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From: Bittremieux W. <wou...@ua...> - 2018-04-10 17:30:29
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Hi Dave, Sorry for the delayed answer to your questions. As far as I'm aware (please someone correct me if I'm wrong): - OBO and OWL are two alternative file formats to specify controlled vocabularies and ontologies. We use the OBO format for our CV. This is indeed a simpler format than OWL and can be viewed relatively easily in a simple text editor. Alternatively, Martin has previously recommended OBO-Edit<http://oboedit.org/> to visualize the relationships between the various terms. - In our previous discussions we have indeed said that in principle every tool gets its own range of CV accessions. This would enable a new tool to easily start producing compliant qcML files without having to check dependencies on other tools. It might make sense to reuse some trivial definitions though for metrics that don't involve any computations, such the number of MS/MS scans. On the other hand, how will downstream tools handle conflicting metrics coming from different tools? Although in that case maybe the tool authors should be the main persons responsible to worry about this rather than us. In any case, it would be useful to explicitly document how tools can get CV accessions. - To report the unit for a single QC metric you can use the unitAccession/unitName/unitCvRef attributes for any XML element that is derived from the CVParamType, which qualityParameter elements are. The CVParamType is specified in our XML schema<https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/schema/v0_0_10/qcML_0_0_10.xsd>. - This XML schema can also be used for simple syntactic validation and some semantic validation. Because we have a mix between XML and JSON unfortunately some external semantic validation will have to be explicitly coded as well though. Any decent XML editor should have built-in functionality to validate XML files against a schema, and otherwise there are various command-line tools and linters you can use to do that as well. However, the previously linked v0.0.10 XML schema on GitHub does not seem to be fully up to date anymore at the moment, and I think the most recent XML schema is available in Mathias' ongoing pull request<https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/pull/37>. - As to metrics numbering I don't think we have a process for that yet. I guess now it's just first-come-first-served. Best, Wout On 09 Apr 2018, at 23:56, David Tabb <dt...@su...<mailto:dt...@su...>> wrote: Hi, all. I have not yet received an answer to the three questions below. I have, however, uploaded it to qcdev, where you can find it at this URL: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/20180403-1091_Pool_start_v0.8.qc.xml. Merci! Dave On 4/5/2018 11:29 AM, David Tabb wrote: Hi, all. At long last, I have completed my "homework" for Heidelberg! I have created a draft XML to represent the qcML output for computing QuaMeter IDFree metrics for a single input mzML file (see text inline below). I would greatly appreciate answers to the following questions to complete this project: 1) If I am reporting only a single value for a metric (such as "XIC-WideFrac"), how do I report the unit for the metric? 2) Do we have an easy way to validate a draft file like this, at least to determine that I have matching end tags for each one I open? I've been using Emacs, which tries to help, but a dedicated XML editor might be preferable. 3) Who officially designates what each metric will be numbered in the CV? Thanks, Dave -------------------------------------------------------- <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <qcML xmlns="http://www.prime-xs.eu/ms/qcml" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.prime-xs.eu/ms/qcml file:/home/walzer/psi/qcML-development/schema/v0_0_10/qcML_0_0_10.xsd" version="0.0.10"> <runQuality ID="ID001"> <metaDataParameters ID="fileprovenance001" cvRef="?" accession="?" name="?" description="do we need cv for toplevel" value="all cv attributes are optional anyway"> <InputFiles> <RawFile location="C:\Research\20171124-Lizex-Chia\1091_Pool_start.mzML" id="ID001" name="1091_Pool_start.mzML"> <FileFormat> <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000584" name="mzML format"/> </FileFormat> <!-- In the following line, I computed the md5sum for the peak-picked mzML, not the RAW! --> <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000568" name="MD5" value="b583f6d2a91b4749d5a75885330f6e5d" /> <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000747" name="completion time" value="2017-12-08-T15:38:57Z" /> </RawFile> </InputFiles> </metaDataParameters> <!-- Question to consider: how should I link a metric below to the concept of "liquid chromatography" or "electrospray ionization?" Is this appropriate--> <!-- Units I employ below: --> <!-- UO:0000191 "fraction" --> <!-- UO:0000010 "second" --> <!-- UO:0010006 "ratio" --> <!-- UO:0000189 "count" --> <!-- UO:0000106 "hertz" --> <!-- When a line gives a single metric, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000191 "fraction" --> <qualityParameter ID="XIC-WideFrac" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of precursor ions accounting for the top half of all peak width" value="0.206807"/> <qualityParameter ID="XIC-FWHM" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak widths for the wide XICs"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0000010':[12.5377,14.2244,16.9234]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- UO:0010006 is "ratio" rather than "log ratio"--> <qualityParameter ID="XIC-Height" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak log ratio heights for the wide XICs"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.776393,0.93114,6.6283]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000010 "second" --> <qualityParameter ID="RT-Duration" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Highest scan time observed minus the lowest scan time observed" value="4920.17"/> <qualityParameter ID="RT-TIC" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of TIC accumulation as fraction of RT-Duration"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.301236,0.13286,0.174576,0.391328]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="RT-MS" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of MS1 acquisition as fraction of RT-Duration"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.217794,0.272976,0.275845,0.233385]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="RT-MSMS" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of MS2 acquisition as fraction of RT-Duration"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.268157,0.233516,0.236373,0.261954]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-TIC-Change" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of log ratios of MS1 scan-to-scan TIC changes"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.870774,0.900585,4.66521]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-TIC" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Log ratios of MS1 scan TICs"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.568866,0.815636,1.18124]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000189 "count" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Count" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Number of MS1 scans acquired" value="7832"/> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000106 "hertz" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Freq-Max" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Maximum frequency for MS1 scan acquisition" value="2.41814"/> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Density" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak counts for MS1 scans"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0000189:[693,1205,1424]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000189 "count" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Count" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Number of MS2 scans acquired" value="33495"/> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000106 "hertz" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Freq-Max" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Maximum frequency for MS2 scan acquisition" value="7.33107"/> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Density" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak counts for MS2 scans"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0000189:[27,44,70]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- How do we specify that the values of a vector sum to 1? How about this case, where two vectors together sume to 1?--> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-PrecZ-Known" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of known precursor charges for +1, +2, ..., n, more than n"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0,0.15047,0.0687565,0.00877743,0.000507538,0.000268697]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- For the final metric, I used a reporting type where the number of elements in vector is fixed: QC:3000007--> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-PrecZ-Unknown" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of unknown precursor charges for +1, more than +1"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000007" value="2">{'UO:0000191':[0.54235,0.22887]}</content></qualityParameter> </runQuality> <cvList> <cv fullName="The HUPO-PSI QC WG metrics ontology in obo format" uri="http://www.github.com/HUPO-PSI/.../" ID="PSI-QC-CV"/> </cvList> </qcML> -------------------------------------------------------- On 4/5/2018 9:47 AM, David Tabb wrote: Hi, all. In creating my hand-crafted example of qcML from QuaMeter IDFree, I've installed Protege, an ontology viewer. It's useful for perusing the HUPO-PSI MS ontology (http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ms/4.1.2/ms.owl). I'm a bit confused, though, in how to review the qcML ontology. At present, I can find an OBO to download (https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/raw/master/cv/v0_0_10/qc-cv.obo), but I do not see an OWL equivalent. Helpfully, I can simply review the OBO in a text editor. In particular, I am trying to determine which QC accessions each of my IDFree metrics will represent. Does each metric generator get a particular series of numbers that relate to that software's outputs? Can I reuse a metric accession from other software if my tool generates the same values (such as the number of MS/MS scans)? Jinmeng Jia, will you be able to share your paragraph that meets the draft MIAPE QC standard with Weimin Zhu for him to present at Heidelberg? 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From: David T. <dt...@su...> - 2018-04-10 06:56:39
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Hi, all. I have not yet received an answer to the three questions below. I have, however, uploaded it to qcdev, where you can find it at this URL: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/20180403-1091_Pool_start_v0.8.qc.xml. Merci! Dave On 4/5/2018 11:29 AM, David Tabb wrote: > Hi, all. > > At long last, I have completed my "homework" for Heidelberg! I have > created a draft XML to represent the qcML output for computing QuaMeter > IDFree metrics for a single input mzML file (see text inline below). I > would greatly appreciate answers to the following questions to complete > this project: > > 1) If I am reporting only a single value for a metric (such as > "XIC-WideFrac"), how do I report the unit for the metric? > > 2) Do we have an easy way to validate a draft file like this, at least > to determine that I have matching end tags for each one I open? I've > been using Emacs, which tries to help, but a dedicated XML editor might > be preferable. > > 3) Who officially designates what each metric will be numbered in the CV? > > Thanks, > Dave > -------------------------------------------------------- > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> > <qcML xmlns="http://www.prime-xs.eu/ms/qcml" > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" > xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.prime-xs.eu/ms/qcml > file:/home/walzer/psi/qcML-development/schema/v0_0_10/qcML_0_0_10.xsd" > version="0.0.10"> > <runQuality ID="ID001"> > <metaDataParameters ID="fileprovenance001" cvRef="?" > accession="?" name="?" description="do we need cv for toplevel" > value="all cv attributes are optional anyway"> > <InputFiles> > <RawFile > location="C:\Research\20171124-Lizex-Chia\1091_Pool_start.mzML" > id="ID001" name="1091_Pool_start.mzML"> > <FileFormat> > <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000584" > name="mzML format"/> > </FileFormat> > <!-- In the following line, I computed the md5sum for the > peak-picked mzML, not the RAW! --> > <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000568" name="MD5" > value="b583f6d2a91b4749d5a75885330f6e5d" /> > <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000747" > name="completion time" value="2017-12-08-T15:38:57Z" /> > </RawFile> > </InputFiles> > </metaDataParameters> > <!-- Question to consider: how should I link a metric below to the > concept of "liquid chromatography" or "electrospray ionization?" Is > this appropriate--> > <!-- Units I employ below: --> > <!-- UO:0000191 "fraction" --> > <!-- UO:0000010 "second" --> > <!-- UO:0010006 "ratio" --> > <!-- UO:0000189 "count" --> > <!-- UO:0000106 "hertz" --> > <!-- When a line gives a single metric, where do I indicate the > unit type? UO:0000191 "fraction" --> > <qualityParameter ID="XIC-WideFrac" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of precursor ions > accounting for the top half of all peak width" value="0.206807"/> > <qualityParameter ID="XIC-FWHM" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" > name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak widths for the wide > XICs"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="3">{'UO:0000010':[12.5377,14.2244,16.9234]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <!-- UO:0010006 is "ratio" rather than "log ratio"--> > <qualityParameter ID="XIC-Height" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" > name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak log ratio heights for > the wide XICs"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.776393,0.93114,6.6283]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? > UO:0000010 "second" --> > <qualityParameter ID="RT-Duration" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Highest scan time observed > minus the lowest scan time observed" value="4920.17"/> > <qualityParameter ID="RT-TIC" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" > name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of TIC accumulation as > fraction of RT-Duration"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.301236,0.13286,0.174576,0.391328]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <qualityParameter ID="RT-MS" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" > name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of MS1 acquisition as > fraction of RT-Duration"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.217794,0.272976,0.275845,0.233385]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <qualityParameter ID="RT-MSMS" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" > name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of MS2 acquisition