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Re: 504 Errors

[Larry N. <py...@bl...>]

I'm seeing the same thing. Maybe the server is down?

Nedry


On 9/2/17 1:22 AM, Stephan Fourie wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am currently seeing 504 errors when attempting to connect to the 
> Pyzor service. When running 'pyzor ping' I see the following:
>
> public.pyzor.org:24441  (504, 'Reading response timed-out.')
>
> Anybody else experiencing the same issue?
>
> Thanks!
> Stephan
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504 Errors

[Stephan F. <st...@fo...>]

Hi everyone,

I am currently seeing 504 errors when attempting to connect to the Pyzor 
service. When running 'pyzor ping' I see the following:

public.pyzor.org:24441  (504, 'Reading response timed-out.')

Anybody else experiencing the same issue?

Thanks!
Stephan

Re: Public pyzor server range of IPs

[Andre N. <an...@di...>]

Thanks Tony!

Best,
Andre 

> Em 5 de jul de 2016, às 18:12, Tony Meyer <to...@sp...> escreveu:
> 
> Hello,
> 
>> Are there other IPs that can be used by the public pyzor server other 
>> than the one currently in use for public.pyzor.org?
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if there's any other address I should allow in my 
>> output traffic policy.
> 
> At this time, it’s just the current one.
> 
> If any new ones get added, we’ll be sure to announce that on the website and here at least a couple of weeks before.
> 
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Re: Public pyzor server range of IPs

[Tony M. <to...@sp...>]

Hello,

> Are there other IPs that can be used by the public pyzor server other 
> than the one currently in use for public.pyzor.org?
> 
> I'm just wondering if there's any other address I should allow in my 
> output traffic policy.

At this time, it’s just the current one.

If any new ones get added, we’ll be sure to announce that on the website and here at least a couple of weeks before.

Regards,
Tony

Public pyzor server range of IPs

[Andre N. <an...@di...>]

Hello

Are there other IPs that can be used by the public pyzor server other 
than the one currently in use for public.pyzor.org?

I'm just wondering if there's any other address I should allow in my 
output traffic policy.

Thanks in advance,
Andre

Re: How To unlist

[Tony M. <to...@sp...>]

Hello,

> Maybe someone has a solution for this?

The solution is really to use a modern version of pyzor, if you’re going to be using public.pyzor.org (if you want to use your own server, then you can of course use whatever out-of-date and broken pyzor you like ;)).

0.5 is very out of date (0.6.1 was released April 2014, there have been five releases since then).

You can pip install pyzor 1.0 anywhere you need to.  It looks like no-one is maintaining the Debian package (since from what I can see even the latest Debian is using 0.5).  If you care about that being updated rather than just installing from PyPI, then you’d need to find the previous maintainer or get a new one (I’m not familiar with how that process works).

Regards,
Tony

Re: How To unlist

[Tony M. <to...@sp...>]

Hello,

> 1. How can I determine which message needs to be whitelisted on the 
> pyzor server with its digest?

It’s the one that is getting rejected.  If you are getting multiple different messages that have the same digest (`pyzor digest` will show you the digest, and `pyzor info` will show you the results) then there’s an improvement needed to the digesting algorithm to avoid that.  It would be really useful if it was possible to include some examples in an issue on https://github.com/SpamExperts/pyzor/issues

> 2. If I´ll do the workaround and whitelist the admin-mail-address 
> locally, will the "listed on pyzor" spamassassin message be cleared (if 
> the related mail was sent from this account)?

Someone else here may know the answer to this, but it’s really a SA question rather than a Pyzor one.

Regards,
Tony

Re: How To unlist

[Thomas B. <be...@sp...>]

Thanks a lot for your fast answer.

I have 2 follow-up questions.

1. How can I determine which message needs to be whitelisted on the 
pyzor server with its digest?
2. If I´ll do the workaround and whitelist the admin-mail-address 
locally, will the "listed on pyzor" spamassassin message be cleared (if 
the related mail was sent from this account)?


