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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] doc-based project, bin-python-main.m does not compile

[Bill D. <wdd...@ma...>]

Cool. That works.

Where did the 2.95 default setting come from? Isn't there a place to 
set this globally?

Thanks!

On Saturday, July 5, 2003, at 02:49 PM, Ronald Jaramillo wrote:

> For each target you have, under Settings/Expert View you should add  
> two entries to "Build Settings":
> CC = /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 and CPLUSPLUS=/usr/bin/g++-3.3

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] doc-based project, bin-python-main.m does not compile

[Ronald J. <ro...@ma...>]

For each target you have, under Settings/Expert View you should add   
two entries to "Build Settings":
CC = /usr/bin/gcc-3.3 and CPLUSPLUS=/usr/bin/g++-3.3
/mvh
Ronald

On Saturday, July 5, 2003, at 09:38 PM, Bill Dozier wrote:

> Ronald,
>
> this is confusing:
>
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% which gcc
> /usr/bin/gcc
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% gcc -v
> Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1435)
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy%
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% gcc_select
> Current default compiler:
> gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1435)
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy%
>
>
> However, PB only gives 2.95 and 3.1 as choices (3.1 is selected).
>
> In the build window, though:
>
> /Developer/Private/jam -d1 -j1  
> JAMBASE=/Developer/Makefiles/pbx_jamfiles/ProjectBuilderJambase  
> JAMFILE=- build ACTION=build _DEFAULT_GCC_VERSION=2.95.2  
> BUILD_STYLE=Development  
> CPP_HEADERMAP_FILE=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/ 
> pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.hmap  
> SRCROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest  
> OBJROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build  
> SYMROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build > DSTROOT=/tmp/pydoctest.dst
>
> ...
>
> BuildPhase <CopyResources>pydoctest.app
>
> CompileC  
> /Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/ 
> Objects-normal/ppc/bin-python-main.o
>     /usr/bin/gcc2  -c -F/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build   
> -I/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/include  -arch ppc -fno-common  
> -fpascal-strings -O0 -Wmost -Wno-four-char-constants  
> -Wno-unknown-pragmas -pipe -g -precomp-trustfile  
> /Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/ 
> TrustedPrecomps.txt  
> -Wp,-header-mapfile,/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/ 
> pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.hmap       bin-python-main.m  
>  -o  
> /Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/ 
> Objects-normal/ppc/bin-python-main.o
>
>
> I am neither a PB nor a jam expert.  Where is _DEFAULT_GCC_VERSION set?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
>
> On Saturday, July 5, 2003, at 02:26 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:
>
>>
>> On Saturday, 5 July, 2003, at 20:43, Bill Dozier wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> bin-python-main.m  does not compile. There are errors due to  
>>> variables not being declared early enough.
>>>
>>> Does this code compile for anyone else? I'd love to be able to  
>>> declare variables later, C++ style, if obj-c can allow it.
>>
>> What compiler are you using? The default compiler on OSX 10.2 should  
>> be gcc 3.1, and that allows "C++ style" declarations, GCC 2.95  
>> doesn't. You can check the default compiler using 'gcc_select'.
>>
>> Ronald
>>
>
>
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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] doc-based project, bin-python-main.m does not compile

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

On Saturday, 5 July, 2003, at 21:38, Bill Dozier wrote:

> Ronald,
>
> this is confusing:
>
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% which gcc
> /usr/bin/gcc
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% gcc -v
> Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs
> Thread model: posix
> gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1435)
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy%
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% gcc_select
> Current default compiler:
> gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1435)
> [gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy%

This looks good. Except for the version of gcc, GCC claims to be 3.1 on  
my system. You aren't using pre-elease software are you? ;-) ;-)

>
>
> However, PB only gives 2.95 and 3.1 as choices (3.1 is selected).
>
> In the build window, though:
>
> /Developer/Private/jam -d1 -j1  
> JAMBASE=/Developer/Makefiles/pbx_jamfiles/ProjectBuilderJambase  
> JAMFILE=- build ACTION=build _DEFAULT_GCC_VERSION=2.95.2  
> BUILD_STYLE=Development  
> CPP_HEADERMAP_FILE=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/ 
> pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.hmap  
> SRCROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest  
> OBJROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build  
> SYMROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build  
> DSTROOT=/tmp/pydoctest.dst

That is odd, this seems to indicate that PB actually uses gcc 2.95.

> I am neither a PB nor a jam expert.  Where is _DEFAULT_GCC_VERSION set?

Me neither, I hadn't even heard of jam before. I don't use PB very  
often, maybe one of the others can help out.

