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Re: [Rails-devel] Rails.1.1.3 to get out?

[Aliza P. <ali...@gm...>]

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:
> [...] get the new release out. [...]
>
> However, the most pressing need for me to get it out is that Stefan Frey has
> sent me a whole load of patches that together implement most of 1889, in any
> case the "Beginners Game". On first sight it seems to work well, but I'm not
> the right person to judge this game as I don't own it and have never played
> it.


I have played 1889 many times; we use it to teach beginners over here.
I'd be happy to playtest it with a few of my imaginary friends, if you
can get me a built version (I still don't have a development
environment here.)

The "beginner's game" for 1889 just has a few extra tiles (so it's
harder to run out of the tile you need) and some slight changes in the
privates.

 - Aliza

[Rails-devel] Rails.1.1.3 to get out?

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Brett & all,

I think the current code base is now stable enough to get the new release
out.

There are a few open issues that I will look at, but can't tell when I can
get those done.

However, the most pressing need for me to get it out is that Stefan Frey has
sent me a whole load of patches that together implement most of 1889, in any
case the "Beginners Game". On first sight it seems to work well, but I'm not
the right person to judge this game as I don't own it and have never played
it.

As these patches affect some of the old code, I don't want to commit it
before 1.1.3 is out, so I'm running greatly out of sync now...

Erik.

Re: [Rails-devel] Net worth update on stock price drop

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Net worth must be specifically triggered to get updated, 
and it is well possible that a few cases have been overlooked.
Each time it is updated, the value should be correct, though.

I will check it out.

Erik.

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Davies [mailto:de...@gm...] 
Sent: Tuesday 02 February 2010 17:09
To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
Subject: [Rails-devel] Net worth update on stock price drop

Whenever the share price drops due to a company witholding or share
sales during an SR, the net worth for the players does not seem to
update correctly.  I've had a brief look but my lack of familiarity
with the overall structure and rather shabby Java skills haven't shed
any light on the issue!

On the plus side, it is easily got round by saving, exiting and
reloading (I assume because after the 'replay' on load, net worth is
updated once at the end?)

I'll keep looking but thought it worth letting someone know, I've seen
this in both 1.1.2 and current HEAD

Phil

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[Rails-devel] Net worth update on stock price drop

[Phil D. <de...@gm...>]

Whenever the share price drops due to a company witholding or share
sales during an SR, the net worth for the players does not seem to
update correctly.  I've had a brief look but my lack of familiarity
with the overall structure and rather shabby Java skills haven't shed
any light on the issue!

On the plus side, it is easily got round by saving, exiting and
reloading (I assume because after the 'replay' on load, net worth is
updated once at the end?)

I'll keep looking but thought it worth letting someone know, I've seen
this in both 1.1.2 and current HEAD

Phil

Re: [Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files

[Rick W. <wes...@pu...>]

Freek Dijkstra wrote:
> Rick Westerman wrote:
>
>   
>>   In addition to tabs vs. space and how much indent you need to think  
>> about:
>>
>>     (1) Space before ending tag;  e.g.,  <Game name="1830"/>  or   
>> <Game  name="1830" /> ... the stock market chart uses spaces at times  
>> and other times not.
>>
>>     (2) Line size?  80 characters maximum?  Or as long as is needed?
>>
>>     (3) Multi-line comments:  Does the end tag come on a separate  
>> line?  How about the beginning tag?
>>
>>    Should there be some requirement for comments (e.g., version or  
>> author) at the top of the XML files?
>>
>> Personally I do not care as long as there is some standard.
>>     
>
> This never bothered me, so I don't care either. If you like this to be
> standardized in some way, pick a choice, and I'll do a batch commit.
>   
   I am not sure if any of us care that much.   But then I don't think 
many of us cared about the space/tab issue either.   If I ever get my 
manual out on how to create a game then I will include some 
recommendations.  Until then we can probably just leave the files as 
they are.

