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From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-11 14:17:51
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--- Per-Anders Glans <PA...@lb...> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:46:35PM +0100, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Z F writes: > > > When I retrieve citations, the citation with the highest ID > number > > > always has "ER -" twice in the body of the reference. > > > > > > Did anybody notice a similar behavior? I am using refdb V. > 0.9.6-pre3 > > > > > > > Not here on FreeBSD 5.4. Does anyone else see this behaviour? If > so, > > please indicate your platform, maybe there's a pattern that helps > to > > find the bug. > > I don't see it on Debian testing/unstable, RefDB 0.9.6, MySQL 5.0.18, > > libdbi 0.8.1. I have very similar setup. Debian unstable with the latest packages of mysql5. Anders, I am curious how you installed refdb on your system as I could not install it from the available packages, I had to recompile libdbd-mysql driver. Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-11 14:13:34
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Hello Markus, > RefDB relies entirely on the database engine for queries. If the > engine does regexp comparisons in a case-sensitive fashion, then > RefDB > does the same. If you badly need one particular behaviour, you > may get closer by switching to a different engine. Some more > background can be found here: > > http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=9292940 This is what I thought. MySQL does the right thing when using = and ~ on the text fields. As far as I understood, author name and title are text fields. Am I wrong? If yes, the comparison should work correctly. However, comparisons on the author field work in case-insensitive way, while comparisons on the title field are case sensitive. So this suggests that author field is text, while title field is somethign else. Is there logic behind this? According to documentation both fields are alphanumeric. Thanks for your help Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Per-Anders G. <PA...@lb...> - 2006-02-10 22:59:46
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On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 11:46:35PM +0100, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Hi, > > Z F writes: > > When I retrieve citations, the citation with the highest ID number > > always has "ER -" twice in the body of the reference. > > > > Did anybody notice a similar behavior? I am using refdb V. 0.9.6-pre3 > > > > Not here on FreeBSD 5.4. Does anyone else see this behaviour? If so, > please indicate your platform, maybe there's a pattern that helps to > find the bug. I don't see it on Debian testing/unstable, RefDB 0.9.6, MySQL 5.0.18, libdbi 0.8.1. Regards, Anders |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-10 22:49:11
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Hi, Z F writes: > When I retrieve citations, the citation with the highest ID number > always has "ER -" twice in the body of the reference. > > Did anybody notice a similar behavior? I am using refdb V. 0.9.6-pre3 > Not here on FreeBSD 5.4. Does anyone else see this behaviour? If so, please indicate your platform, maybe there's a pattern that helps to find the bug. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-10 22:39:40
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Hi, Z F writes: > Anyway, it seems to me that when a comparison of text field is made > with ~ (or probably with ^ and $) the comparison should not be case > sensitive. That is if I search with > > :TI:~basing > > I should get enteries containing "basing" and "BaSinG" on the output. > I think it would greately improve the search. > > THis is done for some of fields (AU for example) but for the title it > is not. I would think, searches of alphanumeric fields should be case > insensitive. One may argue that even = and != operations should not > be case sensitive. > RefDB relies entirely on the database engine for queries. If the engine does regexp comparisons in a case-sensitive fashion, then RefDB does the same. If you badly need one particular behaviour, you may get closer by switching to a different engine. Some more background can be found here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=9292940 regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-10 21:54:03
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Hello everybody, When I retrieve citations, the citation with the highest ID number always has "ER -" twice in the body of the reference. Did anybody notice a similar behavior? I am using refdb V. 0.9.6-pre3 Thanks Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-10 20:15:41
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Hello everybody, Finally, I have started playing with the refdb and it is very very nice. I wish I had it when I was writing my thesis. Anyway, it seems to me that when a comparison of text field is made with ~ (or probably with ^ and $) the comparison should not be case sensitive. That is if I search with :TI:~basing I should get enteries containing "basing" and "BaSinG" on the output. I think it would greately improve the search. THis is done for some of fields (AU for example) but for the title it is not. I would think, searches of alphanumeric fields should be case insensitive. One may argue that even = and != operations should not be case sensitive. What is the view on this topic? What is the common approach? Thanks, Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-10 09:10:36