Thanks for your help.
Ben



Am 2015-12-28 13:19, schrieb Matus UHLAR - fantomas:
> On 28.12.15 11:28, Thomas Bennek wrote:
>> I´m very new to pyzor, but I know, that pyzor won´t blacklist IPs,
>> Addresses, Domains or Servers - it is only about the content.
>> 
>> But it seems that I´m listed on pyzor and, I´ve read about 
>> whitelisting
>> a digest, but I´m not sure which message has been reported and why. 
>> I´m
>> very sure that no Spam-Mail has been sent from my server, so I assume 
>> it
>> is a "logcheck" message as I´ve read in the mailing list before. But 
>> I´m
>> not sure what I need to do to get "unlisted".
> 
> you need account on pyzor server to be able to whitelist checksum of a 
> mail.
> 
>> Do I need to locally
>> whitelist the admin-mail address of my server which sends the logcheck
>> mails?
> 
> this is the recommended workaround.

Re: How To unlist

[Matus U. - f. <uh...@fa...>]

On 28.12.15 11:28, Thomas Bennek wrote:
>I´m very new to pyzor, but I know, that pyzor won´t blacklist IPs,
>Addresses, Domains or Servers - it is only about the content.
>
>But it seems that I´m listed on pyzor and, I´ve read about whitelisting
>a digest, but I´m not sure which message has been reported and why. I´m
>very sure that no Spam-Mail has been sent from my server, so I assume it
>is a "logcheck" message as I´ve read in the mailing list before. But I´m
>not sure what I need to do to get "unlisted".

you need account on pyzor server to be able to whitelist checksum of a mail.

> Do I need to locally
>whitelist the admin-mail address of my server which sends the logcheck
>mails?

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How To unlist

[Thomas B. <be...@sp...>]

Hello to everyone,

I´m very new to pyzor, but I know, that pyzor won´t blacklist IPs, 
Addresses, Domains or Servers - it is only about the content.

But it seems that I´m listed on pyzor and, I´ve read about whitelisting 
a digest, but I´m not sure which message has been reported and why. I´m 
very sure that no Spam-Mail has been sent from my server, so I assume it 
is a "logcheck" message as I´ve read in the mailing list before. But I´m 
not sure what I need to do to get "unlisted". Do I need to locally 
whitelist the admin-mail address of my server which sends the logcheck 
mails?

Any help would be appreciated, and sorry for my noobish question ;-)

Thanks,
Ben

Brief downtime 19th November 2015 06:00 UTC

[Tony M. <to...@sp...>]

Hello,

A disk on the main public.pyzor.org server needs to be replaced (a different one than last time), so there will again be a short downtime of the public server, sorry.

The replacement is scheduled for the 19th of November 2015, 06:00 UTC, and should take no more than 30 minutes (likely about half of that).

We apologise for any inconvenience!

Regards,
Tony

Public server maintenance Oct 21

[Dreas v. D. <dr...@sp...>]

Hi,

We're replacing a faulty SSD disk tomorrow Oct 21 at 7am CEST, so the
public server may be shortly unreachable.

Kind regards,

Dreas

Pyzor termination error signal 15 (000f)

[Julian Pilfold-B. <jp...@bo...>]

Hi All,

I have Pyzor 1.0.0-5 running with spamassassin 3.4.0 and amavisd 2.10 on
Centos 7, but it keeps hanging and dropping messages into the maillog as
below:



[root@mail spamassassin]# tail -f /var/log/maillog | grep TERMINATED
Oct 13 11:42:19 mail amavis[15850]: (15850-19) SA info: pyzor: [18062]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:42:56 mail amavis[17804]: (17804-04) SA info: pyzor: [18348]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:42:59 mail amavis[18079]: (18079-01) SA info: pyzor: [18363]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:43:20 mail amavis[17804]: (17804-05) SA info: pyzor: [18471]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:43:32 mail amavis[18079]: (18079-02) SA info: pyzor: [18497]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:43:34 mail amavis[17804]: (17804-06) SA info: pyzor: [18560]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:43:46 mail amavis[18079]: (18079-03) SA info: pyzor: [18664]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:44:06 mail amavis[17804]: (17804-07) SA info: pyzor: [18731]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:44:20 mail amavis[18079]: (18079-04) SA info: pyzor: [18811]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)
Oct 13 11:44:42 mail amavis[17804]: (17804-08) SA info: pyzor: [18854]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)


This happens with every message that is scanned and as a result, I have
about 8000 messages from OSSEC sitting in my mailbox reporting:

OSSEC HIDS Notification.
2015 Oct 13 12:01:18

Received From: mail->/var/log/maillog
Rule: 1002 fired (level 2) -> "Unknown problem somewhere in the system."
Portion of the log(s):

Oct 13 12:01:16 mail amavis[20676]: (20676-16) SA info: pyzor: [24210]
error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)

 --END OF NOTIFICATION



The odd this is that the log entry in the mail delivery includes a pyzor
score:


check_spf: 0.37 (0.0%), check_razor2: 687 (13.8%), check_pyzor: 4003
(80.6%), tests_pri_500: 4.1 (0.1%)



and running a check on pyzor looks successful:


[root@mail pyzor-0.7.0]# echo “test” | spamassassin -D pyzor 2>&1 | less

Oct 13 12:40:53.331 [4129] dbg: pyzor: network tests on, attempting Pyzor
Oct 13 12:40:54.762 [4129] dbg: pyzor: pyzor is available: /usr/bin/pyzor
Oct 13 12:40:54.763 [4129] dbg: pyzor: opening pipe: /usr/bin/pyzor
--homedir /etc/mail/spamassassin/.pyzor check <
/tmp/.spamassassin41294pGoxztmp
Oct 13 12:40:59.895 [4129] dbg: pyzor: [4137] finished: exit 1
Oct 13 12:40:59.895 [4129] dbg: pyzor: got response:
public.pyzor.org:24441 (200, 'OK') 416441 49282
Oct 13 12:40:59.896 [4129] dbg: pyzor: listed: COUNT=416441/5
WHITELIST=49282
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on
        mail.bordengrammar.kent.sch.uk
X-Spam-Flag: YES
X-Spam-Level: ***********
X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=11.9 required=5.0
tests=EMPTY_MESSAGE,FSL_BULK_SIG,

MISSING_DATE,MISSING_FROM,MISSING_HEADERS,MISSING_MID,MISSING_SUBJECT,
        NO_HEADERS_MESSAGE,NO_RECEIVED,NO_RELAYS,PYZOR_CHECK autolearn=no
        autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0
X-Spam-Report:
        * -0.0 NO_RELAYS Informational: message was not relayed via SMTP
        *  1.0 MISSING_HEADERS Missing To: header
        *  2.5 PYZOR_CHECK Listed in Pyzor (http://pyzor.sf.net/)
        *  0.5 MISSING_MID Missing Message-Id: header
        *  1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header
        *  2.3 EMPTY_MESSAGE Message appears to have no textual parts and no
        *      Subject: text
        *  1.0 MISSING_FROM Missing From: header
        *  1.4 FSL_BULK_SIG Bulk signature with no Unsubscribe
        * -0.0 NO_RECEIVED Informational: message has no Received headers
        *  1.4 MISSING_DATE Missing Date: header
        *  0.0 NO_HEADERS_MESSAGE Message appears to be missing most RFC-822
        *      headers
“test”
Subject: [SPAM]
X-Spam-Prev-Subject: (nonexistent)



So my question is, bar whitelisting the error from OSSec, has anyone got
any idea what could be causing it and how to fix?

Thanks,

Julian

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RE: Delisting help

[Jordan G. <jo...@t1...>]

Thanks for your quick reply Marius; I figured it out shortly after I sent the message :)

 

Best,

Jordan

 

From: mar...@gm... [mailto:mar...@gm...] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 3:13 PM
To: Jordan Goldman; pyz...@li...
Subject: RE: Delisting help

 

Hi Jordan,

 

Pyzor works on message content. It doesn’t include (blacklist/whitelist) any server, ip, sender, domain etc.

echo "3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840" | pyzor check -s digests

public.pyzor.org:24441  (200, 'OK')     1       0

 

Test a different (normal) message and you should get zeros:

 

Step 1

pyzor digest < normal-message.eml

000… …000

 

Step 2

echo "000…  …000" | pyzor check -s digests

public.pyzor.org:24441  (200, 'OK')     0       0

 

 

Regards,

Marius

 

 

 


From: Jordan Goldman
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:02 AM
To: pyz...@li... <mailto:pyz...@li...> 
Subject: Delisting help

 

 

Hi all,

 

First, I apologize for having to send this to the mailing list, but I couldn’t find an alternate method of support. The forum link on the project page (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php) is broken.

