69190 Walldorf Mobil : (++49) 171 5767209 |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2007-05-11 14:06:58
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Hi, in the last days i monitored RssView statistics (downloads, page views etc.) and noticed that we've create a quite popular project (note that we did not release since October 7, 2004). So my question is, should we give some effort to RssView development, what features should we implement, what directions to take in future? Cheers Christoph PS: I set up a Google Analytics account for RssView (to subsitute the old nedstat system) - if your interested I'll add you to the admin list. ___________________________________________________________ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-11-25 16:41:59
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Hi, I noticed that Informa (our RSS parser) loads DTDs for each feed. In = plain english that means that Informa loads RSS 0.91 DTD for each subscribed = RSS 0.91 feed! This is an unnecessarily waste of system resources. The = problem with the Informa Parser classes is that the whole parser subsystem is realized with static methods that makes extending difficult to = impossible. I got no reaction from Informa team for my email :( In the moment I see two approaches: * Use Informa and manipulate source + Already works with Rss Viewer - Merge changes to Informa into our adapted source * Switch to a pure RSS Parser Project + Less (unnecessary) code (Informa library comprises classes for storage etc.) + Better performance (No DTD resoles) and (possibly) better architecture - Some work for adaption - Testing with some feeds once more I've already looked at some pure Parser projects: Apache Commons FeedParser (in sandbox) http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/feedparser/index.html Sandler http://sourceforge.net/projects/sandler Rome http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javawsxml/Rome RssLib4J http://sourceforge.net/projects/rsslib4j/ RssLib J http://enigmastation.com/rsslibj/ My personal favorit is Rome because of features and api documentation = and feed parser because of the apache commons reputation. I'm awaiting your feedback. Cheers Christoph Walcher |
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-11-14 11:37:30
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Hi, as we now have adapted logos and icons we should do a release ASAP. I'll build the win32 installer. Ciao Christoph |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-11-13 21:46:35
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Hi, I reworked (a bit) our icons loading system. Icons are not loaded directly by IconContainer but by IconSet. ZipIconSet is the only class implementing IconSet. ZipIconSet loads icons and a describing xml file from a zip file. This makes exchanging icon sets quite easy. The Ant task "buildiconset" creates this "default" zip file. The redesigned logo and icon are placed in our images folder. To avoid loosing our image template once more I created a resources folder where we can put artifacts that are not directly used in a build process. Cheers Christoph |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-11-09 17:01:54
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Am Fr, den 05.11.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 16:13: > I uploaded some samples (icon 16x16, icon 32x32, large, large in Gimp file > format) to > http://rssview.sourceforge.net/experimental/ The composition looks nice. Did you draw the telescope by yourself? I'm amazed. Is anyone going to make suggestions? If not, we will choose this one. Martin |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-11-05 15:14:19
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Hi, Martin wrote: > I've played a bit around and moved my > "artwork" to the webserver. > > http://rssview.sourceforge.net/experimental/ > > These are 2 versions. One is with bump-mapping > second without. Each of them with and without > background. > > The XCF files are for Gimp. I like the Font, Colors and the elipsis in the background. Looks cool! I'm missing an eye catcher like a logo! The problem with the Rss Viewer logo (magnification glass) is, that it's to "sparse" and does not scale down well. What about a new logo? My preference is a telescope - because Rss Viewer is a tool like the telescope to observe entities that far away from you and a telescope is quite easy to draw I uploaded some samples (icon 16x16, icon 32x32, large, large in Gimp file format) to http://rssview.sourceforge.net/experimental/ Cheers Christoph |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-11-04 20:05:52
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Hi, I've played a bit around and moved my "artwork" to the webserver. http://rssview.sourceforge.net/experimental/ These are 2 versions. One is with bump-mapping second without. Each of them with and without background. The XCF files are for Gimp. Suggestions and alternatives welcome, Martin |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-11-04 13:51:31
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Hi, Martin wrote: > Am Di, den 02.11.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 20:53: >> I'd provide the Win32 installer. >> I found a method getResourceBundle in RssView class which is >> unnecessary IMHO because ResourceBundle caches loading of >> ResourceBundles - we can load them in our classes as we want - with >> no performance or memory penalty. >=20 > But it's a good idea to narrow the interface to a single point. This > is only a temporary workaround for now. What I really prefer to have, > is a class that handles I18N. =20 > Narrowing the interface is ok but we introduce unnecessary dependencies. = I'd prefer some kind of I18N service and a service architecture for Rss = Viewer. I removed one dependency on RssView (ChannelModelBuilder) because I'm = doing some vision implementations for Rss Viewer: Web UI (run a webserver in background like AmphetaDesk) Search in our Model (no http driven search) Cheers Christoph |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-11-02 20:43:16