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Hi, Z F <mai...@ya...> was heard to say: > If one wants to get all fields then, it appears that refdbc -F switch > requires "all" option instead of "ALL" which is stated in the > documentation. It might be that refdbc should not be case sensitive, > but it is. Am I correct? > Not quite. The server checks for the string "ALL", so the argument is case sensitive. "all" seems to work better in your experiments due to a bug that I just discovered. For some reasons, retrieving extended notes along with a reference ceased to work. For the time being you should avoid using "ALL" and list the additional fields explicitly. To reproduce the problem, try getref :ID:=1 -s ALL This will fail, just like getref :ID:=1 -s NX whereas getref :ID:=1 -s URL1L2L3L4N1N2AVRP works ok. I'll have to find out what's going wrong with the extended notes. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-10 08:34:35
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Hi, Z F <mai...@ya...> was heard to say: > Ok, the reason I asked was if there is another library which is named > the same. I thought there is some consensus on how libraries should be > named. > Ah, I see. The driver name is basically "lib" . "dbd" . "$dbserver" in Perl speak. The "dbd" is used to distinguish the driver from the database engine client library which may happen to use a similar name. Having two libraries with the same name results in packaging problems even if the libraries are to be installed in different directories. E.g. the SQLite client library is called libsqlite, therefore we call the driver libdbdsqlite. SQLite version 3 uses a different client library libsqlite3, hence our driver is libdbdsqlite3. Currently there is no policy in place how to name two different drivers for the same database engine client library as we didn't run into this problem yet. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-09 22:17:52
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Hello Markus and everybody If one wants to get all fields then, it appears that refdbc -F switch requires "all" option instead of "ALL" which is stated in the documentation. It might be that refdbc should not be case sensitive, but it is. Am I correct? Thanks Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-09 20:20:24
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Hello Markus --- Markus Hoenicka <mar...@mh...> wrote: > Basically I appreciate this, but I'll have to learn how to generate a > package > repository which I can upload to refdb.sourceforge.net. So far I > simply > uploaded whatever David Nebauer would send me. I understand your logic. I have sent you what I did. I will try to understand more and if I do, I will send you an update on how it can be done. > The filename is not important. Each driver has a builtin name which > is not > necessarily related to the library name. libdbi simply loads all > available > drivers regardless of their filenames. Your app accesses the drivers > by the > internal name only. The library name is set in the Makefile.am in the > source > directory of each driver. Ok, the reason I asked was if there is another library which is named the same. I thought there is some consensus on how libraries should be named. Thanks Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-09 09:20:14
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Hi, Z F <mai...@ya...> was heard to say: > This produced a new libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1_i386.deb package > which can be installed and works. > This is good. I'm glad this finally worked out. > I can send it to you, but here are some questions: Basically I appreciate this, but I'll have to learn how to generate a package repository which I can upload to refdb.sourceforge.net. So far I simply uploaded whatever David Nebauer would send me. > > 1. It appears that libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1_i386.deb from refdb web site > is not built from the corresponing .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz also > available there (this is obvious because of difference in names of > the libraries installed by the binary package and by what is in the > source one). This is a rhetorical question. > This is a longer story, but basically the reason is that David, who kindly provided the .debs so far, did not use the /debian subdir in the sources but rolled his own modifications. > 2. Is the name of the library important? I can not seem to understand > how to change it :( I will have to dig more if needed and since > I have never built a package before, it might take a long time. > The filename is not important. Each driver has a builtin name which is not necessarily related to the library name. libdbi simply loads all available drivers regardless of their filenames. Your app accesses the drivers by the internal name only. The library name is set in the Makefile.am in the source directory of each driver. > 3. How the name of the package needs to be changed? simply 0.8.1-2? > 4. How is all of this reflected on people who use libmysqlclient12? > I guess so. The dependencies of the package would need to be modified so that the new version depends on libmysqlclient15. The difference might best be explained on the libdbi-drivers web page. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-09 08:02:09
