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Re: Does not care about --homedir, untill it is to late

[Benny P. <me...@ju...>]

Simon Albinsson skrev den 2014-04-29 00:51:

> access /root/.pyzor

> It seems like the problem is at line 93 (as per traceback)
> if not os.path.exists(homedir):
>         os.mkdir(homedir)

> while the --homedir parameter is not processed until line 102.

homedir should be fixed to ~

> Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?

dont run spamassassin as root is you fault

--homedir does not change uid

only root can change to deprivileded user

Does not care about --homedir, untill it is to late

[Simon A. <py...@zx...>]

It seems like the --homedir parameter is not proccessed until after pyzor
has already attempted to create a directory in a catalog to which it has
no access.
I (let spamd) run it with pyzor --homedir=/etc/mail/spamassassin/pyzor
But it still attempts to access /root/.pyzor

It seems like the problem is at line 93 (as per traceback)
if not os.path.exists(homedir):
        os.mkdir(homedir)

while the --homedir parameter is not processed until line 102.

Am I doing something wrong or is this a bug?



Full traceback:
Traceback (most recent call last): [...]
 File "/usr/bin/pyzor", line 5, in <module>
 pkg_resources.run_script('pyzor==0.6.1', 'pyzor')
 File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/pkg_resources.py", line 528, in
run_script
 File "build/bdist.linux-x86_64/egg/pkg_resources.py", line 1401, in
run_script
 File
"/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/pyzor-0.6.1-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/pyzor",
line 340, in <module>

 File
"/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/pyzor-0.6.1-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/pyzor",
line 116, in main

 File
"/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/pyzor-0.6.1-py2.7.egg/EGG-INFO/scripts/pyzor",
line 93, in load_configuration

OSError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/root/.pyzor' at
/usr/local/share/perl5/Mail/SpamAssassin/Plugin/Pyzor.pm line 307.

Re: pyzor: [11820] error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)

[Dreas v. D. <dr...@sp...>]

Hi guys,

On 18-11-13 18:49, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
> If that's in fact your problem I can provide further details for how 
> to work around it. Of course, it would be great if the servers 
> performed better. Spamexperts!? *hint* *hint* ;-) 
As that continues to be a problem, we'll be moving things over likely in 
the next 2 weeks to try and permanently solve that. Thanks for the feedback.

Regards,

Dreas

Re: pyzor: [11820] error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)

[Chris <cpo...@em...>]

On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 18:49 +0100, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, at 08:50, Chris wrote:
> 
> > I'm seeing the above whenever SA is testing a message. However, if I 
> > run 'pyzor ping' I get public.pyzor.org:24441 (200, 'OK')
> 
> Are you sure that it happens _always_ when testing? "TERMINATED, 
> signal 15" is an error that occurs frequently with default settings 
> when public.pyzor.org times out. That's quite often. The 2 servers 
> behind public.pyzor.org both reach their limits around 08:15 UTC, 
> daily during the week. Only after 20:00 UTC they get back normal 
> operation. 
>   I don't have exact numbers at hand but it's approximately every 
> third access that times out during that time.
> 
> Moreover, on November 15, one of the 2 was completely unresponsive 
> for about 8 hours.
> 
> If that's in fact your problem I can provide further details for how 
> to work around it. Of course, it would be great if the servers 
> performed better. Spamexperts!? *hint* *hint* ;-)
> 
You're absolutely correct, it's not constant, I just hadn't noticed it
before I guess and when I installed the new modem I started checking the
logs more frequently to make sure everything was working correctly.

Thanks for the reply
Chris

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Re: pyzor: [11820] error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, at 08:50, Chris wrote:

> I'm seeing the above whenever SA is testing a message. However, if I 
> run 'pyzor ping' I get public.pyzor.org:24441 (200, 'OK')

Are you sure that it happens _always_ when testing? "TERMINATED, 
signal 15" is an error that occurs frequently with default settings 
when public.pyzor.org times out. That's quite often. The 2 servers 
behind public.pyzor.org both reach their limits around 08:15 UTC, 
daily during the week. Only after 20:00 UTC they get back normal 
operation. 
  I don't have exact numbers at hand but it's approximately every 
third access that times out during that time.

Moreover, on November 15, one of the 2 was completely unresponsive 
for about 8 hours.

If that's in fact your problem I can provide further details for how 
to work around it. Of course, it would be great if the servers 
performed better. Spamexperts!? *hint* *hint* ;-)

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   :-)

pyzor: [11820] error: TERMINATED, signal 15 (000f)

[Chris <cpo...@em...>]

I'm seeing the above whenever SA is testing a message. However, if I run
'pyzor ping' I get public.pyzor.org:24441	(200, 'OK')

I have just gotten a new DSL modem and it may be possible that I've
gotten the firewall in it not setup correctly though if I can ping the
public pyzor server it should be working. Any suggestions?

Chris

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Re: Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

[Matus U. - f. <uh...@fa...>]

>On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>
>> hmm, I have increased pyzor timeout to 20 seconds. Maybe I should
>> increase it to 60 seconds, if there's 30 seconds timeout for
>> wainting for one host, so the other wouldbe contactedas long?

