From: Erik M. J. <eri...@te...> - 2007-02-14 09:21:25
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Hello everyone! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Cannam" <ca...@al...> To: <ros...@li...> Cc: "Heikki Johannes Junes" <hj...@gm...> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [Rosegarden-devel] Wrong preset clef > > Hm. So the evidence seems to suggest the guitar and the tenor voice > should use treble -8 rather than treble -15. EMJ: Yes, certainly. But your question, Chris, in an earlier posting, about tenor singers not using the tenor clef, was very legitimate, at least in say mid-nineteenth century. Until around 1800 tenor singers were fluent readers of the tenor clef, but during the 1800-hundreds singers were less and less expected to be that well-educated so the general use of the treble clef ottava bassa began; first with the ottava bassa function implicit and only obvious from the context, then (especially in Italy) with the double treble clef, and then finally with the number 8 below the treble clef. But again, with regard to your question, the tenor clef was created for the tenor voice since it could notate the whole range of this voice without ledger lines (C3-F4), so why not use it for tenor parts today? > The following other instruments in the presets file also use guitar > clef. Does anything here look like it wants a treble clef at -15 > rather than -8? EMJ: No. The guitar clef is the treble clef ottava bassa (-8). The treble clef quindicesima bassa (-15) is very uncommon and does not have a special range name or instrument name as far as I know. > Alto guitar > Guitar (prim) > Steel string guitar > 12-string guitar > Electric guitar > Banjo (5-string) > Tenor banjo > Bass flute > Baritone oboe > Heckelphone > Tenor crumhorn > Tenor cornamuse > Alto chalumeau > Tenor chalumeau > Orff bass metallophone > Orff bass xylophone Regards, Magnus |