as > fraction of RT-Duration"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.268157,0.233516,0.236373,0.261954]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <qualityParameter ID="MS1-TIC-Change" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of log ratios > of MS1 scan-to-scan TIC changes"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.870774,0.900585,4.66521]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <qualityParameter ID="MS1-TIC" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" > name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Log ratios of MS1 scan TICs"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.568866,0.815636,1.18124]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? > UO:0000189 "count" --> > <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Count" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Number of MS1 scans > acquired" value="7832"/> > <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? > UO:0000106 "hertz" --> > <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Freq-Max" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Maximum frequency for MS1 > scan acquisition" value="2.41814"/> > <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Density" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak > counts for MS1 scans"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="3">{'UO:0000189:[693,1205,1424]}</content></qualityParameter> > <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? > UO:0000189 "count" --> > <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Count" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Number of MS2 scans > acquired" value="33495"/> > <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? > UO:0000106 "hertz" --> > <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Freq-Max" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Maximum frequency for MS2 > scan acquisition" value="7.33107"/> > <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Density" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak > counts for MS2 scans"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="3">{'UO:0000189:[27,44,70]}</content></qualityParameter> > <!-- How do we specify that the values of a vector sum to 1? How > about this case, where two vectors together sume to 1?--> > <qualityParameter ID="MS2-PrecZ-Known" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of known > precursor charges for +1, +2, ..., n, more than n"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" > value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0,0.15047,0.0687565,0.00877743,0.000507538,0.000268697]}</content></qualityParameter> > > <!-- For the final metric, I used a reporting type where the number > of elements in vector is fixed: QC:3000007--> > <qualityParameter ID="MS2-PrecZ-Unknown" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" > accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of unknown > precursor charges for +1, more than +1"> > <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000007" > value="2">{'UO:0000191':[0.54235,0.22887]}</content></qualityParameter> > </runQuality> > <cvList> > <cv fullName="The HUPO-PSI QC WG metrics ontology in obo > format" uri="http://www.github.com/HUPO-PSI/.../" ID="PSI-QC-CV"/> > </cvList> > </qcML> > -------------------------------------------------------- > > On 4/5/2018 9:47 AM, David Tabb wrote: >> Hi, all. >> >> In creating my hand-crafted example of qcML from QuaMeter IDFree, I've >> installed Protege, an ontology viewer. It's useful for perusing the >> HUPO-PSI MS ontology (http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ms/4.1.2/ms.owl). >> >> I'm a bit confused, though, in how to review the qcML ontology. At >> present, I can find an OBO to download >> (https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/raw/master/cv/v0_0_10/qc-cv.obo), >> >> >> but I do not see an OWL equivalent. Helpfully, I can simply review the >> OBO in a text editor. >> >> In particular, I am trying to determine which QC accessions each of my >> IDFree metrics will represent. Does each metric generator get a >> particular series of numbers that relate to that software's outputs? >> Can I reuse a metric accession from other software if my tool generates >> the same values (such as the number of MS/MS scans)? >> >> Jinmeng Jia, will you be able to share your paragraph that meets the >> draft MIAPE QC standard with Weimin Zhu for him to present at >> Heidelberg? I was sorry to hear you won't be able to attend yourself. >> >> Thanks, >> Dave >> >> [http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> >> >> >> >> The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these >> terms. 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From: Jinmeng J. <jia...@16...> - 2018-04-06 17:40:36
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Hi, David and all. Sure. I have shared the MIAPE QC paragraph to Weimin and we have arranged a short meeting in Shanghai before he go to Heidelberg to make sure everything is prepared. I am sorry for not being able to attend the spring meeting. Best, Jinmeng At 2018-04-05 15:47:24, "David Tabb" <dt...@su...> wrote: >Hi, all. > >In creating my hand-crafted example of qcML from QuaMeter IDFree, I've >installed Protege, an ontology viewer. It's useful for perusing the >HUPO-PSI MS ontology (http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ms/4.1.2/ms.owl). > >I'm a bit confused, though, in how to review the qcML ontology. At >present, I can find an OBO to download >(https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/raw/master/cv/v0_0_10/qc-cv.obo), >but I do not see an OWL equivalent. Helpfully, I can simply review the >OBO in a text editor. > >In particular, I am trying to determine which QC accessions each of my >IDFree metrics will represent. Does each metric generator get a >particular series of numbers that relate to that software's outputs? >Can I reuse a metric accession from other software if my tool generates >the same values (such as the number of MS/MS scans)? > >Jinmeng Jia, will you be able to share your paragraph that meets the >draft MIAPE QC standard with Weimin Zhu for him to present at >Heidelberg? I was sorry to hear you won't be able to attend yourself. > >Thanks, >Dave > >[http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> > >The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms. Disclaimer<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> >Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. Vrywaringsklousule<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >_______________________________________________ >Psidev-qc-dev mailing list >Psi...@li... >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev -- Jinmeng, Jia Ph.D. candidate,Tieliu Shi's Lab Center for Bioinformatics and Computational Biology Shanghai Key Laboratory of Regulatory Biology Institute of Biomedical Sciences and School of Life Sciences East China Normal University Minhang Campus: 500 Dongchuan RD., Shanghai 200241 |
From: David T. <dt...@su...> - 2018-04-05 09:29:33