On 08.06.13 22:51, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
>I am not sure I understand. What makes you think there's a 30s
>timeout? The Pyzor client has a built-in timeout of 5s:

I know, it's the one I have increased to 20s.
I have forgotten that pyzoruses UDP protocol. TCP has usually 30s timeout,
in which case TCP clients tend to switch over to alternative address. 
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Re: Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

[Benny P. <me...@ju...>]

Andreas Schamanek skrev den 08-06-2013 22:51:

> $ mv ~/.pyzor/servers ~/.pyzor/servers.bak
> $ echo 127.0.0.1:24441 >~/.pyzor/servers
> $ time pyzor ping
> 127.0.0.1:24441 TimeoutError:
>
> real    0m5.030s  (...)
> $ mv ~/.pyzor/servers.bak ~/.pyzor/servers

if we all have our own pyzord this was not a good example on downtime

Re: Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

On Sat, 8 Jun 2013, at 15:16, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

> hmm, I have increased pyzor timeout to 20 seconds. Maybe I should 
> increase it to 60 seconds, if there's 30 seconds timeout for 
> wainting for one host, so the other wouldbe contactedas long?

I am not sure I understand. What makes you think there's a 30s 
timeout? The Pyzor client has a built-in timeout of 5s:

$ mv ~/.pyzor/servers ~/.pyzor/servers.bak
$ echo 127.0.0.1:24441 >~/.pyzor/servers
$ time pyzor ping
127.0.0.1:24441 TimeoutError:

real    0m5.030s  (...)
$ mv ~/.pyzor/servers.bak ~/.pyzor/servers

HTH,
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   :-)

Re: Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

[Matus U. - f. <uh...@fa...>]

>> On 06.06.13 17:03, Mark Moore wrote:
>> >Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

On 06.06.13 23:33, Andreas Schamanek wrote:
>Let me guess: Exactly 50% timeouts!? ;-)

>On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, at 18:54, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
>> I can confirm this. is there any present issue with pyzor servers?

>Apparently! 1 of the 2 hosts serving public.pyzor.org is again not
>answering. 79.99.133.40 was not answering for about 2 weeks. Then it
>was up for 3 days, and since early 2013-06-03 it is down again :(

hmm, I have increased pyzor timeout to 20 seconds. Maybe I should increase
it to 60 seconds, if there's 30 seconds timeout for wainting for one host,
so the other wouldbe contactedas long?
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Re: Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

On Thu, 6 Jun 2013, at 18:54, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

> On 06.06.13 17:03, Mark Moore wrote:
> >Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

Let me guess: Exactly 50% timeouts!? ;-)

> I can confirm this. is there any present issue with pyzor servers?

Apparently! 1 of the 2 hosts serving public.pyzor.org is again not 
answering. 79.99.133.40 was not answering for about 2 weeks. Then it 
was up for 3 days, and since early 2013-06-03 it is down again :(

Oh, just while I was writing this message, 79.99.133.40 started 
answering requests again.

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Re: Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

[Matus U. - f. <uh...@fa...>]

On 06.06.13 17:03, Mark Moore wrote:
>Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

I can confirm this. is there any present issue with pyzor servers?

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Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

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Pyzor 24441 times out a lot when I try to ping it

 

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Re: public.pyzor.org is down

[Benny P. <me...@ju...>]

Andreas Schamanek skrev den 31-05-2013 00:12:

> You are right, however, both servers behind public.pyzor.org were
> indeed down until a few minutes ago (according to my logs):
> 109.72.80.227 was down since approximately 2013-05-30 00:00 (GMT),
> 79.99.133.40 was down since approximately 2013-05-15 14:30 (GMT).

that reminds me of when there was talks about pyzord digest exchange to 
extend server farms, to be benefitted into pyzor clients to not depend 
on 1 server working :)

i know pyzor clients can talk to multiple ip, but how does it add up in 
testing ?

lets say one server say this diggest is whitelisted, and another server 
says its known spam ?, would the end results then be neotral in pyzor ?

if so then whats stoping extending pyzord/pyzor problems more ?

Re: public.pyzor.org is down

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

On Thu, 30 May 2013, at 23:35, Benny Pedersen wrote:

> note telnet is using tcp, while pyzor using udp ?
> > #telnet public.pyzor.org 24441
> pyzor ping
> would be more helpfull to geeks :)
> 
> any one please make this a big faq, i have seen this pyzor is down, 
> i cant telnet it :/

You are right, however, both servers behind public.pyzor.org were 
indeed down until a few minutes ago (according to my logs): 
109.72.80.227 was down since approximately 2013-05-30 00:00 (GMT), 
79.99.133.40 was down since approximately 2013-05-15 14:30 (GMT).

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Re: public.pyzor.org is down

[Benny P. <me...@ju...>]

Andy Lei skrev den 30-05-2013 20:30:

> public.pyzor.org has been down for a long time, is there anyone 
> looking
> at it?

note telnet is using tcp, while pyzor using udp ?

