Death of ROXTerm

2016-05-25
2017-01-03
  • Tony Houghton

    Tony Houghton - 2016-05-25

    I'm afraid the time has come to put ROXTerm to sleep. I've had a look over the code and latest GTK API and I'm pretty sure there is no quick fix for bug #125, in fact there is even more code relying on the old geometry than I realised, and I could end up messing around with it for months trying to get all the sizing features right. The only satisfactory solution would be a major rewrite, which isn't really justified by whatever distinctive features ROXTerm offers over anything else that people (including myself) are relying on. With such a big bug in the way it doesn't seem worth tackling the other outstanding issues. Apologies to all the people who have taken time to report and discuss them.

    There is one potential killer feature I can think of, and that's to integrate the functionality of something like tmux or screen with remote capability, but I think that would require at least major support from a reworked vte, and I think it's over-ambitious for me.

    So, unless anyone else wants to take this over (seems unlikely), I'll soon start doing things like getting it removed from Debian.

     
  • Bat Guano

    Bat Guano - 2016-05-27

    Thank you Tony.

    There should be a last moment of celebration.

    You mentioned a few times all the alternatives that exist and appear to render superfluous all further investment of energy and time for the development of Roxterm. You have the right to say so.

    I'd like to emphasize once again on the beauty and efficiency of this software. Many of us would continue to ignore all those alternative applications, but as we know Roxterm are more prepared to make our choices, I guess.
    They had better be fun to use or it will be a quick “Good Riddance”! ;-)

    Have a good time, by all means.

     
  • Omega Weapon

    Omega Weapon - 2016-05-28

    Thanks for your work keeping Roxterm alive so far, so something else lost to GNOME/GTK.

     
  • SoleSoul

    SoleSoul - 2016-06-03

    I chose your application over everything else and I tried almost everything. RoxTerm has exactly what I need and it is reliable. Its simple and things are where you expect them to be. I never used Rox by the way.

    Thanks a lot for your work.

    I'm now setting up another terminal to look like the RoxTerm configuration I liked. It's possible but a bit troublesome.

    I think it's all about design. Yours was the best.

     
    Last edit: SoleSoul 2016-06-03
  • John Smith

    John Smith - 2016-10-23

    I actually had to create an account here especially for this. I just want to say thank you very much for this awesome terminal emulator. On the interface and useability side of things, RoxTerm was light years ahead of anything else and has been my favourite for a long time now.

    I actually came here looking for a fix for that bug and so am sad to see this but it is completely understandable. Thank you again for this software.

     
  • Michael

    Michael - 2017-01-03

    I will continue using ROXterm until the day I can no longer get it to run on my machine. I will go through any and all hacks necessary to do so. That is how much I love your software! Things no other terminal I've found does:
    * Sessions! I use these!
    * Tab renaming! gnome-terminal recently removed these! I have no faith in their developers anymore.
    * Massive configurability. I absolutely love how there is a configuration option for almost everything. This in a day when developers are coming up with insane excuses for making software less configurable! (Like the aforementioned removal of tab-renaming)

    I love your software. Even if you say it is poorly-written code, it is beautiful as a whole. You have written an incredible program. Thank you.

     
    Last edit: Michael 2017-01-03
  • Martin Baute

    Martin Baute - 2017-04-06

    Sad.

    The reason I used RoxTerm for all these years was a combination of three features that no other package delivered so far -- availability in Cygwin(ports), quick startup, plus -- and I don't understand why no-one else has picked this up -- the --tab command line option opening a new tab in an existing terminal window instead of a whole new terminal. Very useful if mapped to keyboard hotkeys.

    gnome-terminal has the --tab option, but I never got it to work. Konsole has it too, but takes ages to start up.

    I very much missed RoxTerm when running a new Cygwin setup just today, and am saddened to see this little gem go -- especially since there is no drop-in replacement available for me. Looks like I have to deal with multiple terminal windows from now on.

    Bugger.

    But thanks for the years of making my work easier.

     
    Last edit: Martin Baute 2017-04-06
    • Tony Houghton

      Tony Houghton - 2017-04-06

      All that time I was wondering if there was a more Unixy alternative to PuTTY and I didn't realise I'd written one myself!

      Sorry to hear of your let down with tab management. I noticed that gnome-terminal doesn't let you drag tabs out of windows, I think you used to be able to do that. You can detach a tab into a window of its own, but there doesn't seem to be a way to put it back. ROXTerm's tab bar gave me all sorts of headaches with widget sizing, which is really difficult to get right in GTK wiht resizable windows. I wouldn't be surprised if disabling the inter-window movement was g-t's way of "fixing" some bugs.

       
  • Gerhard Gonter

    Gerhard Gonter - 6 days ago

    Since Gnome terminal removed tab renaming, it became more or less useless for me and I had to switch to RoxTerm which works nicely for my until this day. When RoxTerm was removed from Ubuntu 16.10 (and later), this became more or less a show stopper for upgrading. Right now, packages from Ubuntu 16.04 still work on 17.04, but the end of RoxTerm is worrying.

    What is out there to replace RoxTerm?

    Thanks for your good work and best wishes, GG

     

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