Re: [Razor-users] Safeguards against havesting agents

[Dafydd W. <da...@wa...>]

> Does this make sense?

Yes.  I didn't realize it worked in this way.  This is excellent.  Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Vance" <st...@we...>
To: "Dafydd Walters" <da...@wa...>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [Razor-users] Safeguards against havesting agents


> There are other anti-spam mechanisms that work that way, but not Razor. It
is
> not "what e-mail address did this come from?" that causes a message to be
> blocked by Razor, but rather the checksum of the message itself. So, if
you
> accidentally reported a message from your mom to Razor, the only ill
effect
> would be that your mom would not be able to send that same message to any
other
> Razor user, it would be blocked. Does this make sense? If a worm is
reported to
> Razor, then any other worm messages with that same message body would be
blocked
> by other razor users, so that is a good thing.
>
>    stv
>
> Dafydd Walters wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm new to this list and am considering using Razor.  I have a couple of
> > questions about how Razor deals with possible misinterpretation of email
> > worms as spam, and whether it is possible to "de-register" an falsely
> > categorized email address.
> >
> > Take this scenario:
> >
> > You receive an email from me that looks like an email worm - my email
> > address was harvested from a web site, as is the M.O. of some of the
most
> > recent worms, so I am as much an innocent victim of this as you are.
Let's
> > suppose that the message has the usual junky subject line like "look at
this
> > program", or "I have a file for you", etc.  You might well interpret
this as
> > spam and register it at Razor.  Now if two or three people do this, is
> > anything thenceforth from my email address considered spam by Razor?
> >
> > I suspect the answer is yes, which leads me to my second question, which
is
> > in two parts.
> >
> > (a) If I am an innocent victim of a worm as described in my scenario
above,
> > is there a way I can tell if my email address has been blacklisted, and
if
> > so, is there a way to go about de-listing it?
> >
> > (b) Is it worth considering an enhancement to Razor to allow it to
> > distinguish between worms and spam?  For example, would it be possible
to
> > have a Worm category as well as a Spam category, so that if I receive
> > something that looks more like an email worm than spam, I can tell Razor
> > that I believe it is the former, rather than the latter.  If Razor then
> > receives notifications from other people (be they worm or spam), it
would
> > know that it should not blacklist that email address.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dafydd.
> >
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