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Hi, all. At long last, I have completed my "homework" for Heidelberg! I have created a draft XML to represent the qcML output for computing QuaMeter IDFree metrics for a single input mzML file (see text inline below). I would greatly appreciate answers to the following questions to complete this project: 1) If I am reporting only a single value for a metric (such as "XIC-WideFrac"), how do I report the unit for the metric? 2) Do we have an easy way to validate a draft file like this, at least to determine that I have matching end tags for each one I open? I've been using Emacs, which tries to help, but a dedicated XML editor might be preferable. 3) Who officially designates what each metric will be numbered in the CV? Thanks, Dave -------------------------------------------------------- <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <qcML xmlns="http://www.prime-xs.eu/ms/qcml" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.prime-xs.eu/ms/qcml file:/home/walzer/psi/qcML-development/schema/v0_0_10/qcML_0_0_10.xsd" version="0.0.10"> <runQuality ID="ID001"> <metaDataParameters ID="fileprovenance001" cvRef="?" accession="?" name="?" description="do we need cv for toplevel" value="all cv attributes are optional anyway"> <InputFiles> <RawFile location="C:\Research\20171124-Lizex-Chia\1091_Pool_start.mzML" id="ID001" name="1091_Pool_start.mzML"> <FileFormat> <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000584" name="mzML format"/> </FileFormat> <!-- In the following line, I computed the md5sum for the peak-picked mzML, not the RAW! --> <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000568" name="MD5" value="b583f6d2a91b4749d5a75885330f6e5d" /> <cvParam cvRef="PSI-MS" accession="MS:1000747" name="completion time" value="2017-12-08-T15:38:57Z" /> </RawFile> </InputFiles> </metaDataParameters> <!-- Question to consider: how should I link a metric below to the concept of "liquid chromatography" or "electrospray ionization?" Is this appropriate--> <!-- Units I employ below: --> <!-- UO:0000191 "fraction" --> <!-- UO:0000010 "second" --> <!-- UO:0010006 "ratio" --> <!-- UO:0000189 "count" --> <!-- UO:0000106 "hertz" --> <!-- When a line gives a single metric, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000191 "fraction" --> <qualityParameter ID="XIC-WideFrac" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of precursor ions accounting for the top half of all peak width" value="0.206807"/> <qualityParameter ID="XIC-FWHM" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak widths for the wide XICs"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0000010':[12.5377,14.2244,16.9234]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- UO:0010006 is "ratio" rather than "log ratio"--> <qualityParameter ID="XIC-Height" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak log ratio heights for the wide XICs"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.776393,0.93114,6.6283]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000010 "second" --> <qualityParameter ID="RT-Duration" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Highest scan time observed minus the lowest scan time observed" value="4920.17"/> <qualityParameter ID="RT-TIC" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of TIC accumulation as fraction of RT-Duration"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.301236,0.13286,0.174576,0.391328]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="RT-MS" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of MS1 acquisition as fraction of RT-Duration"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.217794,0.272976,0.275845,0.233385]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="RT-MSMS" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of MS2 acquisition as fraction of RT-Duration"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0.268157,0.233516,0.236373,0.261954]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-TIC-Change" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of log ratios of MS1 scan-to-scan TIC changes"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.870774,0.900585,4.66521]}</content></qualityParameter> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-TIC" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Log ratios of MS1 scan TICs"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0010006':[0.568866,0.815636,1.18124]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000189 "count" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Count" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Number of MS1 scans acquired" value="7832"/> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000106 "hertz" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Freq-Max" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Maximum frequency for MS1 scan acquisition" value="2.41814"/> <qualityParameter ID="MS1-Density" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak counts for MS1 scans"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0000189:[693,1205,1424]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000189 "count" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Count" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Number of MS2 scans acquired" value="33495"/> <!-- In the following, where do I indicate the unit type? UO:0000106 "hertz" --> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Freq-Max" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Maximum frequency for MS2 scan acquisition" value="7.33107"/> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-Density" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Distribution of peak counts for MS2 scans"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="3">{'UO:0000189:[27,44,70]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- How do we specify that the values of a vector sum to 1? How about this case, where two vectors together sume to 1?--> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-PrecZ-Known" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of known precursor charges for +1, +2, ..., n, more than n"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000008" value="4">{'UO:0000191':[0,0.15047,0.0687565,0.00877743,0.000507538,0.000268697]}</content></qualityParameter> <!-- For the final metric, I used a reporting type where the number of elements in vector is fixed: QC:3000007--> <qualityParameter ID="MS2-PrecZ-Unknown" cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:" name="QuaMeter IDFree Metric- Fraction of unknown precursor charges for +1, more than +1"> <content cvRef="PSI-QC-CV" accession="QC:3000007" value="2">{'UO:0000191':[0.54235,0.22887]}</content></qualityParameter> </runQuality> <cvList> <cv fullName="The HUPO-PSI QC WG metrics ontology in obo format" uri="http://www.github.com/HUPO-PSI/.../" ID="PSI-QC-CV"/> </cvList> </qcML> -------------------------------------------------------- On 4/5/2018 9:47 AM, David Tabb wrote: > Hi, all. > > In creating my hand-crafted example of qcML from QuaMeter IDFree, I've > installed Protege, an ontology viewer. It's useful for perusing the > HUPO-PSI MS ontology (http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ms/4.1.2/ms.owl). > > I'm a bit confused, though, in how to review the qcML ontology. At > present, I can find an OBO to download > (https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/raw/master/cv/v0_0_10/qc-cv.obo), > > but I do not see an OWL equivalent. Helpfully, I can simply review the > OBO in a text editor. > > In particular, I am trying to determine which QC accessions each of my > IDFree metrics will represent. Does each metric generator get a > particular series of numbers that relate to that software's outputs? > Can I reuse a metric accession from other software if my tool generates > the same values (such as the number of MS/MS scans)? > > Jinmeng Jia, will you be able to share your paragraph that meets the > draft MIAPE QC standard with Weimin Zhu for him to present at > Heidelberg? I was sorry to hear you won't be able to attend yourself. > > Thanks, > Dave > > [http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> > > > The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these > terms. Disclaimer<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> > Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die > volgende bepalings gereël. > Vrywaringsklousule<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev [http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms. Disclaimer<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. Vrywaringsklousule<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> |