Ronald

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] doc-based project, bin-python-main.m does not compile

[Bill D. <wdd...@ma...>]

Ronald,

this is confusing:

[gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% which gcc
/usr/bin/gcc
[gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% gcc -v
Reading specs from /usr/libexec/gcc/darwin/ppc/3.3/specs
Thread model: posix
gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1435)
[gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy%
[gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy% gcc_select
Current default compiler:
gcc version 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1435)
[gigabook:~/build/pyobjc-1.0b1] daddy%


However, PB only gives 2.95 and 3.1 as choices (3.1 is selected).

In the build window, though:

/Developer/Private/jam -d1 -j1  
JAMBASE=/Developer/Makefiles/pbx_jamfiles/ProjectBuilderJambase  
JAMFILE=- build ACTION=build _DEFAULT_GCC_VERSION=2.95.2  
BUILD_STYLE=Development  
CPP_HEADERMAP_FILE=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/ 
pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.hmap  
SRCROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest  
OBJROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build  
SYMROOT=/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build DSTROOT=/tmp/pydoctest.dst

...

BuildPhase <CopyResources>pydoctest.app

CompileC  
/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/ 
Objects-normal/ppc/bin-python-main.o
     /usr/bin/gcc2  -c -F/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build   
-I/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/include  -arch ppc -fno-common  
-fpascal-strings -O0 -Wmost -Wno-four-char-constants  
-Wno-unknown-pragmas -pipe -g -precomp-trustfile  
/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/ 
TrustedPrecomps.txt  
-Wp,-header-mapfile,/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/ 
pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.hmap       bin-python-main.m   
-o  
/Users/daddy/Desktop/pydoctest/build/pydoctest.build/pydoctest.build/ 
Objects-normal/ppc/bin-python-main.o


I am neither a PB nor a jam expert.  Where is _DEFAULT_GCC_VERSION set?

Thanks,
Bill


On Saturday, July 5, 2003, at 02:26 PM, Ronald Oussoren wrote:

>
> On Saturday, 5 July, 2003, at 20:43, Bill Dozier wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> bin-python-main.m  does not compile. There are errors due to  
>> variables not being declared early enough.
>>
>> Does this code compile for anyone else? I'd love to be able to  
>> declare variables later, C++ style, if obj-c can allow it.
>
> What compiler are you using? The default compiler on OSX 10.2 should  
> be gcc 3.1, and that allows "C++ style" declarations, GCC 2.95  
> doesn't. You can check the default compiler using 'gcc_select'.
>
> Ronald
>

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] doc-based project, bin-python-main.m does not compile

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

On Saturday, 5 July, 2003, at 20:43, Bill Dozier wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> bin-python-main.m  does not compile. There are errors due to variables 
> not being declared early enough.
>
> Does this code compile for anyone else? I'd love to be able to declare 
> variables later, C++ style, if obj-c can allow it.

What compiler are you using? The default compiler on OSX 10.2 should be 
gcc 3.1, and that allows "C++ style" declarations, GCC 2.95 doesn't. 
You can check the default compiler using 'gcc_select'.

Ronald

[Pyobjc-dev] doc-based project, bin-python-main.m does not compile

[Bill D. <wdd...@ma...>]

Hi All,

bin-python-main.m  does not compile. There are errors due to variables 
not being declared early enough.

Does this code compile for anyone else? I'd love to be able to declare 
variables later, C++ style, if obj-c can allow it.

Thanks.

[Pyobjc-dev] A couple of questions...

[roderik <run...@si...>]

Hi list, my first posting. Just returned to the apple platform after 
several years in linux land. Found pyObjC, and it looks awesome. I've 
been programming with PyQT for the last couple of years so it's about 
time to learn something new.

Question nr. 1: Book recommendations. Besides from Apple's 
documentation..what kind of book would be suitable for one with some 
C++ knowledge and no ObjC knowledge?

Question nr. 2: PyObjC 1.0b installs three project templates. The 
"Cocoa-Python Application" template seems less than useful to me as 
it's basically a "Hello world" app..serves as a good example, but as a 
template?..or am I missing something here.

regards

/rune

Rune Hansen
run...@si...

"Java is great for engineering next generation
solutions to enable maximization of developer income by means of
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[Pyobjc-dev] Pre-ANN: PyObjC 1.0b1

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

I've uploaded the sources and a binary installer for PyObjC 1.0b1 to 
SF. The official announcement will go out on Sunday, unless someone 
finds a serious bug before then.

