Thread: [Qtractor-devel] Automation values
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From: Philip Y. <ph...@gn...> - 2015-12-23 12:52:49
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Hi! Just a quick one on automation Ever since TYOQA, when I use it, it's usually because I played with a plugin control, and decided I wanted its value to go from A to, say B. Sometimes there are more than 2 values. So I set said control to value A, and keep value B in my head. Then I create an automation curve for this control. Now what I'm expecting at that point, is an infinite curve with one point on it, set at value A. Even better for this point would be to be created not at the start to the song, but at the playhead's position. That would make 3 points. I hope I'm making sense. Now depending on the plugin use, I get the curve, but with no actual point on it, and it is "set" at either minimum 0 value, or (seemingly) max value. The control's (current) A position is lost, oh well. But hey, I can work too, I can still retrieve my values and set them. But wait, that will be hard, because there is no indication of the value of the point, neither as tooltip, nor in the messages window, not even stderr. None of this is blocking. Furthermore, I suspect that 1-getting & setting those values at those precise times may be impossible on Qtractor's end, depending of the plugins - please note that I (and my friends) tend to use exclusively LV2 plugins for those reasons - I'm just saying. Now I got to retrieve my values, and it can (probably will, it depends) be long and tedious, specially if the variations are small in between A and B (And C and X) and I spent a lot of time within the plugin setting them up. I had this PB many times and forgot to mention it. It can be a nightmare, what I do is I loop the part, then open the plugin, then watch the control move, then close the plugin, pause everything, adjust the curve points, rinse and repeat :) reminds me a bit of my tracker times when each value had to be manually entered as (hexa) text values :) Phil PS - My life in Qtractor is no longer the same since I know the shift-click trick. You know what would be cool? A continuous contextual status bar keyboard help (what, you don't have a CCSBKH? Sheesh ;)) like the one in Inkscape. If you decide to do it, I can help with filling in all the messages slots -- Philippe "xaccrocheur" Yassin http://manyrecords.com http://bitbucket.org/xaccrocheur / https://github.com/xaccrocheur |
From: Rui N. C. <rn...@rn...> - 2015-12-23 21:18:25
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On 12/23/2015 12:52 PM, Philip Yassin wrote: > Hi! Just a quick one on automation > > Ever since TYOQA, when I use it, it's usually because I played with a > plugin control, and decided I wanted its value to go from A to, say B. > Sometimes there are more than 2 values. > So I set said control to value A, and keep value B in my head. Then I > create an automation curve for this control. > Now what I'm expecting at that point, is an infinite curve with one > point on it, set at value A. > Even better for this point would be to be created not at the start to > the song, but at the playhead's position. That would make 3 points. I > hope I'm making sense. > Now depending on the plugin use, I get the curve, but with no actual > point on it, and it is "set" at either minimum 0 value, or (seemingly) > max value. The control's (current) A position is lost, oh well. > > But hey, I can work too, I can still retrieve my values and set them. > > But wait, that will be hard, because there is no indication of the value > of the point, neither as tooltip, nor in the messages window, not even > stderr. > > None of this is blocking. Furthermore, I suspect that 1-getting & > setting those values at those precise times may be impossible on > Qtractor's end, depending of the plugins - please note that I (and my > friends) tend to use exclusively LV2 plugins for those reasons - I'm > just saying. Now I got to retrieve my values, and it can (probably will, > it depends) be long and tedious, specially if the variations are small > in between A and B (And C and X) and I spent a lot of time within the > plugin setting them up. I had this PB many times and forgot to mention > it. It can be a nightmare, what I do is I loop the part, then open the > plugin, then watch the control move, then close the plugin, pause > everything, adjust the curve points, rinse and repeat :) reminds me a > bit of my tracker times when each value had to be manually entered as > (hexa) text values :) > > Phil > > PS - My life in Qtractor is no longer the same since I know the > shift-click trick. You know what would be cool? A continuous contextual > status bar keyboard help (what, you don't have a CCSBKH? Sheesh ;)) like > the one in Inkscape. If you decide to do it, I can help with filling in > all the messages slots > wow! that was so quick and overwhelming that i've missed the whole question :) just a hunch: have you ever tried double-click on an automation node? ;) hth. cheers -- rncbc aka. Rui Nuno Capela |
From: Rui N. C. <rn...@rn...> - 2015-12-26 13:23:45
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On 12/25/2015 01:55 PM, Philip Yassin wrote: > > On 23/12/2015 21:18, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: >> >> just a hunch: have you ever tried double-click on an automation node? ;) > > Huh, yes I did (sorry for the late holiday-delayed answer) It's nice > (it's great) and all, but why is there no value tooltip prior to > clicking? Tooltips are good! Tips for tools! :) > but there is: hovering for awhile on an automation node does show its tooltip, curve name and value; of course it needs menu View/Tool Tips option turned on. > Happy holidays to everyone!! > cheers -- rncbc aka. Rui Nuno Capela |