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Jeremy Malcolm <Je...@Ma...> was heard to say: > > Could you please give this one a try? > > I now get /usr/local/bin/runbib: line 319: 6706 Bus error > I'm at a loss here. I've tested your stylesheet and your test document yesterday, and neither pre2 nor pre3 made any complaints. Valgrind does not detect any illegal memory operations (except some leaks, but they don't affect stability). Bugs are hard to find if you can't reproduce them. I'm afraid I have to ask you for an updated test kit. Could you please send me all data necessary to crash the app (all references in RIS or risx format, your current style, and your SGML document)? I'll have a chance to test this on both Debian and FreeBSD on the weekend. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Jeremy M. <Je...@Ma...> - 2006-02-09 01:51:27
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Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Jeremy Malcolm writes: > > > Which version did you use previously? > > > > 0.9.7-pre1 > > > > To the best of my knowledge there should be no need to update any > databases. I didn't change anything here since pre1. Do the problems > disappear if you move back to pre1? Yes. It is a problem that was introduced with pre2. > In any case, valgrind complained about an unitialized value in the > bibliography generation code. I have no idea whether this is related > to your current problem. I've fixed this and a couple of other minor > things. I've uploaded a (yet inofficial) prerelease right here: > > http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/refdb-0.9.7-pre3.tar.gz > > Could you please give this one a try? I now get /usr/local/bin/runbib: line 319: 6706 Bus error -- JEREMY MALCOLM <Je...@Ma...> - lawyer, IT consultant and actor. Internet and Open Source specialist. Web site: http://www.malcolm.id.au. Disclaimer: http://www.terminus.net.au/disclaimer.html. GPG key: finger. |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-08 21:26:28
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Dear Markus, Since only libdbi mysql driver needs to be rebuild (libdbd-mysql package) here is what I have done. 1. get libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1.diff.gz libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1.dsc libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1.orig.tar.gz from http://refdb.sourceforge.net/debian/cvs/pool/l/libdbd-mysql/ The hope was to simply rebuild it with libmysqlclient15 (instead of libmysqlclient12) library. Unfortunately, the above package contains only compiled libraries and the all the files needed to build the package but not the source. The binary file with the library is named libdmysql.so So, 2. get libdbi-drivers-0.8.1 sources from http://libdbi-drivers.sourceforge.net/ compile the drivers. This created the binary library named libdbdmysql.so 3. Copy the new driver library (from step 2) to the library file of step 1 and build the package (fakeroot debian/rules binary) This produced a new libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1_i386.deb package which can be installed and works. I can send it to you, but here are some questions: 1. It appears that libdbd-mysql_0.8.1-1_i386.deb from refdb web site is not built from the corresponing .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz also available there (this is obvious because of difference in names of the libraries installed by the binary package and by what is in the source one). This is a rhetorical question. 2. Is the name of the library important? I can not seem to understand how to change it :( I will have to dig more if needed and since I have never built a package before, it might take a long time. 3. How the name of the package needs to be changed? simply 0.8.1-2? 4. How is all of this reflected on people who use libmysqlclient12? As to my original problem, I now can connect to the database and create users. I also put some references (as a regular user) into the citation database and can get them back. Now, the learning of the refdb user interface starts and the installation of the web interface. Thanks for your help. With best wishes, Lazar --- Markus Hoenicka <mar...@mh...> wrote: > Z F <mai...@ya...> was heard to say: > > > > > I understand why libdbi and libdbi-drives need to be recompiled. > > But why do I need to recompile refdb? I thought, the interface is > > standard, and only internal things related to the driver need to be > > changed. Am I correct? Or interface was changed too? > > > > I advised you so to be on the safe side, as the RefDB packages would > require the > libdbi and libdbi-drivers packages, so rebuilding only the driver > might result > in the drivers being overwritten at a later stage. If you build > libdbi-drivers, > and install this driver manually, then you should end up with a > working setup, > but I'm not sure what happens if you next run apt-get. But if you > know what > you're doing, all you really need is the rebuilt mysql driver. > > regards, > Markus > > -- > Markus Hoenicka > mar...@ca... > (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") > http://www.mhoenicka.de > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-08 21:04:31
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Jeremy Malcolm writes: > > Which version did you use previously? > > 0.9.7-pre1 > To the best of my knowledge there should be no need to update any databases. I didn't change anything here since pre1. Do the problems disappear if you move back to pre1? In any case, valgrind complained about an unitialized value in the bibliography generation code. I have no idea whether this is related to your current problem. I've fixed this and a couple of other minor things. I've uploaded a (yet inofficial) prerelease right here: http://refdb.sourceforge.net/pre/refdb-0.9.7-pre3.tar.gz Could you please give this one a try? regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-08 20:09:12