Have fun,
	Ronald

----------------------------- Announcement text 
----------------------------

PyObjC 1.0b1 is now available for download at 
http://pyobjc.sourceforge.net/

PyObjC is a bridge between Python and Objective-C.  It allows full
featured Cocoa applications to be written in pure Python.  It is also
easy to use other frameworks containing Objective-C class libraries
from Python and to mix in Objective-C, C and C++ source.

Python is a highly dynamic programming language with a shallow learning
curve.  It combines remarkable power with very clear syntax.

The installer package includes a number of Project Builder templates for
easily creating new Cocoa-Python projects, as well as support for
syntax-coloring Python files in Project Builder.

PyObjC also supports full introspection of Objective-C classes and
direct invocation of Objective-C APIs from the interactive interpreter.

PyObjC requires MacOS X 10.2 or later.  PyObjC works both with the Apple
provided Python installation in MacOS X 10.2 (and later) and with
MacPython 2.3b1.  Users of MacPython 2.3b1 can install PyObjC though the
PackageManager application.

PyObjC 1.0b1 includes numerous improvements over earlier versions, 
including:

* Improved performance and stability
* Better tutorials and examples
* Initial support for MacOS X 10.1
* Support for the WebKit framework
* Write plugin bundles in Python (requires Python 2.3b1)

PyObjC is released with an open source license.

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[Pyobjc-dev] reST editor experiments...

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

Hi,

I'm experimenting with a prototype reST editor on OS X, and made
a little QuickTime MPEG4 movie displaying the current state of it
(since few people here might have OS X available):

   http://python.net/~gherman/tmp/ReSTedit0.mov (5 min, 1486 KB)

It's only a start, I'm just using docutils.core.publish_string(text,
writer_name='html'), but it raises for me several questions about:

- changing the default CSS (or parts thereof)
- suppressing warning messages (e.g. about empty sections)
- raising visual significance of warning messages (e.g. color, etc.)

Thanks for any insight into these issues!

Dinu

CC'ed to the PyObjC list...

--
Dinu C. Gherman
......................................................................
"Even if you do learn to speak correct English, whom are you going
to speak it to?" (Clarence Darrow)

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Displaying HTML in NSTextView

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

On Friday, Jul 4, 2003, at 11:10 Europe/Amsterdam, Dinu Gherman wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren:
>
>> The signature is: (NSData, NSURL) -> (self, attributes), the
>> documentAttributes is an output argument.
>
> I found this out by experimenting myself... It raises maybe an inter-
> esting issue: what if an argument is used as input *and* output ar-
> gument? Is there a general policy being followed behind returning
> compound results, or is this a case-by-case decission?

There is a general rule:

- If a pointer is an input argument you should pass a value
- If a pointer is an output argument you shouldn't pass a value and the 
value is added to the return value (which get's turned into a tuple 
like this: (method_return, output1, output2, ...)
- If a pointer is both an input and an output: pass a value for input, 
the output is returned as with output-only arguments.

Ronald

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Displaying HTML in NSTextView

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

Ronald Oussoren:

> The signature is: (NSData, NSURL) -> (self, attributes), the
> documentAttributes is an output argument.

I found this out by experimenting myself... It raises maybe an inter-
esting issue: what if an argument is used as input *and* output ar-
gument? Is there a general policy being followed behind returning
compound results, or is this a case-by-case decission?

> You must import AppKit before using this method, the method
> is in a categorie.

Hmm, one more of these implicit things to know... I wish Apple would
use a some smarter way of isolating categories into seperate header
and documentation files...

BTW, it works nicely and helped me in producing a promissing pre-
alpha version of a would-be reST-editor-like prototype thingy:

   http://python.net/~gherman/tmp/ReSTedit0.mov (6694 KB)

Beware, this is pretty slow and I should better do the rendering
using an NSTimer or so instead of whenever the input text changes...
but it's a start...

Dinu

--
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......................................................................
"No one has ever had an idea in a dress suit."
(Sir Frederick G. Banting)

[Pyobjc-dev] Re: WebCore support

[Michael H. <mw...@py...>]

Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:

>> I'm sorry for being thick, but the only WebCore download I've found on
>> the ADC site is the source.  Is that what you mean by SDK, or can I
>> just get the headers somewhere (which is what "SDK" suggested to me)?
>> If the latter, a pointer to the relavent bit of the site would be
>> appreciated...
>
> Choose 'Log In' and then 'Download software', it's in the section with
> new downloads.

Oh, you have to *log in*!  Why do I always forget that you sometimes
have to do that?

* mwh slaps himself

Cheers,
M.