From: David T. <dt...@su...> - 2018-04-05 08:22:10
|
Hi, all. In creating my hand-crafted example of qcML from QuaMeter IDFree, I've installed Protege, an ontology viewer. It's useful for perusing the HUPO-PSI MS ontology (http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ms/4.1.2/ms.owl). I'm a bit confused, though, in how to review the qcML ontology. At present, I can find an OBO to download (https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/raw/master/cv/v0_0_10/qc-cv.obo), but I do not see an OWL equivalent. Helpfully, I can simply review the OBO in a text editor. In particular, I am trying to determine which QC accessions each of my IDFree metrics will represent. Does each metric generator get a particular series of numbers that relate to that software's outputs? Can I reuse a metric accession from other software if my tool generates the same values (such as the number of MS/MS scans)? Jinmeng Jia, will you be able to share your paragraph that meets the draft MIAPE QC standard with Weimin Zhu for him to present at Heidelberg? I was sorry to hear you won't be able to attend yourself. Thanks, Dave [http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms. Disclaimer<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. Vrywaringsklousule<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> |
From: Walzer <wa...@eb...> - 2018-03-15 12:20:21
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Hi all, @dave sure. Do you have specific questions, hard to understand parts, or interests? best, mths On 15/03/18 08:19, Tabb, David, Prof <dt...@su...> wrote: > Hi, all. > > I definitely look forward to our conversation today! > > Mathias, could you present whatever you have for a current mock-up of qcML? I am trying to do my own homework for the Heidelberg meeting (show what a qcML for QuaMeter IDFree might look like), but my familiarity with the schema is pretty limited! > > Jinmeng Jia has let me know that she'll be presenting a paragraph at Heidelberg that might be found in a manuscript to satisfy a MIAPE-QC rule; she and Weimin will both be attending, happily! > > Thanks, > Dave > > On 3/12/2018 6:40 PM, Wout Bittremieux wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, March 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 8h00 Seattle (daylight savings time!), 23h00 Beijing). > > You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 > [https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/product/2x/hangouts_64dp.png]<https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> > > Google Hangouts<https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> > hangouts.google.com > Click to join the conversation. > > > > > I hope to talk to all of you then so we can prepare for the PSI spring meeting in Heidelberg next month. > > Thanks, > Wout > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li...<mailto:Psi...@li...> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev > > > > [http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> > > The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms. Disclaimer<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> > Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. Vrywaringsklousule<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev -- Mathias Walzer European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI) Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, UK Office: +44 (0)1223 494 2610 E-mail: wa...@eb... |
From: Tabb, D. P. <dt...@su...> - 2018-03-15 08:19:18
|
Hi, all. I definitely look forward to our conversation today! Mathias, could you present whatever you have for a current mock-up of qcML? I am trying to do my own homework for the Heidelberg meeting (show what a qcML for QuaMeter IDFree might look like), but my familiarity with the schema is pretty limited! Jinmeng Jia has let me know that she'll be presenting a paragraph at Heidelberg that might be found in a manuscript to satisfy a MIAPE-QC rule; she and Weimin will both be attending, happily! Thanks, Dave On 3/12/2018 6:40 PM, Wout Bittremieux wrote: Dear colleagues, This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, March 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 8h00 Seattle (daylight savings time!), 23h00 Beijing). You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 [https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/product/2x/hangouts_64dp.png]<https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> Google Hangouts<https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> hangouts.google.com Click to join the conversation. I hope to talk to all of you then so we can prepare for the PSI spring meeting in Heidelberg next month. Thanks, Wout ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Psidev-qc-dev mailing list Psi...@li...<mailto:Psi...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev [http://cdn.sun.ac.za/100/ProductionFooter.jpg]<http://www.sun.ac.za/english/Pages/Water-crisis.aspx> The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms. Disclaimer<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. Vrywaringsklousule<http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer> |
From: Wout B. <wo...@uw...> - 2018-03-12 16:42:02
|
Dear colleagues, This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, March 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 8h00 Seattle (daylight savings time!), 23h00 Beijing). You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 I hope to talk to all of you then so we can prepare for the PSI spring meeting in Heidelberg next month. Thanks, Wout |
From: Tenzer, S. <te...@un...> - 2018-02-16 07:30:56
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Hi everyone, my sincerest apologies for not attending yesterday - I had dentists appointment which did not work out as well as planned - I was kind of knocked out afterwards. Hope to talk to you soon! Best wishes, Stefan Am 16.02.2018 um 02:05 schrieb Wout Bittremieux <wo...@uw...>: > Dear colleagues, > > Please find the meeting notes of today's teleconference here: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/meeting_notes/20180215_telco.md > > I want to especially highlight that registrations for this year's PSI spring meeting are now open: http://psidev.info/content/hupo-psi-meeting-2018 > I hope to see all of you there so we can make important progress towards a qcML version 1.0. > > Dave will soon send some more information to the mailing list so we can optimally prepare for the PSI meeting. > > Best, > Wout > >> On 12 Feb 2018, at 19:24, Wout Bittremieux <wo...@uw...> wrote: >> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, February 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). >> >> You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 >> >> As I couldn't attend last month's teleconference I don't know what was discussed then and what should be on the agenda this week. Please reply to this email to let us know if you have something specific to be discussed. >> >> Thanks, >> Wout >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ >> Psidev-qc-dev mailing list >> Psi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev |
From: Wout B. <wo...@uw...> - 2018-02-16 01:08:12
|