>
> #telnet public.pyzor.org 24441

pyzor ping

would be more helpfull to geeks :)

any one please make this a big faq, i have seen this pyzor is down, i 
cant telnet it :/

public.pyzor.org is down

[Andy L. <And...@co...>]

Hi guys,

public.pyzor.org has been down for a long time, is there anyone looking 
at it?

#telnet public.pyzor.org 24441

Trying 79.99.133.40...
telnet: connect to address 79.99.133.40: Connection refused
Trying 109.72.80.227...
telnet: connect to address 109.72.80.227: Connection refused

Pyzor not responding since Friday 15:00 UTC

[Andreas S. <sch...@fa...>]

Fellow pyzors,

The 2 servers behind public.pyzor.org are not responding since 
approximately 2013-03-08 15:00 UTC. 

HTH,
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Re: Pyzor usage by University?

[Vincent F. <vb...@uc...>]

On 01/22/2013 09:16 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote:
>
> We are currently just doing check per the example given.
> means only pyzor CLIENT ?
>
>
Yes.

We have a range of other measure in place.

We run DCC here, we get feeds through Rhyolite.
We also run various blacklists, and we host local
copies of that data on servers running rbldnsd.

So we have some experience and infrastructure
that could be leveraged, but as yet I know fairly
little about running Pyzor other than we are now
running it in client mode on our mail routers.

I would think a local-only pyzord would be inferior
to using data that is shared from other sites, who might
see a given spam before we do.  But I suppose it's no
different than running Bayes which we do local-only.

Any thoughts about best direction are welcome.

Re: Pyzor usage by University?

[Benny P. <me...@ju...>]

Vincent Fox skrev den 14-01-2013 22:11:

> New to using Pyzor here.  We have it running in test on one of
> our mail routers, and wanted to know if the list had any guidance
> before we put it into production on all of them.

+1

> I looked back through the list archive and the recent thread I found
> with this sort of question seemed to think it was OK to use public.

okay, see comment below

> But it didn't mention volumes, and we can be higher volume maybe
> 6 million on a few days.  Most days are 2-4 million.

so local dns server and maybe local pyzord is ready ?

or is it just pyzor (CLIENT) testing ?

> We would PREFER to mirror it locally for speed and reliability if 
> possible.

one could rewrite the pyzor CLIENT to update local pyzord on all remote 
servers that exists in servers list, but this step was never commited :(

> Can we rsync to mirror the data?

nope its dns based with udp, but if you handle so many msgs, why not 
get a pyzord setup from local users to report to ?

> We are currently just doing check per the example given.

means only pyzor CLIENT ?

> Any other things we should be doing?

dont know yet :=)

Re: Pyzor usage by University?

[Dreas v. D. <dr...@sp...>]

Hi,

On 01/14/2013 11:11 PM, Vincent Fox wrote:
> I looked back through the list archive and the recent thread I found
> with this sort of question seemed to think it was OK to use public.
> But it didn't mention volumes, and we can be higher volume maybe
> 6 million on a few days.  Most days are 2-4 million.
It should be fine to simply query the public pyzor server.

> We would PREFER
> to mirror it locally for speed and reliability if possible.  Can we rsync
> to mirror the data?
This is currently not possible unfortunately.

Greets,

Dreas

Pyzor usage by University?

[Vincent F. <vb...@uc...>]

Hi,

New to using Pyzor here.  We have it running in test on one of
our mail routers, and wanted to know if the list had any guidance
before we put it into production on all of them.


I looked back through the list archive and the recent thread I found
with this sort of question seemed to think it was OK to use public.
But it didn't mention volumes, and we can be higher volume maybe
6 million on a few days.  Most days are 2-4 million.   We would PREFER
to mirror it locally for speed and reliability if possible.  Can we rsync
to mirror the data?

We are currently just doing check per the example given.
Any other things we should be doing?

Thanks!

Re: Server down?

[Dreas v. D. <dr...@sp...>]

Hi,

There are no known issues with the public server currently.

Regards,

Dreas

On 01/17/2012 02:35 PM, Antonio Gutierrez wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
>
> We are using Pyzor as Spam check on our spamassassin configuration,
>
> but, pyzor check is reporting that server is down. Seems that telnet 
> does not
>
> work :(
>
>
> Trying 79.99.133.40...
>
> telnet: connect to address 79.99.133.40: Connection refused
>
> Trying 109.72.80.227...
>
> telnet: connect to address 109.72.80.227: Connection refused
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
> Antonio.
>
>
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Re: Server down?

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Oh...  I am ashamed... I guess I have a mess with razor, pyzor, dcc...


sorry for this silly email :_( 

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>>> Benny Pedersen <me...@ju...> 1/17/2012 2:42 P.M. >>>
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:35:37 +0100, Antonio Gutierrez wrote:

>  but, pyzor check is reporting that server is down. Seems that
telnet
> does not

pyzor is NOT using tcp, thats why telnet fails

try pyzor ping :)



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Re: Server down?

[Benny P. <me...@ju...>]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:35:37 +0100, Antonio Gutierrez wrote:

>  but, pyzor check is reporting that server is down. Seems that telnet
> does not

pyzor is NOT using tcp, thats why telnet fails

try pyzor ping :)