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Am Di, den 02.11.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 20:53: > I integrated Feed Assistent in RssView. The UI has been a little bit > reworked, a Cancel Button was intruduced Mutliselect of Feeds works. > From my point of view we could do a small Beta2 release or a 2.0 > release if you want to? I would prefer that we make a release soon. Lets clean up everything and go ahead. The preview was good and I think we had some positive feedback. > I'd provide the Win32 installer. > I found a method getResourceBundle in RssView class which is > unnecessary IMHO because ResourceBundle caches loading of > ResourceBundles - we can load them in our classes as we want - with no > performance or memory penalty. But it's a good idea to narrow the interface to a single point. This is only a temporary workaround for now. What I really prefer to have, is a class that handles I18N. > Another "bug" I found is that our splash screen says that "RssView" > instead of "Rss Viewer" is launching. Could you fix that - I have no > templates. Me neither. Haven't we had a discussion about a logo earlier? Give me some time with a new one. I like the colors of our homepage. I'll experiment a bit. Martin |
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-10-31 21:26:52
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Hi, I created a little but useful class to extract Directory Entries (for = our Feed Assistent) from a single RSS Feed URL or an HTML page with links to = Rss Feeds. Usage: java -cp .\;..\..\lib\informa.jar;..\..\lib\jdom.jar;..\..\lib\commons-logging.jar= de.cinek.rssview.util.DirectoryExtractor -html http://today.java.net/pub/q/java_net_rss c:\java.net.xml For extracting all feeds from an HTML Page to file c:\java.net.xml Or: java -cp .\;..\..\lib\informa.jar;..\..\lib\jdom.jar;..\..\lib\commons-logging.jar= de.cinek.rssview.util.DirectoryExtractor -xml http://rss.orf.at/futurezone.xml c:\futurezone.xml For a single Rss Feed. All Information we need is extracted and written to a valid xml file. Hope that will make the work easier to construct a cool directory.xml = file. Cheers Christoph |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-10-31 16:32:29
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Am So, den 31.10.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 13:38:
> Hi,
>
> I integrated the feed assistent in Rss Viewer. The icon is not perfect -
> just took the old star icon from the repository, the url of the feed
> directory is hardcoded but it works. Could you take a look at it - and I'll
> polish this piece of code for the next release. The directory.xml file lies
> on our sf page in htdocs/feeds.
I've made some trivial fixes. Yes, this looks very cool.
> I found out that it would be terrible easy to integrate a search feature
> over our article database. Should we integrate that feature instead (or
> additional) to our existing search facility?
Yes. People will like it. We must keep search, because it's something
else then searching in our database.
> For our next release i'd like to have an installer - at least for our w32
> friends. After some adaptions to NSIS example scripts it was possible to
> create a cool Windows installer. Which Installer tools are we gone to use?
For MS-Windows, I let you decide. Everything else should be done with
Webstart.
I have a small problem, I couldn't figure out. Why does the root node
for the category-tree always show the English translation
("My newsfeeds")? Really weird.
Martin
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-10-31 12:38:17
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Hi, I integrated the feed assistent in Rss Viewer. The icon is not perfect - just took the old star icon from the repository, the url of the feed directory is hardcoded but it works. Could you take a look at it - and = I'll polish this piece of code for the next release. The directory.xml file = lies on our sf page in htdocs/feeds. I found out that it would be terrible easy to integrate a search feature over our article database. Should we integrate that feature instead (or additional) to our existing search facility? For our next release i'd like to have an installer - at least for our = w32 friends. After some adaptions to NSIS example scripts it was possible to create a cool Windows installer. Which Installer tools are we gone to = use? IzPack - produces jar installers. Cool but a little clumys for Windows = Users NSIS - produces good small exe installers, just windows, scriptable Install Anywhere Now! - good installer, not scriptable, discontinued... WebStart - A little slow, auto update, user acceptance? ...Your suggestions here... Cheers Christoph |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-10-31 01:12:41
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Am Sa, den 30.10.2004 schrieb meconlin um 23:02: > The donwloadable jar for RssView 2.0.0 works great, however > the working copy of the code from CVS does not compile. Is > there a way to get the stable (2.0.0 beta) source? Sorry, which JDK version are you using? We are recommending at least version 1.4. We always keep our sources in compilable state. I checked the latest sources and they compile without problems. Can you send the error messages? Perhaps we can help you. Martin |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-10-29 16:51:07
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I have problems when switching between Compact and Standard View. It looks like it does not redraw. Are you seeing this too or is it just me? Martin |
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-10-28 15:56:26
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Hi, I checked in a usability update. Article View now has a filter panel to * show all articles * show unread articles only * show newest n articles (from channel definition) only * show newest n articles (from user input) only The Search Panel is now displayed at the Bottom of Article View - no more need to switch in the Tabbed Pane! It's fun to work in Article View again! No delays because of the JEditorPane... Have fun! Cheers Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Albrechtskreithgasse 4-6/1/11 A-1160 Wien email: chr...@we... mobile: +43 (650) 8320065 |
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-10-28 01:56:28
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Hi, In our article view I forgot to add the Channel overview panel. Perhaps we could find a better solution for this Panel (on the tabbed pane) - an integration in a toolBar with search option would be nice. I'll (re)integrate the original panel tomorrow. Cheers Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Albrechtskreithgasse 4-6/1/11 A-1160 Wien email: chr...@we... mobile: +43 (650) 8320065 |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-10-27 21:50:21
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Am Mi, den 27.10.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 21:58:
> I wonder what our product name is:
> RssView
> Or
> Rss Viewer
The unix short name is rssview. The full name is
Rss Viewer.