-- 
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Re: [Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

Rick Westerman wrote:

>   In addition to tabs vs. space and how much indent you need to think  
> about:
> 
>     (1) Space before ending tag;  e.g.,  <Game name="1830"/>  or   
> <Game  name="1830" /> ... the stock market chart uses spaces at times  
> and other times not.
> 
>     (2) Line size?  80 characters maximum?  Or as long as is needed?
> 
>     (3) Multi-line comments:  Does the end tag come on a separate  
> line?  How about the beginning tag?
> 
>    Should there be some requirement for comments (e.g., version or  
> author) at the top of the XML files?
> 
> Personally I do not care as long as there is some standard.

This never bothered me, so I don't care either. If you like this to be
standardized in some way, pick a choice, and I'll do a batch commit.

Regards,
Freek

Re: [Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

Freek Dijkstra wrote:
> I know the formatting standard for java code is 4 spaces in this
> project, but how about XML files? That is currently mostly -but not all-
> tabs.

I just did a large commit, only converting spaces and tabs.
The XML files now use tabs     (25 files changed);
the code files now use spaces (110 files changed).

In fact, I don't mind. However, some CompanyManager.xml files freaked my
out, combining tabs, 4-spaces and 2-spaces in a single file. For example
1856/CompanyManager.xml: one indent achieved using 2 spaces, two indents
using 1 tab and three indents using 2 tabs.

I must be neurotic to be bothered by it, but you wouldn't like to see
that part of me, so I'll commited.

Regards,
Freek

Re: [Rails-devel] Tiles

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

brett lentz wrote:

>> So it would not yet be possible to, let's say, display a path on top of
>> the board showing an optimal run for a train

[...]

> Some possible options are:
> [...]
> Maybe there are other options I'm not aware of.

Let's tackle this by the time route calculation is done and we can
generate SVG directly from Tiles.xml.

Both are feasible, but with my current spare time, this can take a
while. Your mileage my vary ;).  (Also the last time I looked at SVG was
in 2002, when SVG 1.1 was not even out).

Regards,
Freek

Re: [Rails-devel] Tiles

[brett l. <wak...@gm...>]

On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Erik Vos <eri...@xs...> wrote:
> So it would not yet be possible to, let's say, display a path on top of
> the board showing an optimal run for a train, since there is no
> algorithm in the Java code to render the (abstract) information in
> Tiles.xml on the board?
>
> [EV] As there is no linkage to the SVG contents, it would not be possible
> (or at least far too hard for me) to highlight routes on the map.
>
> However, nothing prevents anyone to write code to derive routes
> (optimal or not) from the available information in Tiles.xml,
> combined with the knowledge which tiles exist on which hexes in which
> orientation.
> And these routes could of course be displayed in some message area,
> as A5-B6-B8-C7 or whatever.
>
> Erik.


There's a few possible ways to skin that cat.  SVG is an XML-based
format, plus we've got the route metadata in the Tiles XML files.

As I see it, between Swing and Batik, it's possible to draw whatever
you want on the map, using as much or as few data sources as you like.

Some possible options are:

1. Identify the discrete objects within the SVG that constitute a path
from hex-to-hex.
2. Identify routes based solely on the Tiles metadata, and use Swing
to draw on top of the map. The math to calculate the path of the line
is somewhat complex, but not impossible.
3. Some combination of using metadata and the SVG path data to do
interesting things.

Maybe there are other options I'm not aware of.

---Brett.

Re: [Rails-devel] Tiles

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

[EV] Answers below

Out of curiousity, how are tiles created?
So apparently, TileDictionary.18t is (or has been) the base set of tiles
created with Tile Designer. Tile Designer can output to
TileDictionary.xml, which is then converted to Tiles.xml (whose format
is specific for this project), and the relevant contents is copied to
Tiles.xml in the data directory. At the same time, Tiles.xml is used to
create the SVG files.

