Re: [ros-kernel] Forward: "ReactOS is too limited"

[Joachim B. <jmb...@gm...>]

Casper Hornstrup <ch...@us...> writes:

> s=F8n, 2002-06-02 kl. 15:40 skrev KJK::Hyperion:
>> ssh -n foo WinWord.exe \\bar\usr\home\bill\baz.doc. The
>> possibilities are endless.
>
> Convince Microsoft that there are enough customers that would pay for
> these featues.
>
>> The last example is especially interesting: it starts Word on the remote=
 machine foo=20
>> through ssh, using the local display, opening a file from bill's home=20
>> directory, on the remote machine bar, through SMB
>
> Something similar can be accomplished with Windows XP's remote desktop.
> You connect to foo from your client. You then get your desktop like you
> would have logged on to foo locally.

That's one other point of 'conceptual divergence' I have with win32: I
do not want to redirect a whole desktop just to make 3 clicks in an
admin application which should really have a (convenient) gui-less
interface as well, anyway... Just my opinion.

For me, it is easier and less time consuming to do
  ssh root@wedgedbox -c \
    "killall -TERM sendmail; sleep 10; killall -KILL sendmail; \
     sleep 5; /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart"
than
  vnc -bla -blo winbox / Terminal Services / ...
  [login]
  [start control app, TaskMan, whatever]
  [click, clack, cluck]
  [logout]

The point being that I can run the ssh command and then do something
else, maybe check on its output a minute later, whereas desktop
redirection requires me to actually "use" a GUI tunneled through a
(usually) high-latency line - and that always sucks. I do not
particularly care for X, but ssh/X-Forwarding is still handling single
X apps at least a bit more gracefully than the Win remote desktop
stuff I've seen so far. And I don't see much of a point of running the
whole desktop remotely - although I do find it useful to be able to do
so to "help" customers or check up their account settings (autostart,
program icons/links, ...)

"Remotely" for me as used above is "beyond a WAN" - running remote
desktops on a LAN is something I regularly do, where X still feels
more 'local' than Terminal Services to me.

Again, today *ix gives me a choice: ssh command line, ssh X-Forwarding
of single apps, VNC for the complete desktop.


So long,
   Joe

--=20
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 word processor."
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