 

My email server appears to be listed in Pyzor and submitting a whitelist request results in “Digest does not match message” every time, even though I’m submitting the digest for the exact raw email that I’m attaching.

 

How can I go about getting delisted? My email server is t16.net.

 

# cat email.txt | pyzor digest

3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

# pyzor digest < email.txt 

3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

 

email.txt is exactly what I’m uploading in the whitelist form.

 

I appreciate any help you all can offer.

Thanks!

 

 

RE: Delisting help

[<mar...@gm...>]

Hi Jordan,

Pyzor works on message content. It doesn’t include (blacklist/whitelist) any server, ip, sender, domain etc.
echo "3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840" | pyzor check -s digests
public.pyzor.org:24441  (200, 'OK')     1       0

Test a different (normal) message and you should get zeros:

Step 1
pyzor digest < normal-message.eml
000… …000

Step 2
echo "000…  …000" | pyzor check -s digests
public.pyzor.org:24441  (200, 'OK')     0       0


Regards,
Marius




From: Jordan Goldman
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2015 1:02 AM
To: pyz...@li...
Subject: Delisting help


Hi all,

First, I apologize for having to send this to the mailing list, but I couldn’t find an alternate method of support. The forum link on the project page (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php) is broken.

My email server appears to be listed in Pyzor and submitting a whitelist request results in “Digest does not match message” every time, even though I’m submitting the digest for the exact raw email that I’m attaching.

How can I go about getting delisted? My email server is t16.net.

# cat email.txt | pyzor digest
3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840
# pyzor digest < email.txt 
3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

email.txt is exactly what I’m uploading in the whitelist form.

I appreciate any help you all can offer.
Thanks!

RE: Delisting help

[Jordan G. <jo...@t1...>]

Please disregard - I was misunderstanding how Pyzor works. The content of my
test email was simply "test email", which I suppose was tripping the spam
detector. Sending a real email solves it.

 

Thanks

 

From: Jordan Goldman [mailto:jo...@t1...] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:43 PM
To: 'pyz...@li...'
Subject: Delisting help

 

Hi all,

 

First, I apologize for having to send this to the mailing list, but I
couldn't find an alternate method of support. The forum link on the project
page (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php) is broken.

 

My email server appears to be listed in Pyzor and submitting a whitelist
request results in "Digest does not match message" every time, even though
I'm submitting the digest for the exact raw email that I'm attaching.

 

How can I go about getting delisted? My email server is t16.net.

 

# cat email.txt | pyzor digest

3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

# pyzor digest < email.txt 

3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

 

email.txt is exactly what I'm uploading in the whitelist form.

 

I appreciate any help you all can offer.

Thanks!

Delisting help

[Jordan G. <jo...@t1...>]

Hi all,

 

First, I apologize for having to send this to the mailing list, but I
couldn't find an alternate method of support. The forum link on the project
page (http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php) is broken.

 

My email server appears to be listed in Pyzor and submitting a whitelist
request results in "Digest does not match message" every time, even though
I'm submitting the digest for the exact raw email that I'm attaching.

 

How can I go about getting delisted? My email server is t16.net.

 

# cat email.txt | pyzor digest

3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

# pyzor digest < email.txt 

3656cfdbe2819b0565e8765877913ad77a347840

 

email.txt is exactly what I'm uploading in the whitelist form.

 

I appreciate any help you all can offer.

Thanks!

RE: Custom Pyzor rules with different servers

[Marius G. <mar...@gm...>]

Makes sense.

Thank you.

Marius

-----Original Message-----
From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [mailto:uh...@fa...] 
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 1:15 PM
To: pyz...@li...
Subject: Re: Custom Pyzor rules with different servers

On 25.06.15 12:35, Marius Gologan wrote:
>I would like to know if is possible to create custom Pzyor rules with 
>different servers.

thay are spamassassin rules and should be discussed in spamassassin mailing
list.

>full                          PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC
>eval:check_pyzor(public.pyzor.org:24441)

you don't have to redefine standard SA rule.

>full                          PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL
>eval:check_pyzor(localhost:24441)

you can add this one

># If multiple servers return fingerprint, mark message as spam.
>
>meta                     PYZOR_CHECK_MATCH
>PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC && PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL

... and this one as well.


