Thread: [Qtractor-devel] Happy Bunny :)
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From: Will G. <wil...@mu...> - 2015-12-10 20:53:16
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Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. All works very smoothly, and when running a fairly complex composition, Qjackctl is reporting just about the same DSP load as feeding MIDI direct to Yoshimi via aplaymidi. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. |
From: Rui N. C. <rn...@rn...> - 2015-12-11 09:08:23
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On 2015-12-10 20:53, Will Godfrey wrote: > Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. > > All works very smoothly, and when running a fairly complex composition, > Qjackctl > is reporting just about the same DSP load as feeding MIDI direct to > Yoshimi via > aplaymidi. thanks Will. btw. as LV2, have you tried to render to audio (menu Track/Export Tracks.../Audio) ? cheers -- rncbc aka. Rui Nuno Capela |
From: Will G. <wil...@mu...> - 2015-12-11 11:38:56
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On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:55:43 +0000 Rui Nuno Capela <rn...@rn...> wrote: > On 2015-12-10 20:53, Will Godfrey wrote: > > Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. > > > > All works very smoothly, and when running a fairly complex composition, > > Qjackctl > > is reporting just about the same DSP load as feeding MIDI direct to > > Yoshimi via > > aplaymidi. > > thanks Will. > > btw. as LV2, have you tried to render to audio (menu Track/Export > Tracks.../Audio) ? > > > cheers I didn't know you could do that! Just tried it with one of my test files. This contains bank and program changes as well as volume and pan settings. If it is done from a 'clean' Yoshimi it gets the volume and pan settings wrong (I think it is just not seeing them). If it has been played through first, it gets them right - although it would probably miss changes in the middle of the tracks (there aren't any). Volume and pan are CCs embedded in the individual tracks shortly after the bank and program changes. How odd - I can't seem to reproduce that fault now :? Either way it chops off the end. I suspect it's looking at the last note-off and not allowing for the effect of reverbs and slow note release - which I use quite a lot of :) Apart from that it's rather impressive! -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. |
From: Philip Y. <ph...@gn...> - 2015-12-11 12:09:36
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On 11/12/2015 11:38, Will Godfrey wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 08:55:43 +0000 > Rui Nuno Capela <rn...@rn...> wrote: > >> On 2015-12-10 20:53, Will Godfrey wrote: >>> Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. >>> >>> All works very smoothly, and when running a fairly complex composition, >>> Qjackctl >>> is reporting just about the same DSP load as feeding MIDI direct to >>> Yoshimi via >>> aplaymidi. >> thanks Will. >> >> btw. as LV2, have you tried to render to audio (menu Track/Export >> Tracks.../Audio) ? >> >> >> cheers > I didn't know you could do that! > > Just tried it with one of my test files. This contains bank and program changes > as well as volume and pan settings. > > If it is done from a 'clean' Yoshimi it gets the volume and pan settings wrong > (I think it is just not seeing them). If it has been played through first, it > gets them right - although it would probably miss changes in the middle of the > tracks (there aren't any). > > Volume and pan are CCs embedded in the individual tracks shortly after the bank > and program changes. > > How odd - I can't seem to reproduce that fault now :? > > Either way it chops off the end. I suspect it's looking at the last note-off > and not allowing for the effect of reverbs and slow note release - which I use > quite a lot of :) That makes me think of something happening with the QMIDIArp LV2 plugin, that prevents the start (well, the 1st chord) of a MIDI clip to play when "sync tempo to host" is checked..? Excuse the noise if it has nothing to do with the matter at hand. > > > Apart from that it's rather impressive! It is (is everything exported, including post-instrument audio process? Wow) makes one wonder why a full master export is not possible ; not that there is anything wrong with mixing the song down to audacity. Ah yes, there is: Potential xruns, more programs to load at the same time... But mostly friends, asking where the option is ;) BTW, this new "duplicate track" is a really cool thing. I forgot that I even needed it ;) -- Philippe "xaccrocheur" Yassin http://manyrecords.com http://bitbucket.org/xaccrocheur / https://github.com/xaccrocheur |
From: Albert G. <ag...@gm...> - 2015-12-12 22:57:45