-- 
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  A: A good start.
  (A lawyer told me this joke.)
                                  -- Michael Ströder, comp.lang.python

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Re: WebCore support

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 19:01 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Hudson 
wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:
>
>> On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 16:30 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Hudson
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:
>>>
>>>> I've just checked in a patch that (amongst others) enables support 
>>>> for
>>>> the constants in the WebCore framework. To compile the current CVS
>>>> version you have to install the WebCore SDK.
>>>
>>> I'm having fun with this: my Safari 1.0 doesn't seem to have come 
>>> with
>>> WebKit.h.  Do I need to install WebCore from source?
>>
>> You have to install the WebKit SDK before building PyObjC. The SDK can
>> be downloaded from the ADC site.
>
> I'm sorry for being thick, but the only WebCore download I've found on
> the ADC site is the source.  Is that what you mean by SDK, or can I
> just get the headers somewhere (which is what "SDK" suggested to me)?
> If the latter, a pointer to the relavent bit of the site would be
> appreciated...

Choose 'Log In' and then 'Download software', it's in the section with 
new downloads.

Ronald

[Pyobjc-dev] Re: WebCore support

[Michael H. <mw...@py...>]

Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:

> On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 16:30 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Hudson
> wrote:
>
>> Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:
>>
>>> I've just checked in a patch that (amongst others) enables support for
>>> the constants in the WebCore framework. To compile the current CVS
>>> version you have to install the WebCore SDK.
>>
>> I'm having fun with this: my Safari 1.0 doesn't seem to have come with
>> WebKit.h.  Do I need to install WebCore from source?
>
> You have to install the WebKit SDK before building PyObjC. The SDK can
> be downloaded from the ADC site.

I'm sorry for being thick, but the only WebCore download I've found on
the ADC site is the source.  Is that what you mean by SDK, or can I
just get the headers somewhere (which is what "SDK" suggested to me)?
If the latter, a pointer to the relavent bit of the site would be
appreciated...

Cheers,
M.

-- 
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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Displaying HTML in NSTextView

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 17:40 Europe/Amsterdam, Dinu Gherman wrote:

> I wondered:
>
>> did anybody succeed already in displaying HTML code properly
>> inside NSTextViews? If so, I'd be grateful for a simple code
>> snippet... The ObjC stuff I've found so far does successfully
>> resist my Pythonification attempts...
>
> Strange... There seems to be a method for NSAttributedString with
> the following ObjC-signature:
>
> - (id)initWithHTML:(NSData *)data
>       baseURL:(NSURL *)aURL
>       documentAttributes:(NSDictionary **)docAttributes

$ python
Python 2.3b2+ (#1, Jun 30 2003, 17:14:46)
[GCC 3.1 20020420 (prerelease)] on darwin
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
 >>> import AppKit
 >>> import Foundation
 >>> 
Foundation.NSAttributedString.initWithHTML_baseURL_documentAttributes_
<unbound native-selector initWithHTML:baseURL:documentAttributes: in 
NSAttributedString>
 >>>

The signature is: (NSData, NSURL) -> (self, attributes), the 
documentAttributes is an output argument.

You must import AppKit before using this method, the method is in a 
categorie.

Ronald

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Re: WebCore support

[Ronald O. <ous...@ci...>]

On Thursday, Jul 3, 2003, at 16:30 Europe/Amsterdam, Michael Hudson 
wrote:

> Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:
>
>> I've just checked in a patch that (amongst others) enables support for
>> the constants in the WebCore framework. To compile the current CVS
>> version you have to install the WebCore SDK.
>
> I'm having fun with this: my Safari 1.0 doesn't seem to have come with
> WebKit.h.  Do I need to install WebCore from source?

You have to install the WebKit SDK before building PyObjC. The SDK can 
be downloaded from the ADC site.

Ronald

[Pyobjc-dev] PyObjCPoint created for NSModalSession

[Bob S. <rsw...@tr...>]

I have the following code to display an alert while my application is doing
something that the user must wait for:

    alertPanel = NSGetInformationalAlertPanel("Waiting", "Please wait.",
None, None, None)
    modalSession = application.beginModalSessionForWindow_(alertPanel)
    while 1:
        .... check and break when ready
    application.endModalSession_(modalSession)
    NSReleaseAlertPanel(alertPanel)

When run, this code causes these messages on the console:

    2003-07-03 11:51:16.213 Goombah[1250] PyObjCPointer created: at
0x24da590 of type {_NSModalSession=@@^{_NSModalSession}iciI^vi@@:^vi}
    2003-07-03 11:51:20.938 Goombah[1250] Exception raised during posting of
notification.  Ignored.  exception: depythoning 'struct', got
'PyObjCPointer'

Do I need to inform PyObjC that this is an NSModalSession struct in some
way?