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$,1 .(Bo$,1 /(Bo writes: > Strange, > > Osvaldo could read it without any problem. Till now noone complained. > I am writing it via gmail web interface in Mozilla. And I always use > to use plain text email. > > do you see it or not? > Turns out this was a problem on my end of the line. While at work I was using the web interface to my mailbox, and your message arrived garbled. Now from home, tried and true Emacs + VM have no problems to display your messages. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-08 20:09:12
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$,1 .(Bo$,1 /(Bo writes: > main database is too old or corrupt > refdba: > > I created database as described in administrator manual. > My OS: Debian Sarge. > I used debian packages from refdb debian repository - standard installation. > As database I am using SQLite. > Databaze was created as described in the manual: > clue12:/usr/share/refdb/db# sqlite refdb < > /usr/share/refdb/sql/refdb.dump.sqlite > clue12:/usr/share/refdb/db# ls > refdb > Could you please send me the database file off-list for further analysis? Did anyone else on Debian encounter this problem lately? regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: <do...@gm...> - 2006-02-08 18:29:15
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From: Per-Anders G. <PA...@lb...> - 2006-02-08 17:40:54
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On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 05:45:23PM +0100, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > Sorry, not better in any way. Can anyone else read these posts? Is it j= ust me > who sees gibberish? >=20 > Zitat von =C4=8Eo=C4=8Fo <do...@gm...>: >=20 Cut and pasted: Seems to be I did not send it as plain text. I do not know how, but here is my email again. Hi, I found RefDB few days ago and I wanted to install it. I even red the manual and step by step executing all the steps. Unfortunately I finished with viewstat: refdba: set serverip 127.0.0.1 port 9734 verbose f pager less username joeuser timeout 180 logfile /var/log/refdba.log logdest FILE loglevel INFO refdblib refdba: viewstat main database is too old or corrupt refdba: I created database as described in administrator manual. My OS: Debian Sarge. I used debian packages from refdb debian repository - standard installati= on. As database I am using SQLite. Databaze was created as described in the manual: clue12:/usr/share/refdb/db# sqlite refdb < /usr/share/refdb/sql/refdb.dump.sqlite clue12:/usr/share/refdb/db# ls refdb For me it looks like incompatibility between binaries version and database format. But may be I am complitely wrong. Could someone help me please? thanks Jozef |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-08 16:45:40
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Sorry, not better in any way. Can anyone else read these posts? Is it jus= t me who sees gibberish? Zitat von =C4=8Eo=C4=8Fo <do...@gm...>: > --=20 Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-08 16:34:51
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Z F <mai...@ya...> was heard to say: > > I understand why libdbi and libdbi-drives need to be recompiled. > But why do I need to recompile refdb? I thought, the interface is > standard, and only internal things related to the driver need to be > changed. Am I correct? Or interface was changed too? > I advised you so to be on the safe side, as the RefDB packages would require the libdbi and libdbi-drivers packages, so rebuilding only the driver might result in the drivers being overwritten at a later stage. If you build libdbi-drivers, and install this driver manually, then you should end up with a working setup, but I'm not sure what happens if you next run apt-get. But if you know what you're doing, all you really need is the rebuilt mysql driver. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |
From: Z F <mai...@ya...> - 2006-02-08 16:22:17
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Hello Markus, --- Markus Hoenicka <mar...@mh...> wrote: > I see two options: > > 1) downgrade MySQL to 4.x (mysql-server, mysql-client, > libmysqlclient, > libmysqlclient-dev...) Before I go this route, let me try the second one. > > 2) Deinstall the RefDB and libdbi packages, upgrade everything > cleanly to MySQL > 5.x (same packages as above), and then build libdbi and RefDB from > the sources. > FreeBSD and Debian are the platforms that saw most of the development > and > packaging work ever done with RefDB and libdbi, so you should be able > to build > both out of the box. > I understand why libdbi and libdbi-drives need to be recompiled. But why do I need to recompile refdb? I thought, the interface is standard, and only internal things related to the driver need to be changed. Am I correct? Or interface was changed too? Thanks Lazar __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com |
From: <do...@gm...> - 2006-02-08 16:08:38
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From: Markus H. <mar...@mh...> - 2006-02-08 15:31:47
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I'm sorry but I can't read your message. Is this encrypted or encoded in = a way regular mail programs can't read? =C4=8Eo=C4=8Fo <do...@gm...>: > --=20 Markus Hoenicka mar...@ca... (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with "mhoenicka") http://www.mhoenicka.de |