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Hi Will, On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Will Godfrey <wil...@mu...> wrote: > Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. Works very well indeed! As the Arch package on the AUR is out of date right now, I've uploaded a new PKGBUILD which builds from the latest git sources here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yoshimi-git/ Albert -- Dr. Albert Gr"af Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany Email: ag...@gm... WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef |
From: Philip Y. <ph...@gn...> - 2015-12-13 15:42:29
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On 12/12/2015 22:57, Albert Graef wrote: > Hi Will, > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Will Godfrey > <wil...@mu... <mailto:wil...@mu...>> wrote: > > Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. > Is this me, or is this breaking news? I've been waiting for an LV2 plugin version of Yoshimi for years! I'd like to write a news item for LMP about it, as soon as I can get my hands on it. I had no luck building it, make failed with: (...) [ 44%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/yoshimi.dir/main.cpp.o Linking CXX executable yoshimi /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [yoshimi] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/yoshimi.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 And going back into ccmake (that I don't recall having ever used before) it seems that all FLTK-something had the -NOTFOUND flag :( I think I have every fltk possible package installed... I guess I'm going to have to wait ; Is there a debian binary package of this plugin available yet? Phil > Works very well indeed! As the Arch package on the AUR is out of date > right now, I've uploaded a new PKGBUILD which builds from the latest > git sources here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yoshimi-git/ > > Albert > > -- > Dr. Albert Gr"af > Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany > Email: ag...@gm... <mailto:ag...@gm...> > WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Qtractor-devel mailing list > Qtr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtractor-devel -- Philippe "xaccrocheur" Yassin http://manyrecords.com http://bitbucket.org/xaccrocheur / https://github.com/xaccrocheur |
From: Philip Y. <ph...@gn...> - 2015-12-13 15:35:31
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On 12/12/2015 22:57, Albert Graef wrote: > Hi Will, > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 9:53 PM, Will Godfrey > <wil...@mu... <mailto:wil...@mu...>> wrote: > > Just tried the latest Qtractor with Yoshimi as an LV2 plugin. > Is this me, or is this breaking news? I've been waiting for an LV2 plugin version of Yoshimi for years! I'd like to write a news item for LMP about it, as soon as I can get my hands on it. I had no luck building it, make failed with: (...) [ 44%] Building CXX object CMakeFiles/yoshimi.dir/main.cpp.o Linking CXX executable yoshimi /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ljpeg collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [yoshimi] Error 1 make[1]: *** [CMakeFiles/yoshimi.dir/all] Error 2 make: *** [all] Error 2 And going back into ccmake (that I don't recall having ever used before) it seems that all FLTK-something had the -NOTFOUND flag :( I think I have every fltk possible package installed... I guess I'm going to have to wait ; Is there a debian binary package of this plugin available yet? Phil > Works very well indeed! As the Arch package on the AUR is out of date > right now, I've uploaded a new PKGBUILD which builds from the latest > git sources here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yoshimi-git/ > > Albert > > -- > Dr. Albert Gr"af > Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany > Email: ag...@gm... <mailto:ag...@gm...> > WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > _______________________________________________ > Qtractor-devel mailing list > Qtr...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/qtractor-devel -- Philippe "xaccrocheur" Yassin http://manyrecords.com http://bitbucket.org/xaccrocheur / https://github.com/xaccrocheur |
From: Will G. <wil...@mu...> - 2015-12-13 17:24:59
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Answered off-list. -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. |
From: Albert G. <ag...@gm...> - 2015-12-13 23:39:51
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On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Philip Yassin <ph...@gn...> wrote: > I guess I'm going to have to wait ; Is there a debian binary package of > this plugin available yet? According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yoshimi, it looks like 1.3.7.1-1 is in Xenial (upcoming Ubuntu16.04 LTS), That's why I'm on Arch now -- always enjoy all the latest stuff without waiting. :) -- Dr. Albert Gr"af Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany Email: ag...@gm... WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef |
From: Will G. <wil...@mu...> - 2015-12-14 10:25:40
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:39:39 +0100 Albert Graef <ag...@gm...> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Philip Yassin <ph...@gn...> wrote: > > > I guess I'm going to have to wait ; Is there a debian binary package of > > this plugin available yet? > > > According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yoshimi, it looks like > 1.3.7.1-1 is in Xenial (upcoming Ubuntu16.04 LTS), Do you know when their code freeze is for this release? I don't like to push out Yoshimi versions too quickly (it's not fair on the distro packagers) but there have been a lot of improvements recently. I was planning to push out 1.3.8 sometime in January, but could bring it forward if it means sneaking it in :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. |
From: Albert G. <ag...@gm...> - 2015-12-14 11:55:33
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On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:25 AM, Will Godfrey <wil...@mu...> wrote: > Do you know when their code freeze is for this release? No, sorry, I'm not much into Ubuntu any more. Maybe someone else here knows? -- Dr. Albert Gr"af Computer Music Research Group, JGU Mainz, Germany Email: ag...@gm... WWW: https://plus.google.com/+AlbertGraef |
From: Philip Y. <ph...@gn...> - 2015-12-14 18:06:05
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On 14/12/2015 10:25, Will Godfrey wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:39:39 +0100 > Albert Graef <ag...@gm...> wrote: > >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Philip Yassin <ph...@gn...> wrote: >> >>> I guess I'm going to have to wait ; Is there a debian binary package of >>> this plugin available yet? >> >> According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yoshimi, it looks like >> 1.3.7.1-1 is in Xenial (upcoming Ubuntu16.04 LTS), Aah, I see. I was under the impression that an up-to-date Yoshimi was in the KXStudio repos. I guess I'll wait :| > Do you know when their code freeze is for this release? I don't like to push > out Yoshimi versions too quickly (it's not fair on the distro packagers) but > there have been a lot of improvements recently. I was planning to push out > 1.3.8 sometime in January, but could bring it forward if it means sneaking it > in :) I found this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus : * *Alpha 1* – December 31st (for flavours) * *Alpha 2 *– January 28th (for flavours) * /Feature Freeze /— February 18th * *Beta 1* – February 25th (for flavours) * /UI Freeze/ — March 10th * *Final Beta *– March 24th * /Kernel Freeze/ — April 7th * *Release Candidate *– April 14th -- Philippe "xaccrocheur" Yassin http://manyrecords.com http://bitbucket.org/xaccrocheur / https://github.com/xaccrocheur |
From: Will G. <wil...@mu...> - 2015-12-14 18:20:05
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 18:05:55 +0000 Philip Yassin <ph...@gn...> wrote: > On 14/12/2015 10:25, Will Godfrey wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 00:39:39 +0100 > > Albert Graef <ag...@gm...> wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Philip Yassin <ph...@gn...> wrote: > >> > >>> I guess I'm going to have to wait ; Is there a debian binary package of > >>> this plugin available yet? > >> > >> According to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yoshimi, it looks like > >> 1.3.7.1-1 is in Xenial (upcoming Ubuntu16.04 LTS), > Aah, I see. I was under the impression that an up-to-date Yoshimi was in > the KXStudio repos. I guess I'll wait :| Unfortunately KXstudio is over 2 years out of date. There have been *major* developments since then :( > > Do you know when their code freeze is for this release? I don't like to push > > out Yoshimi versions too quickly (it's not fair on the distro packagers) but > > there have been a lot of improvements recently. I was planning to push out > > 1.3.8 sometime in January, but could bring it forward if it means sneaking it > > in :) > I found this > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/ubuntu-16-04-release-schedule-release-schedule-date-xenial-xerus > : > > * *Alpha 1* – December 31st (for flavours) > * *Alpha 2 *– January 28th (for flavours) > * /Feature Freeze /— February 18th > * *Beta 1* – February 25th (for flavours) > * /UI Freeze/ — March 10th > * *Final Beta *– March 24th > * /Kernel Freeze/ — April 7th > * *Release Candidate *– April 14th Ah, thanks. This is good news. I can aim to get between the alphas :) -- Will J Godfrey http://www.musically.me.uk Say you have a poem and I have a tune. Exchange them and we can both have a poem, a tune, and a song. |