Dear colleagues, Please find the meeting notes of today's teleconference here: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/meeting_notes/20180215_telco.md I want to especially highlight that registrations for this year's PSI spring meeting are now open: http://psidev.info/content/hupo-psi-meeting-2018 I hope to see all of you there so we can make important progress towards a qcML version 1.0. Dave will soon send some more information to the mailing list so we can optimally prepare for the PSI meeting. Best, Wout > On 12 Feb 2018, at 19:24, Wout Bittremieux <wo...@uw...> wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > > This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, February 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). > > You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 > > As I couldn't attend last month's teleconference I don't know what was discussed then and what should be on the agenda this week. Please reply to this email to let us know if you have something specific to be discussed. > > Thanks, > Wout > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev |
From: Tabb, D. P. <dt...@su...> - 2018-02-15 23:46:13
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Agenda items for our teleconference today: * Spring Meeting at Heidelberg: who is attending? * Topics listed for discussion at HUPO-PSI: Formalize suggested CV updates, Formulate additions to CV, Develop examples of CV terms, Review updated MIAPE-QC, Special Topic: Implementation in repositories, Special Topic: Current status of implementations Thanks! Dave On 2/13/2018 5:24 AM, Wout Bittremieux wrote: Dear colleagues, This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, February 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 [https://www.gstatic.com/images/icons/material/product/2x/hangouts_64dp.png]<https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> Google Hangouts<https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> hangouts.google.com Click to join the conversation. As I couldn't attend last month's teleconference I don't know what was discussed then and what should be on the agenda this week. Please reply to this email to let us know if you have something specific to be discussed. Thanks, Wout ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Psidev-qc-dev mailing list Psi...@li...<mailto:Psi...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms / Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer |
From: Tabb, D. P. <dt...@su...> - 2018-02-15 23:19:44
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Hi, team! We had a compact call that touched several interesting topics today. I'll let Wout tell the whole story in the minutes, but for now I want to make a couple of requests in connection with the April 18-20 meeting in Heidelberg (draft agenda here: <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14uyeHF9d3_E4K9Fsh5mLHwL5JUS2q49plNspwelGQ4A/view> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14uyeHF9d3_E4K9Fsh5mLHwL5JUS2q49plNspwelGQ4A/view<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14uyeHF9d3_E4K9Fsh5mLHwL5JUS2q49plNspwelGQ4A/view#gid=1021763599> ): * First, if you haven't registered and plan to go, please go ahead to register so we have a good headcount. * Second, during the latter part of Thursday morning (Apr. 19), we will be looking at the CV with an eye to what is missing, using the perspective of the metric generator, the researcher trying to publish, or the database trying to ingest a qcML object. * Third, if you are a quality metric generator, you should be prepared to work up (or just present) some examples of how to express those metrics in XML during the afternoon session on April 19th. * Fourth, Jinmeng, you get your very own session of two hours in the late afternoon of April 19th. I would greatly appreciate it if you could write an example of a (long?) paragraph that we would like to see in a peer-reviewed manuscript that is an example of meeting the draft MIAPE-QC standard. If meeting the MIAPE-QC standard cannot be accomplished in a long paragraph, I suspect we will need to remove some requirements to make it more practical! (I am displaying my biases about MIAPE, and that is not really fair to you.) * Our session on repositories on the morning of April 20 is intended as a brainstorming session. Do we want PRIDE to have a webservice that will automatically generate a qcML document when given an accession? In brief, what does qcML have to do with repositories? Mathias, in connection with this, could you explain why embedding JSON in XML makes more sense than just writing JSON outright? Thank you for your continued interest in our qcML endeavor! Dave The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms / Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer |
From: Tabb, D. P. <dt...@su...> - 2018-02-13 17:55:25
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Hi, folks. The steering committee is looking over the roster of people registered for this year's HUPO-PSI in Heidelberg, and we have a surprising number of people who haven't signed up as attending! http://www.psidev.info/content/hupo-psi-meeting-2018 Please go ahead to register for the meeting; there's no cost, and the web page responds very quickly. Thanks, Dave The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms / Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer |
From: Wout B. <wo...@uw...> - 2018-02-13 03:37:50
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Dear colleagues, This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, February 15th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 As I couldn't attend last month's teleconference I don't know what was discussed then and what should be on the agenda this week. Please reply to this email to let us know if you have something specific to be discussed. Thanks, Wout |
From: Walzer <wa...@eb...> - 2018-02-01 11:21:16
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FYI -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [Psi-announce] PSI 2018 Spring meeting Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2018 16:40:17 +0000 From: Jones, Andy <And...@li...> To: 'psi...@eb...' <psi...@eb...> CC: 'psi...@li...' <psi...@li...>, 'psi...@li...' <psi...@li...> Dear colleagues, We are pleased to announce that the PSI 2018 Spring meeting is now open for registration (http://www.psidev.info/content/hupo-psi-meeting-2018). PSI2018 will take place April 18-20th 2018 at EMBL, Heidelberg in Germany. The meeting is free of charge for participants (including lunches, refreshments and a workshop dinner). The main topics for discussion will working on the new spectral library data format, the Universal spectrum ID, PEFF (extended fasta format) and PROXI (web services API). There will be a track focussing on metabolomics (mzTab format), further work on quality control (qcML) and developments in the molecular interactions group including implementations of MI XML 3.0, CausalTab format, and identification of novel interactions in interactomes. The PSI always welcomes new participants with an interest in getting involved in proteomics data standards. Please feel free to register and come along to see what we are doing, or forward this message on to other colleagues who may be interested. http://www.psidev.info/content/hupo-psi-meeting-2018 Best wishes Andy Jones |
From: David T. <dt...@su...> - 2018-01-23 05:37:28
