Re: [Rainbowportal-devel] installation still needs a LOT of improvement

[Chris F. <ch...@cf...>]

Manu,
   Steps often fail, otherwise the installation forum would be dead.

What needs to be added.
-wizard support for setup and testing of database connection 
string??  Check if the
server IP is valid, if the database exists, if the user has login rights, 
if the user has
dbo rights.
-wizard support to setup error logging/reporting.
-make it easy for them to know what went wrong for setups/update.
-some type of wizard for configuration.

-Optional.  Why not provide a blank db for some users instead of making 
them create
it?  Would bypass one of the most troublesome steps.

Documentation is great but only effective if the user reads it.  That is 
one thing I am
trying to work on, have been for a while.  I think the FAQ was a good step 
but it needs
more content.  Each user is going to have their preference towards what 
they want so
some may prefer to ask in forums, others want to solve it themselves.

Chris

At 01:02 PM 11/1/2004 +0100, you wrote:
>I agree with this.
>And from user point of view this is perfect.
>
>I can summarize the rainbow install in 5 words:
>- Unzip
>- Create web folder from the unzipped directory
>- Create an empty db
>- Open web.config and change connection sting to match the db you just 
>created.
>- Browse the site just created and follow the wizard.
>
>Now my question is:
>- What of this is a problem?
>- Which of these steps fails?
>
>The radme.txt I have tried to address the most common problems that
>can happen at installation time.
>There are problems are not covered by readme?
>
>Why rainbow installation fails?
>This is the question. If we want to improve something that is broken
>we need to exactly know WHERE and WHY is broken.
>Of course a newbie cannot answer exactly but on these list there are
>professional that know well IIS, SQL and rainbow and I hope that can
>reply.
>I did my best to do a flawless install.
>
>Before decide how to fix let's try to see why it needs to be fixed and where.
>Sincerely
>
>Manu
>
>
>
>On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 03:30:26 -0500, Charles Carroll
><cha...@gm...> wrote:
> > I disagree.
> >
> > A good installation requires answering one or two questions not reading 
> docs.
> >
> > Better docs are not the answer.
> >
> > Better install is. And NO INSTALL DOCS as neccesary step.
> >
> > In the last 6 months since I started Rainbow, people using the very
> > newest builds have great difficulty installing it. After much
> > frustration in desparation they install DNN, which proceeds
> > flawlessly.
> >
> > On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:45:02 -0800, William L. Forney
> >
> >
> > <bi...@im...> wrote:
> > > The installation questions are often the result of two things:
> > > 1. Poor documentation. Step by step install.txt is needed for newbies.
> > > 2. People trying to use old versions of the code that were broken to 
> begin
> > > with.
> > >
> > > The asp.net forums are now community server :: forums...  search on 
> that and
> > > you'll find them.
> >
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