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Re: Custom Pyzor rules with different servers

[Matus U. - f. <uh...@fa...>]

On 25.06.15 12:35, Marius Gologan wrote:
>I would like to know if is possible to create custom Pzyor rules with
>different servers.

thay are spamassassin rules and should be discussed in spamassassin mailing
list.

>full                          PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC
>eval:check_pyzor(public.pyzor.org:24441)

you don't have to redefine standard SA rule.

>full                          PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL
>eval:check_pyzor(localhost:24441)

you can add this one

># If multiple servers return fingerprint, mark message as spam.
>
>meta                     PYZOR_CHECK_MATCH
>PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC && PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL

... and this one as well.


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Custom Pyzor rules with different servers

[Marius G. <mar...@gm...>]

Hi,

 

I would like to know if is possible to create custom Pzyor rules with
different servers.

The scope is to have different scores and even different meta rules,
depending on the server used.

 

Here is an example of what I have in mind:

 

# Disabled default rule

score                     PYZOR_CHECK                   0

 

# Recreate and enable default rule

full                          PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC
eval:check_pyzor(public.pyzor.org:24441)

describe               PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC                 Listed in Public
Pyzor

tflags                     PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC                 net

score                     PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC                 1.4

reuse                    PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC

 

# Create an additional rule

full                          PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL
eval:check_pyzor(localhost:24441)

describe               PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL                   Listed in Local
Pyzor

tflags                     PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL                   net

score                     PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL                   1.4

reuse                    PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL

 

# If multiple servers return fingerprint, mark message as spam.

meta                     PYZOR_CHECK_MATCH
PYZOR_CHECK_PUBLIC && PYZOR_CHECK_LOCAL

describe               PYZOR_CHECK_MATCH                 Listed in multiple
Pyzor

score                     PYZOR_CHECK_MATCH                 5.0

 

 

 

Thank you.

 

Marius Gologan.

Suggestions for local server?

[Tony T. <Ton...@go...>]

We have been using Pyzor with SpamAssassin and Postfix, and I notice that a lot of the spam that gets through 'untagged' is correctly detected if I manually re-scan them.  I'm assuming the difference is the time it takes for me to notice and test those spam.  I also notice that we get a lot of duplicate spam to current employees (mostly senior mgmt/owners) as well as long-gone employees.

So I would really like to setup an additional local Pyzor server and train it with email from the long-gone employees.  The goal is to immediately identify spam rather than waiting on the public servers to update.  But I have not been able to find any HOWTO's for such a setup.  Can someone please help me?

I think the general procedure would be:

1.       Install pyzor server

2.       Create rule in Postfix or SA to redirect known-bad messages (based on old-old-old addresses) to a separate instance of Pyzor client

3.       This second copy of Pyzor client would be configured to 'report' all messages it receives to the local Pyzor server

4.       Update the existing primary Pyzor client to perform lookups against the local Pyzor server, either in addition to or instead of the public.

Unfortunately, I really only know how to do the first step.
- Tony

Re: public.pyzor.org not responding since 2015-02-14 ~09:00 UTC

[Dreas v. D. <dr...@sp...>]

Hi,

This should have been resolved already. We've migrated the public
infrastructure to new (faster) hardware, and upgraded the underlying
software. Unfortunately an issue occurred as part of that process, it
has been resolved and the server should be working well now. Apologies
for the inconvenience caused.

Warm regards,

Dreas

On 15-02-15 11:10, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
> Just a quick note to let everyone know: The public.pyzor.org server is 
> essentially dead since yesterday morning.
>

public.pyzor.org not responding since 2015-02-14 ~09:00 UTC

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

Just a quick note to let everyone know: The public.pyzor.org server is 
essentially dead since yesterday morning.

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Re: public.pyzor TimeOut

[Dreas v. D. <dr...@sp...>]

Hi,

On 25-11-14 19:22, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
> All 4 public pyzor servers are timing out since several hours (not 
> always but almost always). 
That should be much better as of now.

Regards,

Dreas

Re: public.pyzor TimeOut

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

On Tue, 25 Nov 2014, at 16:04, Sistemas Operacionais Unix wrote:

> We've opened the outbound port 24441 TCP and UDP in the firewall. 

TCP shouldn't be needed.

> There's any other port that should be opened?

Not that I know of. However, today is not a good day for testing:

All 4 public pyzor servers are timing out since several hours
(not always but almost always).

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