[EV] No, the SVG tiles are exported from TileDesigner.
See the comments in CombineTiles.pl for the procedure. This script
does the final filling of tiles/svg from 3 different sources:
- tiles with ID (>0, i.e. the layable tiles)
- tiles without ID (<=0, i.e. the preprinted tiles)
- handmade tiles (edited from exported tiles with Inkscape).
I have not checked these 3 source directories into CVS.

So there are two scripts (which are not in the repository) to create tiles:
- Convert TileDictionary.xml to Tiles.xml

[EV} not a script but the Java class rails.util.ConvertTilesXML
(which should move to some tools directory)

- Convert Tiles.xml to the SVG files

[EV] No, see above.

I presume that the conversion from tiles/Tiles.xml to data/*/Tiles.xml
is manual?

[EV] No, that is done with Java class rails.util.MakeGameTileSets 
(should also become a tool). 

Also, the Java engine reads Tiles.xml which is used to know about tracks
and Stations (and Cities), but displays the SVG tile (without verifying
if they match).

[EV] Yes.

Am I correct so far?

[EV] See above corerections.

So it would not yet be possible to, let's say, display a path on top of
the board showing an optimal run for a train, since there is no
algorithm in the Java code to render the (abstract) information in
Tiles.xml on the board?

[EV] As there is no linkage to the SVG contents, it would not be possible
(or at least far too hard for me) to highlight routes on the map.

However, nothing prevents anyone to write code to derive routes
(optimal or not) from the available information in Tiles.xml,
combined with the knowledge which tiles exist on which hexes in which
orientation.
And these routes could of course be displayed in some message area, 
as A5-B6-B8-C7 or whatever.

Erik.

Re: [Rails-devel] 1851 and Birmingham

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

This was reported as a bug recently and is fixed in the latest cvs.  It will
be in the next release.

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2010/1/31 Michał Bażyński <ba...@tl...>

> 1851 and its map - why is J12 (Birmingham) a red off-board city in the
> rails implementation? the maps I see on bgg
> (http://boardgamegeek.com/image/126915/1851?size=original,
> http://boardgamegeek.com/image/123136/1851?size=original) show it is a
> grey town that trains can run through, not a route start/end.
>
>
> mike
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[Rails-devel] 1851 and Birmingham

[Michał B. <ba...@tl...>]

1851 and its map - why is J12 (Birmingham) a red off-board city in the 
rails implementation? the maps I see on bgg 
(http://boardgamegeek.com/image/126915/1851?size=original, 
http://boardgamegeek.com/image/123136/1851?size=original) show it is a 
grey town that trains can run through, not a route start/end.


mike

[Rails-devel] Tiles

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

Erik Vos wrote:

> TileDesigner.xml is an intermediate file created by TileDesigner as a
> oneliner, and used to create Tiles.xml.
> Whenever I want to inspect a new version, I format it with XMLBuddy; if not,
> I don't.

Out of curiousity, how are tiles created?
So apparently, TileDictionary.18t is (or has been) the base set of tiles
created with Tile Designer. Tile Designer can output to
TileDictionary.xml, which is then converted to Tiles.xml (whose format
is specific for this project), and the relevant contents is copied to
Tiles.xml in the data directory. At the same time, Tiles.xml is used to
create the SVG files.

So there are two scripts (which are not in the repository) to create tiles:
- Convert TileDictionary.xml to Tiles.xml
- Convert Tiles.xml to the SVG files

I presume that the conversion from tiles/Tiles.xml to data/*/Tiles.xml
is manual?

Also, the Java engine reads Tiles.xml which is used to know about tracks
and Stations (and Cities), but displays the SVG tile (without verifying
if they match).

Am I correct so far?

So it would not yet be possible to, let's say, display a path on top of
the board showing an optimal run for a train, since there is no
algorithm in the Java code to render the (abstract) information in
Tiles.xml on the board?

