Thread: [Qtractor-devel] Playhead click moving
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From: Philip Y. <ph...@gn...> - 2015-12-21 12:22:21
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Hi everyone! It's cold out there and the new Qtractor 0.7.2 is fresh out :) life is peachy I have my empty session in front of me, and something strikes me. When I click in the timeline (I have two tracks, and nothing in it) nothing happens. That must be one of the reasons why the new users that I saw approaching it (not that many but still quite a few) found it "user hostile" (my daughter texted me that /this very morning///, adding that "the interface is even worse than cubase's" das my girl :) I think this is excessive to say the least) sometimes, it does nothing when you expect it to do something. Clicking in the timeline on an empty zone of a track could position the playhead at that location. Heck, even (optionally) in a non-empty zone, when selecting a clip, I can see how some ppl would use it like that. I think I would. At the very least, clicking in the empty zone below the track could do that, instead of doing nothing. I humbly thing it would go a long way towards peace, harmony and downright happiness :) Maybe with the mid... Hey, the middle button /does/ something! It positions the two markers... Wow... All across the timeline window... Countless moons and I didn't know that... Damned, that kinda ruins my previous rambling, well, at least half of it. Now, Qtractor does something. And let me tell you, it is a /very/ nice feeling, moving the markers around with a single click. Oh, and it doesn't mess with an existing loop markers, too, nice. Id love to move the playhead as well that way, instead of this "middle click, forward key (or is the playhead ahead in that case backwards)" foggy business, and come to think of it, I would not mind if that would only move the transcient, invisible "last play position" and not the left & right markers. So that basically would just move the playhead. Can't that be an option? I might add to my case that this is the standard behaviour in the timelines of most of the software I saw. I have Kdenlive opened now, and that is what it does, only with the left mouse button. Doing like the elders say is often a (the) good path :) Second: Is there a technical reason why the "spacebar" play (and the moving between markers) is disabled while a plugin interface is opened? I know it can be solved with a control surface. Aaah, yes, I know. That's because one can have a need for his space key /inside/ the plugin interface to enter letters, like to name a preset. Hm. Feel free to ignore me :/ I guess I just wanted to say hi ;) and thanks again for Qtractor. Hey, why can't we see the list of presets of SynthV1 (which is really a mean polyphonic beast but I already said that) in the track's right-click "preset" menu like in other well-groomed plugins? ;) Phil -- Philippe "xaccrocheur" Yassin http://manyrecords.com http://bitbucket.org/xaccrocheur / https://github.com/xaccrocheur |
From: Rui N. C. <rn...@rn...> - 2015-12-21 16:06:10
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On 12/21/2015 12:22 PM, Philip Yassin wrote: > Hi everyone! > > It's cold out there and the new Qtractor 0.7.2 is fresh out :) life is > peachy > > I have my empty session in front of me, and something strikes me. > When I click in the timeline (I have two tracks, and nothing in it) > nothing happens. > That must be one of the reasons why the new users that I saw approaching > it (not that many but still quite a few) found it "user hostile" (my > daughter texted me that /this very morning///, adding that "the > interface is even worse than cubase's" das my girl :) I think this is > excessive to say the least) sometimes, it does nothing when you expect > it to do something. tell your doughter to make (or text if she likes) some festure requests--even better, nurture her to get into the open-source community and rant away for her self! ;) > Clicking in the timeline on an empty zone of a track could position the > playhead at that location. Heck, even (optionally) in a non-empty zone, > when selecting a clip, I can see how some ppl would use it like that. I > think I would. > At the very least, clicking in the empty zone below the track could do > that, instead of doing nothing. > it's been o long departure from early days, but did you ever thought that shift-click would do exactly what you/she want? > I humbly thing it would go a long way towards peace, harmony and > downright happiness :) > > Maybe with the mid... Hey, the middle button /does/ something! It > positions the two markers... Wow... All across the timeline window... > Countless moons and I didn't know that... Damned, that kinda ruins my > previous rambling, well, at least half of it. Now, Qtractor does > something. And let me tell you, it is a /very/ nice feeling, moving the > markers around with a single click. Oh, and it doesn't mess with an > existing loop markers, too, nice. Id love to move the playhead as well > that way, instead of this "middle click, forward key (or is the playhead > ahead in that case backwards)" foggy business, and come to think of it, > I would not mind if that would only move the transcient, invisible "last > play position" and not the left & right markers. So that basically would > just move the playhead. Can't that be an option? I might add to my case > that this is the standard behaviour in the timelines of most of the > software I saw. I have Kdenlive opened now, and that is what it does, > only with the left mouse button. Doing like the elders say is often a > (the) good path :) middle-click behavior can be optionally reversed... indeed, that was once a long time ago a request from danboid, for which i made it so. i don't always indulge on dan's requests (you can put that most-interesting-man-meme here:) but... just think on tempo ramps and what not :D > > Second: Is there a technical reason why the "spacebar" play (and the > moving between markers) is disabled while a plugin interface is opened? > I know it can be solved with a control surface. Aaah, yes, I know. > That's because one can have a need for his space key /inside/ the plugin > interface to enter letters, like to name a preset. Hm. Feel free to > ignore me :/ > spacebar is a hard-coded keyboard shortcut (cf. Help/Shortcuts...) and as such it only works when the main window is in focus. that said, when any other window gets on top, like some plugins GUI's do, qtractor is blind-folded re. keyboard shortcuts. and yes, MIDI controller shortcuts don't suffer from this GUI window focus state-of-things. :) > I guess I just wanted to say hi ;) and thanks again for Qtractor. Hey, > why can't we see the list of presets of SynthV1 (which is really a mean > polyphonic beast but I already said that) in the track's right-click > "preset" menu like in other well-groomed plugins? ;) > there are synthv1 presets and there are, otoh. qtractor named presets, which includes system wide lv2 presets btw. the later are the ones you have access from the generic plugin/properties... dialog. the former are specific to the plugin in question. that said, you can certainly map ones into the others. i guess that will be straightforward once you realize the difference. hth. cheers -- rncbc aka. Rui Nuno Capela |