From: Toni A. <ton...@bl...> - 2004-11-26 13:58:07
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Hi > 1) how can i use hydrogen as it sounds on the hydrogen programm in RG? If you want to use hydrogen as it sounds, then hydrogen is your sound engine. If hydrogen is running, it is listed in "Manage MIDI devices" in RG as "Play device". Select that instrument for the hydrogen MIDI track in RG. > 2) you guys told me to output the sound of RG back in my keyboard since RG > does not play midi ... To make this clear: RG does never produce sound by itself (except when playing audio tracks). If you send MIDI to any device (hydrogen, XP 80, qsynth or whatever) then the device produces the sound, not RG. What you can do is to connect the audio out of the XP 80 to your soundcard's line input and record it as audio, either within RG (problematic) or with e.g. ardour (http://ardour.org/). In configure Rosegarden -> Sequencer you can set JACK transport mode to "Sync", and in ardour you can do the same via Windows -> Options editor -> Sync -> Positional Sync -> Sync with JACK. By this way, ardour automatically is synchronized with RG when you press the play or the record button. > ok..but now i only can hear one instrument even if i > have 3 tracks with 3 different instruments recorded. By above way, you can record as much tracks as you want in ardour. If you have 3 tracks with 3 different instruments, you can record them one by one. If you play them together, it is the soundcard which produces the recorded sound and not the XP 80 or qsynth. > My Roland XP 80 only > gives me 1 sound/instrument at the time This contradicts its feature list which says that it is 16-times multitimbral which means that it can play 16 instruments at a time. Look at the XP 80 manual to find out how exactly multi-timbrality is managed on that device. > and the one that's selected at the > time of playing what's recorded, not the one i chose to record. As far as I see there is no Roalnd-XP-80 in the RG library yet (Manage MIDI devices -> Import). As I don't know that synth, I cannot say which instrument definition will be the most similar or if you even have to create it from scratch. The point is: if you don't select a Bank and a Program in the instrument parameters panel of the track, you will always hear what's selected on the keyboard. If you select one in the panel, RG will choose that instrument when playing. For being able to select one, you must assign a non-anonymous instrument to your MIDI device and select that instrument for the track. > 3) anyway: i have a sound card via 8235 (chip Realtek ALC 202 rev0) so if > i understand in the tutorial (2.1.3.2 ) , this card has no synth support > under alsa. SO i need to use Qsynth , for example. Only if you want your sound card to produce sound out of MIDI signals coming from RG or your XP-80. If you like the sound of the XP-80, you don't need qsynth at all - you send MIDI to the XP-80, it will produce the sound you want, and then you record, mix and play it as audio. > keyboard, so the sound recorded from the keyboard is modified by Qsynth > .... i finally have no use of my keyboard!!! As I understand, you never have "recorded" the sound from the keyboard, but only the MIDI signals (which basically describe which note to play when). Thus qsynth does not "modify" the sound, it produces it from scratch. > 4) SO in order to reproduce the exact sound of my XP 80 , do i need to > change my card into a card with synth support under alsa? That will not help, even if you had a soundfont for all preset sounds of your XP 80: it will not reproduce e.g. additional effects. If you want the exact sound of your XP 80, then you'll have to use your XP 80 to produce that sound. > To conclude ,and to make it clear : i would like to record a sound from my > XP 80 and have the same sound coming out of my PCand not of keyboard To summarize: "record a sound" is audio and not MIDI. If you record MIDI, you always need a device to produce sound you can hear. If you record audio, you hear what you recorded - but you cannot edit it as you can edit MIDI tracks in RG (change notes, velocity, tempo etc. which is basically what RG is designed for). > which seems to be useless if you want to record midi and audio together.) . Not at all. If you sync RG with ardour, you can record simultaneously the MIDI signals in RG and the audio signals in ardour. But you don't even need to record it simultaneously: record MIDI in RG, send the MIDI signals back to your XP 80 and while it plays, record it as audio in a second step. > I probably missed some stuff but jesus, it is not easy.... It is not, I know... Regards Toni |