Regards,
Freek

Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

> 1. There is no good and hardened installation procedure.
> 2. The properties we're talking about cannot be modified via the GUI, 

As for #1, I suggest to distribute a .exe for Windows, a .app for Mac OS
X and a jar for Linux. If it is an applications that can be moved
around, that would be useful.

As for #2, that would require (a) a GUI interface for preferences and
(b) the preference file to be in the OS/user-specific place.
(...)
I'm willing to have a look at #1 and #2b, but #2a (the GUI) will take
some time, and I can not make any promises about a time frame except for
"sometime this decade, hopefully this year".

------

[EV] Sounds good. Perhaps I can help out with the GUI, but not too soon.

Erik.

Re: [Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

Personally I do not care much about spacing standards at all, as long as the
indentation looks right.
I only manually format Java code (because Eclipses formatting does strange
things when it thinks lines being too long), 
and I usually don't take notice of whether it's done with tabs or spaces.

TileDesigner.xml is an intermediate file created by TileDesigner as a
oneliner, and used to create Tiles.xml.
Whenever I want to inspect a new version, I format it with XMLBuddy; if not,
I don't.

So I would say: feel free to format stuff in any way, and I will try to
follow, but no guarantees.
On line length: 80 is too short for my taste. 100 would be OK.

Erik.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Westerman [mailto:wes...@pu...] 
Sent: Saturday 30 January 2010 22:24
To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files


On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Freek Dijkstra wrote:

> I know the formatting standard for java code is 4 spaces in this
> project, but how about XML files? That is currently mostly -but not  
> all-
> tabs:
>
> 8543  lines with tabs only
> 1715  lines with spaces only
> 390   lines without spaces or tabs
> 68    lines with both spaces and tabs
> 33    empty lines
>
> Also, tiles/TileDictionary.xml is a 355 kiByte file without any  
> carriage
> return, and 1830/CompanyManager.xml contains a spurious ` (backtick)
> character.
>
> I like to clean the formatting. Preferences? tabs or spaces?
>
> Regards,

   I believe that TileDictionary was automatically generated and is  
not meant to be parsed by humans.

   Formatting is one of those issues that drives people crazy in  
shared projects.  I find it very hard to get common formatting  
guidelines or directory structure guidelines enforced unless I make a  
total pain of myself.   That is not to say that some sort of guide  
would be unwelcome.

  In addition to tabs vs. space and how much indent you need to think  
about:

    (1) Space before ending tag;  e.g.,  <Game name="1830"/>  or   
<Game  name="1830" /> ... the stock market chart uses spaces at times  
and other times not.

    (2) Line size?  80 characters maximum?  Or as long as is needed?

    (3) Multi-line comments:  Does the end tag come on a separate  
line?  How about the beginning tag?

   Should there be some requirement for comments (e.g., version or  
author) at the top of the XML files?

Personally I do not care as long as there is some standard.

-- Rick






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Re: [Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files

[Rick W. <wes...@pu...>]

On Jan 30, 2010, at 3:52 PM, Freek Dijkstra wrote:

> I know the formatting standard for java code is 4 spaces in this
> project, but how about XML files? That is currently mostly -but not  
> all-
> tabs:
>
> 8543  lines with tabs only
> 1715  lines with spaces only
> 390   lines without spaces or tabs
> 68    lines with both spaces and tabs
> 33    empty lines
>
> Also, tiles/TileDictionary.xml is a 355 kiByte file without any  
> carriage
> return, and 1830/CompanyManager.xml contains a spurious ` (backtick)
> character.
>
> I like to clean the formatting. Preferences? tabs or spaces?
>
> Regards,

   I believe that TileDictionary was automatically generated and is  
not meant to be parsed by humans.

   Formatting is one of those issues that drives people crazy in  
shared projects.  I find it very hard to get common formatting  
guidelines or directory structure guidelines enforced unless I make a  
total pain of myself.   That is not to say that some sort of guide  
would be unwelcome.