Recently I found a second project named "rssviewer".
But it's not a problem for now, I think. This ambiguity
is my fault. Sorry for that.
Martin
PS: I will think about this "delete" issue, give me some
time. I will give feedback soon.
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-10-27 19:59:12
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Hi, I wonder what our product name is: RssView Or Rss Viewer We can be found under both keywords via google. I'm not sure what's the right name. Cheers Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Albrechtskreithgasse 4-6/1/11 A-1160 Wien email: chr...@we... mobile: +43 (650) 8320065 |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-10-27 18:35:36
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Hi, Christoph Walcher wrote: >> I've a rather big update concerning rssview performance in my lokal=20 >> project folder. > > Wow. That's really what we need. > We have it. Performance did not significantly increase for JEditorPane = (it's just terrible slow...) stuff. But the user experience is a lot better because GUI is not blocked. Do you have an idea how to implement a "delete article" action. My = approach would be: * Save a "updated flag" for each article if it was in the last refresh = run * If an article is deleted: * mark all articles with "updated flag" as "ready to delete" * delete all other articles from database Any more elegant ideas? >> Should I check it in now or wait for a 2.1 release. We could do a=20 >> Beta 2 or a release candidate :) > > Yes. Performance and assistant are not radical changes. > >> To increase performance I tuned the register and unregister process=20 >> for event listeners so that only view components that are used by the = >> view receive events. And I tuned the JEditorPane to append text in an = >> asynchrounus way (the GUI is not blocked anymore). I created an=20 >> "alpha" implementation of our feed assitent. I would checkl it in = with=20 >> the other changes. > Are you afraid, you could break something? We can branch the project, = but I would prefer, if you simply commit it. We can > test everything. I'm not afraid to break something - I'm just afraid that I could = introduce too many new bugs so that our final release is delayed by some years = again :) Cheers Christoph PS: Quoted by hand. Excuse the (possibly) ugly message |
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From: Martin <cin...@gm...> - 2004-10-27 17:14:58
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Am Mi, den 27.10.2004 schrieb Christoph Walcher um 13:04: > I've a rather big update concerning rssview performance in my lokal > project folder. Wow. That's really what we need. > Should I check it in now or wait for a 2.1 release. We could do a > Beta 2 or a release candidate :) Yes. Performance and assistant are not radical changes. > To increase performance I tuned the register and unregister process > for event listeners so that only view components that are used by the > view receive events. And I tuned the JEditorPane to append text in an > asynchrounus way (the GUI is not blocked anymore). > I created an "alpha" implementation of our feed assitent. I would > checkl it in with the other changes. Are you afraid, you could break something? We can branch the project, but I would prefer, if you simply commit it. We can test everything. Martin |
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From: Christoph W. <sai...@ya...> - 2004-10-27 11:06:31
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Hi, I've a rather big update concerning rssview performance in my lokal project folder. Should I check it in now or wait for a 2.1 release. We could do a Beta 2 or a release candidate :) To increase performance I tuned the register and unregister process for event listeners so that only view components that are used by the view receive events. And I tuned the JEditorPane to append text in an asynchrounus way (the GUI is not blocked anymore). I created an "alpha" implementation of our feed assitent. I would checkl it in with the other changes. All changes have been tested quite extensivly but some failures might still reside in the code. Ciao Christoph -- Christoph Walcher Albrechtskreithgasse 4-6/1/11 A-1160 Wien email: chr...@we... mobile: +43 (650) 8320065 |
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From: Christoph W. <chr...@we...> - 2004-10-20 12:34:18
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Hi, I've uploaded the new RssView site. We have a simple, fancy news section = - I just copied our news entries from sourceforge. I uploaded an additional = file maintenance.html that presents a simple "Site maintenance" message to = the users. Ciao Christoph |
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