Re: Problem with rssh in an otherwise working chroot jail

[Derek M. <co...@pi...>]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 12:16:07PM +0000, Tim Cutts wrote:
> C'mon, Derek!  No-one reads documentation, and well you know it.  :-)  
> If they do read the documentation for a program, it'll only be because 
> they haven't been able to get it to work by just guessing for several 
> hours :-)

I do.  I always thoroughly read all relevant man pages whenever I
begin using some new tool...  Only if the documentation adds up to a
small book, AND I can't find what I'm looking for by searching it, AND
I've already figured out 95% of what I need, will I resort to mailing
lists over documentation.  If I'm in an extreme rush to get something
working, I may skim over some of the LESS SALIENT details...  But I
always go back and read them when time allows.

Not that I don't get your point, but that's precisely why the web page
says I'll ignore any questions that demonstrate that you haven't read
the documentation...  There's little point in me answering questions
here to which I've already provided ample detailed explanations in the
documentation.  My time is valuable too. 

Since I'm very nearly the only one who ever answers questions around
here (a little less so lately, but only a litle), the vast majority of
questions that I've seen here seem like a monumental waste of my time.
Not because the questions themselves are hard to answer, or even all
that time-consuming, individually, per se...  It's just that I've
already spent days answering them in more than sufficient detail, in
writing and re-writing the documentation; and the questions are almost
always the same small set of questions...  And it's not like the
documentation is all that long... it's only a few pages or so.  It's
well-organized, making it fairly easy to skip stuf that's just bloody
obvious, IMO.  I shouldn't NEED to answer questions here, because I've
already answered them, and IMO the documentation I wrote is excellent.

I can change the docs if doing so would make it more clear -- but I
see little point if no one will read them anyway...

I had a boss once, who I greatly respected.  He once said, "Derek,
it's so much easier to be better than the next guy.  All you have to
do is pay attention to details."  I never forgot that, and I totally
agree with it.  To make it directly relevant to this discussion, I'll
restate it.

The difference between an average system administrator, and a GOOD
system administrator, is the detailed knowledge gained by reading the
documentation.  And about $25,000 a year...  ;-)

> >>Derek I know you don't like to get requests to add command X, but I
> >>wonder if you have considered subversion, since cvs is allowed.
> >
> >Not anytime soon...  I know nothing about subversion -- beyond it
> >being YARCS -- and I don't have time right now to look into it.  In
> >the future, it may be a possibility.
> 
> I'd have thought support should be very simple; I don't know much about 
> subversion either, but from what I've seen it has a command line 
> interface very similar to CVS, so the same code can probably be 
> re-used.

It isn't that it's not simple...  It's that I don't know the command
set.  I don't know the syntax, and I don't know what features it has
that might make circumventing rssh easy.  And since I'm currently
pretty busy with other things, it's not something on which I have time
to spend.

svn is on my long list of things to look into, for more reasons than
this...  It's just not very high on my priority list.

-- 
Derek D. Martin
http://www.pizzashack.org/
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