[rox-users] Re: Desktop

[<John@Kungfu-tse.net>]

Peter,

I know nothing of Debian but Rox can be compiled and installed from a
tarball so I should have thought it would work.  Look at the Rox website
and check out the Rox mailing list - rox...@li....  They
are a very helpful crowd.  


Rox works very well with Icewm - both are small, simple, fast and
efficient, and the two dovetail neatly to give you everything you need for
a desktop.  I do not even have KDE installed, and only use some Gnome
libraries for certain programs.  Rox enables you to put icons on the
desktop or in Gnome-type panels.  If you use Rox-Session it will
automatically put you into the Rox desktop on logging in and can be told to
open whatever pinboard (desktop) and panels you want to start with.  Each
of your 40 users could have their own custom setup. Click on your Desktop
button and all your windows will vanish leaving just the icons - which can
be files, folders or programs or whatever.  It is an excellent system.  


Rox is very innovative and has recently started a thing called Zero Install
which means you do not even have to install programs - they load from the
net then leave what is necessary in a cache on your disk for use when
offline.  Haven't tried it yet but it seems a great step towards
simplification.  Read all you can about Rox.  Hope that is enough to get
you going.


If you put the cursor on the time in Icewm toolbar it will give you the
date in a tooltip. 


John

PS  I have copied this to the Rox list and maybe someone will come straight
back to you with advice about Debian.

 

On September 20, 7:07 am Peter Nome <pe...@co...> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> Rox looks great -- I'd never heard of it, so you can safely assume I
> wasn't using it :-)
> It doesn't look particularly compatible with Debian, though, and is not
> in sid (the 'unstable' Debian branch).
>
> I'm completely new to IceWM -- I've just switched from KDE and get a
> kick out of it. I do have workspace switching buttons and like the idea
> of calling one Desktop -- but how do you make what you put in that
> workspace persist into the next session?
> I should perhaps explain that the reason I started using IceWM is that
> I'm helping out at a high school and their computer lab has machines
> that are painfully slow under KDE. I had to learn how to use Ice so that
> I could configure it for them. Once I've found a configuration I like, I
> copy it over to the forty plus users of the lab. I'm pretty happy with
> what we have so far (I can only check it through vnc), but I'm a rookie
> at this stuff.
> I have one other detail question: how do you make a date show up
> somewhere, preferably in the system tray?
> I'm hoping the Debian packagers will incorporate the latest fixes -- the
> "no default background" is not my preference, took me some time to
> figure out how to work around it. Also, I use a "TwinView" configuration
> and the behavior is slightly off.
> I looked at memory usage, and once you load an image, loading the next
> one doesn't fully free up the resources used by the first.
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> Quoting ""John Mellor"" <John@Kungfu-tse.net>:
>
> >  I never use desktop icons, preferring to put my icons in categorised
> >  Rox panels.  However, it seems to me that you could 'Show Desktop'
> >  simply by opening a spare workspace - call it Desktop.  If you have
> >  the workspace switching buttons on the icewm toolbar then you will
> >  have a button marked Desktop that gives you a desktop full of icons
> >  with no windows.  Or am I missing something?
> >
> >  John
> >
> >  On September 19, 8:10 pm Peter Nome <pe...@co...> wrote:
> > >
> > >  I see in the recent discussion on the development list that people
> > >  are working on a ShowDesktop icon and function. Could somebody tell
> > >  me what this project is about?
> > >  I'm currently just opening a kfm window, turning off toolbars, to
> > >  create a kind of desktop, and this works well. I defined a new
> > >  session in konqueror called Desktop that simply shows my desktop
> > >  directory under KDE. However, the folder doesn't remember icon
> > >  positions, and I'm sure there are more elegant solutions.
> > >  Cheers,
> > >  Peter
> > >
> > >
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