  In addition to tabs vs. space and how much indent you need to think  
about:

    (1) Space before ending tag;  e.g.,  <Game name="1830"/>  or   
<Game  name="1830" /> ... the stock market chart uses spaces at times  
and other times not.

    (2) Line size?  80 characters maximum?  Or as long as is needed?

    (3) Multi-line comments:  Does the end tag come on a separate  
line?  How about the beginning tag?

   Should there be some requirement for comments (e.g., version or  
author) at the top of the XML files?

Personally I do not care as long as there is some standard.

-- Rick

[Rails-devel] Tabs vs spaces in xml files

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

I know the formatting standard for java code is 4 spaces in this
project, but how about XML files? That is currently mostly -but not all-
tabs:

8543  lines with tabs only
1715  lines with spaces only
390   lines without spaces or tabs
68    lines with both spaces and tabs
33    empty lines

Also, tiles/TileDictionary.xml is a 355 kiByte file without any carriage
return, and 1830/CompanyManager.xml contains a spurious ` (backtick)
character.

I like to clean the formatting. Preferences? tabs or spaces?

Regards,
Freek

Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Freek D. <sf_...@ma...>]

Erik Vos wrote:
> It's clear that Rails currently lacks two important features, which make it
> hard to use for computer novices:
> 
> 1. There is no good and hardened installation procedure.
> 2. The properties we're talking about cannot be modified via the GUI, 

As for #1, I suggest to distribute a .exe for Windows, a .app for Mac OS
X and a jar for Linux. If it is an applications that can be moved
around, that would be useful.

As for #2, that would require (a) a GUI interface for preferences and
(b) the preference file to be in the OS/user-specific place.

As for 2b, are these the correct paths?

Windows:   ~\Application Data\Rails\preferences.ini
Mac OS X:  ~/Library/Preferences/net.sf.rails.18xx.ini
Unix:      $HOME/.rails/preferences.ini

This also raises two questions on the log files. What is the best
location for these? The "official" (or at least regular) locations are:
Windows:   ~\Application Data\Rails\18xx.log
Mac OS X:  ~/Library/Logs/18xx.log
Unix:      $HOME/.rails/18xx.log

So far I have not done so, but someone who plays multiple games at once
may want a separate log file for each game. Is that true, and if so,
where should it be stored? Asked as a question in the "new game" dialog?

> So, all we need is a volunteer who knows how to implement these
> requirements, and can make building such installation sets a repeatable
> process. Anyone?

I'm willing to have a look at #1 and #2b, but #2a (the GUI) will take
some time, and I can not make any promises about a time frame except for
"sometime this decade, hopefully this year".

Regards,
Freek

Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Erik V. <eri...@xs...>]

It's clear that Rails currently lacks two important features, which make it
hard to use for computer novices:

1. There is no good and hardened installation procedure. Ideally,
installation would proceed smoothly by running an executable, as so many
other applications have. I suppose we would need separate versions for
Windows, Max and Linux then.

2. The properties we're talking about cannot be modified via the GUI, and
remembered afterwards. The latter requirement implies, that the properties
would be held in a file outside the jar. The installation procedure should
take care of setting that up correctly.

So, all we need is a volunteer who knows how to implement these
requirements, and can make building such installation sets a repeatable
process. Anyone?

Erik.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Black [mailto:jim...@ya...] 
Sent: Saturday 30 January 2010 01:43
To: Development list for Rails: an 18xx game
Subject: Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone


Another comment re: ease-of-use in simply launching rails- re: my.properties
for rails options, and java command-line options (whether buried in bat/sh
files or not) - this approach can be very quickly complicated by
environmental issues-

- the user's current-directory when rails is launched (eg, where rails is
launched, with different users and tables), 

- user difficulty of indirect command associations to java/rails command
lines throughout, vs normal windows/mac application preferences and etc

- running multiple rails versions on one machine- but wanting to maintain
these preferences, once, across versions 

- and, finally, but most problematically- installs and upgrades:  this fixup
needs to be done by the pbem novice, each and every time they download a new
rails package/version.  (to get going properly in the first place, and then
to upgrade later.) 