Thanks for your help.

Bob Swerdlow
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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] Displaying HTML in NSTextView

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

I wondered:

> did anybody succeed already in displaying HTML code properly
> inside NSTextViews? If so, I'd be grateful for a simple code
> snippet... The ObjC stuff I've found so far does successfully
> resist my Pythonification attempts...

Strange... There seems to be a method for NSAttributedString with
the following ObjC-signature:

- (id)initWithHTML:(NSData *)data
       baseURL:(NSURL *)aURL
       documentAttributes:(NSDictionary **)docAttributes

It was really hard to find on this page:

    
http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Reference/ 
ApplicationKit/ObjC_classic/Classes/NSAttributedString.html

but it seems not to be described in my local Developer header files!
Neither is it described in my copy of CocoaBrowser.app (which just
imports the local developer documentation, I think).

Using it in ObjC works, but since much of the PyObjC-interface was
somehow created automatically from such header files I guess, it
is just not available in PyObjC now!

I'm not sure if this method is deprecated or what. It makes sense
and it works. Here is a very nice, very short sample project which
uses it (build your own webbrowser with almost no code):

   http://jrepp.com/cocoabb/viewtopic.php?t=32
   http://jrepp.com/src/WeBrowser.tgz

The question that remains is: can we add this to PyObjC somehow, so
I can eat my HTML/NSTextView cake, too? ;-) Note, that I'd like to
see a simple paragraph somewhere in the developer documentation that
would explain to me how I can add such stuff myself, unless it's
already there, of course...

Thanks,

Dinu

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[Pyobjc-dev] Re: WebCore support

[Michael H. <mw...@py...>]

Ronald Oussoren <ous...@ci...> writes:

> I've just checked in a patch that (amongst others) enables support for
> the constants in the WebCore framework. To compile the current CVS
> version you have to install the WebCore SDK.

I'm having fun with this: my Safari 1.0 doesn't seem to have come with
WebKit.h.  Do I need to install WebCore from source?

Cheers,
M.

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[Pyobjc-dev] Re: cvs snapshots?

[Michael H. <mw...@py...>]

Just van Rossum <ju...@le...> writes:

> Jack Jansen wrote:
>
>> I think the problem here is that gnutar and OSX-tar are not 100%
>> compatible. To make matters worse, once you use fink it will install
>> a GNU tar in 
>> /sw/bin
>> with the name "tar", and it obscures OSX tar. The result of this is
>> that you create tarfiles that cannot be read by people who have only
>> a basic OSX installation. I got bitten by this a while ago.

Although I still have bits of fink installed, I removed /sw/bin from
my path for exactly this sort of reason (in general I wish fink worked
more with the BSD tools as present in OS X rather than trying to slap
a GNU/Darwin system on top, but I guess this isn't the place for that
rant).

> Note that the snapshot tar files are created on a Linux shell box @ sf,
> but I have no idea what tar version that is.

It'll be GNU tar, no question.

Cheers,
M.

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[Pyobjc-dev] FYI: New Hillegass book

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

Hi, there's probably one more interesting Mac OS X book to buy:

   "Core Mac OS X and Unix Programming"
   by Mark Dalrymple and Aaron Hillegass

   http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/01/1636204
   http://borkware.com/corebook

Dinu

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Re: [Pyobjc-dev] PyObjC- vs. Python Unicode

[Just v. R. <ju...@le...>]

Ronald Oussoren wrote:

> >> SRE doesn't work because it tests types using '==' instead of
> >> 'isinstance'. IMHO this is a bug in SRE.
> >
> > I agree. Do you report it or shall I do it? I think it's important
> > to get this fixed before 2.3 final.
> 
> bug #764548

FWIW, the bug has been fixed in Python CVS.

Just

Re: [Pyobjc-dev] RegexPlor demo (Was: PyObjC- vs. Python Unicode)

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

Jack Jansen:

> Nice! Thanks for the screenshot, I can't run the code right now,
> it's good to see what it looks like.

Ok then, here's more to look at :-)

   http://python.net/~gherman/tmp/RegexPlor0.mov (778 KB)

Dinu

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[Pyobjc-dev] Displaying HTML in NSTextView

[Dinu G. <gh...@da...>]

Hi,

did anybody succeed already in displaying HTML code properly
inside NSTextViews? If so, I'd be grateful for a simple code
snippet... The ObjC stuff I've found so far does successfully
resist my Pythonification attempts...

Thanks,

Dinu

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