Re: [Rosegarden-user] question about entering TIE symbols in rosegarden 10.02

[D. M. M. <mic...@ro...>]

On Saturday, December 04, 2010, Peter Knaggs wrote:

> bar 18 in image file 1959-2.gif


> Rosegarden doesn't let me enter the tie between the first D (shown as a 1/2
> note, I guess it should be a 1/4 note,

No, it's supposed to be a half note.  What you have there are two voices 
running in the same part.  Starting in bar 17, you've got part A running the 
figure:

   4 4 4 8 8

Then part B is running the figure:

   2   2

That kind of thing is present throughout the remainder of the piece, and 
occurs on the bass staff as well.

Rosegarden can only do a proper job of notating music that has one voice per 
segment.  That means this particular piece is going to be kind of a pain in 
the butt to enter, but scanning ahead from the trouble spot, I don't see 
anything Rosegarden can't be made to do with some persistence.

So the easiest way to go about entering the rest of this from 17 on is to 
enter the A part (4 4 4 8 8) in the primary segment you're editing, then (in 
10.x) you can use the "Add Layer" function (Ctrl+Alt++) to create a new 
overlapping layer segment on top of the one you're editing.

What's supposed to happen is that this new segment becomes active immediately, 
and ready to receive notation, but I think that got broken.  Look in the lower 
left of the screen, and you should see a red wheel inside a blue box (assuming 
default colors).  If the box is yellow, you will need to use the red wheel to 
change the active layer to the blue segment.  Each new layer is created with a 
color different from the previous one, and the color is the only good 
indication of which of these overlapping segments is active at the moment.

Once you get to the point where you're inserting notes into your new segment, 
entering voice B is pretty straightforward unless there are rests.  You will 
have to make rests invisible manually, and there is as yet no really sane way 
to deal with the problem of all the various rests globbing together in the 
middle of the segment.

You may occasionally run into situations where it is so difficult to work with 
both segments on the same staff that it is more prudent to open one of the 
segments separately.  If so, you can select it individually from the main 
window, and edit it from there.

This whole business of working with overlapping segments on the same staff is 
still a bit of a work in progress, I'm afraid, but it should work well enough 
to allow you to achieve your goal here.
-- 
D. Michael McIntyre