From: Jesse R. <ra...@ra...> - 2002-09-10 17:50:09
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On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 13:16, Jim Lesurf wrote: > I am fairly new to Linux (about 10 hours as yet), so as yet I am proceeding > slowly. My first experimental use is with a very old machine onto which I > installed the version of Red Hat 7.3 Gnome that came with "Red Hat 7.3. for > Dummies". Within a few hours I decided to replace the standard Gnome > desktop with ROX. :-) Good idea, nautilus is slow as crap... > > Deeply impressed with ROX. For me it is particularly useful as I am a > long-time RO user, and having a 'familiar' desktop/filer model helps me a > lot with coming to terms with Linux use. Apologies in advance that some of > what follows will be very 'newbie' I am afraid. > > Now on to the questions.... ;-> > > Firstly, I tried experimenting with some of the apps 'wrappers'. Some of > these work fine, but some others do not. Main example here is the one for > XPaint which fails with an error message. If I open up a terminal window > [1] and try either 'xpaint' or 'exec xpaint' I get an error which tells me > that the command wasn't recognised. > > Having had a look-around, I *think* that XPaint is not installed. Can't > find any sign of it. Looking in one of me 'Big Books of Linux' I notice > Xpaint listed amongst the *games* of the installation. This seems odd as it > is (IIUC) a bitmap painting/editor. When installing Red Hat I omitted the > games section as I don't have an interest in playing games. > > Questions here are: > > 1) Is it correct that Xpaint is in 'games' and hence I won't have it if I > left out the entire games section of my install? > > 2) What is the quickest/easiest and most reliable way to check that a given > app (or command) *is* installed and will be recognised? Is it to try 'man', > or 'info' or simply to have a look at what files I can find?... or?... Not sure where Xpaint is listed in the RPM database, but I can tell you that it sucks. Think Microsoft Paint, and make the interface with a box of five crayola crayons and you start to get the idea. As far as checking to see if an app is installed, just type "which $COMMAND" where $COMMAND is what you wish to check for. It is best to do this as root, as which will only check directories in your $PATH, and root has a different $PATH setup on Redhat. > The second question above also makes me wonder if there is a general way to > see what version of something is installed. For example, I installed a > given version of ROX-Filer. What is the quickest way to check which version > I installed if I can't remember? *most* of the applications I use will allow you to try something like "app --version" or "app -v" if all else fails try "app --help" which should show you the version as well. > Today I was examining some of the alternative icons, etc, that are > available. Some of these are XPM files. I am familiar with PNGs, GIFs, etc, > but not XPMs. When it comes to images for files/directories or the images > used to create window 'furniture' etc, does it matter if they are XPMs or > PNGs or... ? I believe *not positive* that Rox will convert PNGs and pretty much any other image into XPM's if you decide to use that image for an icon. This might have changed in 1.3.3, but I'm guessing your using 1.2.2 > (BTW Anyone reading this who also uses RO and knows of a convertor to/from > XPM that runs under RO?) > > Finally, I have put the ROX-Session icon on my iconbar (panel) and now use > this to end a session. However this takes me back to the main login screen > with no option to actually shut down. I then have to shutdown from the main > login window. I am always using my Linux machine as a single user, and will > generally want to shut down and switch off at the end of a session.[2] Is > it possible to get ROX-Session to either offer me a 'logout or shutdown?' > option or choice? Is this something I can set up? Ideally this would be a > choice on the window clicking on the icon pops up, or something like: > > left-click = logout and go to login window > right-click = go into shutdown > > Thanks, again, very much for ROX. > > Slainte, > > Jim > > [1] I keep calling this a 'taskwindow' which gives me away as a RO user. > ;-> > > [2] At present I am using an old machine for trying things out. However I > will shortly have a new laptop with RH7.3 on it. This will be for use out > in the field, by one user, so for the work it will normal to shut it down > and switch off, not simply go to awaiting a new login. > > -- > Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > Armstrong Audio http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Audio/armstrong.html > Barbirolli Soc. http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/JBSoc/JBSoc.html > TechWriter http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/TechWrite/Tips1.html > Compo http://www.st-and.demon.co.uk/Compo/clues.html I can't offer much help with the RO stuff, as I've never used any of it. Hopefully some of my babble will be useful to you though. Good luck! -Raleigh |