None of this is at all familiar to the novice- nor necessarily trivial,
either.  

We should hope non-experts will be fine with Rails' defaults, as is;
changing them gets very awkward, quickly, in practice.

On the other hand- on balance, is there a substantial benefit for Rails'
current file-naming default, where all names are coined within the current
user's timezone?   (Rather than simply GMT, for example.)  

best,
 - jim




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Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[brett l. <wak...@gm...>]

Jar files are just glorified zip files.  You can open them with any
tool that allows you to view/extract the contents of a .zip file.

---Brett.



On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> wrote:
> On linux, it just opens up like any directory with files inside. I
> don't know how to do it on Windows or Mac.
>
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> On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Steve Undy <ste...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...
>> > wrote:
>>> I gave up on using the exterior my.properties file due to path
>>> issues (I use
>>> Windows XP, Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux variously, and sometimes
>>> connect from
>>> library workstations) and started editing the one inside the jar file
>>> instead.
>>
>> So I have to ask: how does one do that?
>>
>> Steve Undy
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Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

On linux, it just opens up like any directory with files inside. I  
don't know how to do it on Windows or Mac.

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On Jan 29, 2010, at 6:21 PM, Steve Undy <ste...@gm...>  
wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm... 
> > wrote:
>> I gave up on using the exterior my.properties file due to path  
>> issues (I use
>> Windows XP, Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux variously, and sometimes  
>> connect from
>> library workstations) and started editing the one inside the jar file
>> instead.
>
> So I have to ask: how does one do that?
>
> Steve Undy
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Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Steve U. <ste...@gm...>]

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Chris Shaffer <chr...@gm...> wrote:
> I gave up on using the exterior my.properties file due to path issues (I use
> Windows XP, Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux variously, and sometimes connect from
> library workstations) and started editing the one inside the jar file
> instead.

So I have to ask: how does one do that?

Steve Undy
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Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Chris S. <chr...@gm...>]

I gave up on using the exterior my.properties file due to path issues (I use
Windows XP, Mac OS X and Ubuntu Linux variously, and sometimes connect from
library workstations) and started editing the one inside the jar file
instead.

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Chris

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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Jim Black <ji...@ko...> wrote:

>
> Setting up my.properties, is /harder/ for users than setting the UTC
> timezone argument.  (I still can't get it working, myself.)
>
> I've spent more time helping people with problems related to this one
> default, than anything else about using rails.
>
> sigh- oh, well.
>
>  - jim
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Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Jim B. <ji...@ko...>]

Setting up my.properties, is /harder/ for users than setting the UTC timezone argument.  (I still can't get it working, myself.)

I've spent more time helping people with problems related to this one default, than anything else about using rails.

sigh- oh, well.

 - jim

Re: [Rails-devel] Default timezone

[Jim B. <jim...@ya...>]

Another comment re: ease-of-use in simply launching rails- re: my.properties for rails options, and java command-line options (whether buried in bat/sh files or not) - this approach can be very quickly complicated by environmental issues-

- the user's current-directory when rails is launched (eg, where rails is launched, with different users and tables), 

- user difficulty of indirect command associations to java/rails command lines throughout, vs normal windows/mac application preferences and etc

- running multiple rails versions on one machine- but wanting to maintain these preferences, once, across versions 

- and, finally, but most problematically- installs and upgrades:  this fixup needs to be done by the pbem novice, each and every time they download a new rails package/version.  (to get going properly in the first place, and then to upgrade later.) 

None of this is at all familiar to the novice- nor necessarily trivial, either.  

We should hope non-experts will be fine with Rails' defaults, as is; changing them gets very awkward, quickly, in practice.

On the other hand- on balance, is there a substantial benefit for Rails' current file-naming default, where all names are coined within the current user's timezone?   (Rather than simply GMT, for example.)  

best,
 - jim