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Hi, all. During our last call, I committed to testing the QuaMeter IDFree mode on a data set from metabolomics rather than proteomics. Last night I downloaded MTBLS548 from the Metabolights repository (https://www.ebi.ac.uk/metabolights/MTBLS548). It's a UPLC/Waters Xevo G2 QTOF data set, using only MS; it contains zero MS/MS scans. The total archive is around a GB in size. I found that the "whole study" download links at the top of "Study Files" didn't work. I looked at the corresponding FTP server, but I saw no directory for this number. Instead I selected all the files and then used the "Download selected files" button at the bottom. With my new 20 Mbps fibre connection at home, the whole download arrived in minutes! I decided to translate the raw data to mzML format, centroiding peaks with the "CantWaiT" peaklister in Proteowizard: "c:\Program Files\ProteoWizard\ProteoWizard 3.0.11738\msconvert.exe" --filter "peakPicking cwt snr=1.0 peakSpace=0.1" --filter "turbocharger minCharge=1 maxCharge=4" -z *.raw Happily, that process ran rather quickly! >From there, I could run QuaMeter against the mzMLs pretty easily. I used a quameter.cfg that contains these lines: ChromatogramMzLowerOffset = "0.05mz" ChromatogramMzUpperOffset = "0.05mz" Instrument = "orbi" The command line for running QuaMeter itself looked like this: "c:\Program Files\Bumbershoot\bumbershoot-bin-windows-vc120-release-3_0_11738\quameter.exe" -MetricsType idfree --cpus 1 OutputFilepath metrics.tsv *.mzML Happily, the code ran without any apparent errors, even though it was designed to work for files containing both MS and MS/MS scans. I am attaching the output file: metrics.tsv. The following columns were zeros or undefined values: XIC-WideFrac XIC-FWHM-Q1 XIC-FWHM-Q2 XIC-FWHM-Q3 XIC-Height-Q2 XIC-Height-Q3 XIC-Height-Q4 RT-MSMS-Q1 RT-MSMS-Q2 RT-MSMS-Q3 RT-MSMS-Q4 MS2-Count MS2-Freq-Max MS2-Density-Q1 MS2-Density-Q2 MS2-Density-Q3 MS2-PrecZ-1 MS2-PrecZ-2 MS2-PrecZ-3 MS2-PrecZ-4 MS2-PrecZ-5 MS2-PrecZ-more MS2-PrecZ-likely-1 MS2-PrecZ-likely-multi Obviously an MS2 or MSMS metric cannot be computed when none of these scans are collected. Similarly, the precursor charge metrics are undefined when no ions were selected as precursors! The "XIC" metrics concern the peak widths of ions selected as precursors, so we lost those as well. At present, QuaMeter makes no effort to characterize peak width or intensity for peaks that do not serve as precursor ions. So is any of this useful? Yes, I think so. I am attaching a graph out of Excel: RT-TIC.gif. The image composites four metrics: RT-TIC-Q1 through RT-TIC-Q4. We can sum the TIC across all the MS scans to comprise a total TIC. Then we ask what fraction of all RT duration was required to accumulate the first quarter of total TIC, the second quarter, etc. This image shows the variation in TIC accumulation times for each of the 10 experiments. In this image I have sorted by the startTimeStamp in the mzML files. The authors apparently ran a random ordering of their two cohorts (file names starting with "N" rather than "H"). The time stamps tell us that half the data were acquired in the afternoon of May 3rd while the other half were acquired in the early morning hours of May 4th. Do you see a shift in the RT-TIC plot between the fourth and fifth file? Would we see a cohort-associated shift? Reordering the files is just an Excel sort away! Thanks, Dave The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms / Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer |
From: Walzer <wa...@eb...> - 2018-01-18 11:44:25
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Dear all, I'm very sorry but I will be on the train from Manchester at that time. best, mths On 16/01/18 16:25, Wout Bittremieux wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, January 18th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). > > You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 <https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> > > I propose the following agenda items for the teleconference: > > EuBIC developer's meeting update > Mathias did a great job preparing our QC topic for the EuBIC developer's meeting and we managed to make some progress in developing a dashboard in Ghent last week. We can give an overview of what we did and what the current status is. See the slides in the attachment for an initial update. > Thanks again for your efforts Mathias! > > CV status > Martin has let us know that he's too busy to reliably attend our monthly meetings. Instead Julian will take over some of his efforts in updating the CV towards a 1.0 version. It would be useful to get an overview of where we're at right now and gain an insight into the necessary changes. > > Schedule of the annual PSI meeting > Based on Dave's mail from yesterday we can discuss the topics that will be addressed during the annual PSI meeting in Heidelberg in three months. > > Please reply to this email if you want to add additional items to the agenda. > > Thanks, > Wout > > PS: I have another commitment earlier on Thursday afternoon. I will try to attend our teleconference but I am not sure yet whether I will actually be able to do so, so you don't need to wait for me to start. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev -- Mathias Walzer European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI) Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, UK Office: +44 (0)1223 494 2610 E-mail: wa...@eb... |
From: Wout B. <wou...@ua...> - 2018-01-17 08:25:12
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I realized I forgot to attach the slides we used to present the work we did at the EuBIC hackathon last week. Please see the attachment now. I also forgot to mention that the QCloud system from our friends in Barcelona has been published in PLoS ONE recently. Congrats! Check it out here: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0189209 Best, Wout |
From: Wout B. <wou...@ua...> - 2018-01-16 16:35:12
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Dear colleagues, This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, January 18th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 <https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2> I propose the following agenda items for the teleconference: EuBIC developer's meeting update Mathias did a great job preparing our QC topic for the EuBIC developer's meeting and we managed to make some progress in developing a dashboard in Ghent last week. We can give an overview of what we did and what the current status is. See the slides in the attachment for an initial update. Thanks again for your efforts Mathias! CV status Martin has let us know that he's too busy to reliably attend our monthly meetings. Instead Julian will take over some of his efforts in updating the CV towards a 1.0 version. It would be useful to get an overview of where we're at right now and gain an insight into the necessary changes. Schedule of the annual PSI meeting Based on Dave's mail from yesterday we can discuss the topics that will be addressed during the annual PSI meeting in Heidelberg in three months. Please reply to this email if you want to add additional items to the agenda. Thanks, Wout PS: I have another commitment earlier on Thursday afternoon. I will try to attend our teleconference but I am not sure yet whether I will actually be able to do so, so you don't need to wait for me to start. |
From: David T. <dt...@su...> - 2018-01-15 11:35:21
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Hi, all. I wanted to update you that our working group will be meeting for its own track for two of the three days in our meeting at Heidelberg. I hope almost all of us can make it! At the moment, our track's topics include: * qcML / minimal requirements * Metrics integration and CV crafting * Software support * Implementation in repositories * Minimal reporting requirements Would you like to see any of these removed, updated, or replaced? Martin Eisenacher wrote to me last week. His schedule has become sufficiently busy that he can no longer reliably attend our monthly meetings. I believe a member of his group may be able to continue our team's integration of the CV, though! Thanks, Dave The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms / Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer |
From: David T. <dt...@su...> - 2017-12-22 07:06:40
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You are very welcome, Paul! It will be great to work with you again. Happy Holidays, Dave On 12/20/2017 1:26 AM, Paul Rudnick wrote: Hi, I'd be interested in participating in your meetings and working on qcML. Many thanks Paul -- Paul A. Rudnick, Ph.D. President & Co-Founder Spectragen Informatics LLC business: (206) 842-4980 email: pau...@sp...<mailto:pau...@sp...> web: http://www.spectragen-informatics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ Psidev-qc-dev mailing list Psi...@li...<mailto:Psi...@li...> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev The integrity and confidentiality of this email is governed by these terms / Die integriteit en vertroulikheid van hierdie e-pos word deur die volgende bepalings gereël. http://www.sun.ac.za/emaildisclaimer |
From: Wout B. <wo...@uw...> - 2017-12-22 01:09:43
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Hi Paul, Great to hear that, your experience will be very valuable for our efforts! We have a monthly teleconference on the third Thursday of the month at 15:00 GMT. That's a bit early for us on the West Coast, but I hope you'll still be able to participate some time. Our next teleconference will be January 18. A reminder is typically posted to this mailing list in the week leading up to every teleconference. It's also useful to point you to our GitHub repository: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development Our activities are documented there, with an ongoing discussion on the development of the new qcML schema. You can also find meeting notes and other information on there. Finally of course I recommend you to subscribe to this mailing list if that's not the case yet, as this is our main mode of communication for announcements, etc. Best regards, Wout > On 19 Dec 2017, at 15:26, Paul Rudnick <pau...@sp...> wrote: > > Hi, > I'd be interested in participating in your meetings and working on qcML. > Many thanks > Paul > > -- > Paul A. Rudnick, Ph.D. > President & Co-Founder > Spectragen Informatics LLC > business: (206) 842-4980 > email: pau...@sp... > web: http://www.spectragen-informatics.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev |
From: Paul R. <pau...@sp...> - 2017-12-19 23:54:48
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Hi, I'd be interested in participating in your meetings and working on qcML. Many thanks Paul -- Paul A. Rudnick, Ph.D. President & Co-Founder Spectragen Informatics LLC business: (206) 842-4980 email: pau...@sp... web: http://www.spectragen-informatics.com |
From: Wout B. <wou...@ua...> - 2017-12-16 00:43:19
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Dear colleagues, Thank you for participating in our teleconference. It's always nice to see some new people joining the call. Please find the meeting notes of yesterday's teleconference here: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/meeting_notes/20171214_telco.md As Mathias remarked, it would be useful if you could have a look at the recent issues on GitHub. We can continue our discussions there and then summarize everything during next month's call. Best, Wout > On 14 Dec 2017, at 08:24, Walzer <wa...@eb...> wrote: > > Hey everyone, > > good talking to you! One issue we did not touch is issue [#35] . Have a look at that, esp. if you are compiling a list of metrics for addition into the (pre)release of our CV. > The issue is (amongst others) about how cv value representation in the schema/file will reflect upon how we do the definition of the metric cv terms. > When we can decide on a way(s) to do, I will complete and port the cv additions of PR #31 and the old metrics. > > until then, happy holidays > mths > > #35: [https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/issues/35] > > On 12/12/17 00:54, Wout Bittremieux wrote: >> Dear colleagues, >> >> This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, December 14th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). >> >> You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: >> https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 >> >> >> I propose the following agenda items for the teleconference: >> >> - Follow-up on the action points identified during last month's teleconference: >> https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/meeting_notes/20171113_telco.md >> >> >> - Discussion of the QC hackathon session at the upcoming EuBIC developer's meeting. Mathias has already created an excellent schedule which you can find here: >> http://uahost.uantwerpen.be/eubic18/hackathon-dashboard.html >> >> What datasets do we need to prepare in advance, is there further desired functionality not mentioned in the current plan (and that is feasible to implement), etc.? >> >> - CV status in moving towards a 1.0 version. We got a nice update on the status of the XML schema and MIAPE guidelines and the plan in moving forward during last month's teleconference. It would be useful to get a similar overview for the CV as well. >> >> - Although it's still early days we might discuss the working group's presence and visibility at conferences in 2018. The EuPA conference in Spain was mentioned, but similarly we might start making plans to advertise our efforts at ASMS (SIG organization?), HUPO, other big conferences, ... >> >> - Any additional items that need to be discussed... >> >> Thanks, >> Wout >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! >> http://sdm.link/slashdot >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Psidev-qc-dev mailing list >> >> Psi...@li... >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev > > -- > Mathias Walzer > European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI) > Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, UK > Office: +44 (0)1223 494 2610 > E-mail: > wa...@eb... > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot_______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev |
From: Walzer <wa...@eb...> - 2017-12-14 16:24:10
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Hey everyone, good talking to you! One issue we did not touch is issue [#35] . Have a look at that, esp. if you are compiling a list of metrics for addition into the (pre)release of our CV. The issue is (amongst others) about how cv value representation in the schema/file will reflect upon how we do the definition of the metric cv terms. When we can decide on a way(s) to do, I will complete and port the cv additions of PR #31 and the old metrics. until then, happy holidays mths #35: [https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/issues/35] On 12/12/17 00:54, Wout Bittremieux wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > This is a reminder that our next teleconference is scheduled for Thursday, December 14th, at 15h00 GMT (16h00 Western Europe, 17h00 Cape Town, 7h00 Seattle, 23h00 Beijing). > > You can connect to our teleconference on Google Hangouts through the following link: https://hangouts.google.com/group/taNzRy6ELMDK9wbk2 > > I propose the following agenda items for the teleconference: > > - Follow-up on the action points identified during last month's teleconference: https://github.com/HUPO-PSI/qcML-development/blob/master/meeting_notes/20171113_telco.md > > - Discussion of the QC hackathon session at the upcoming EuBIC developer's meeting. Mathias has already created an excellent schedule which you can find here: http://uahost.uantwerpen.be/eubic18/hackathon-dashboard.html > What datasets do we need to prepare in advance, is there further desired functionality not mentioned in the current plan (and that is feasible to implement), etc.? > > - CV status in moving towards a 1.0 version. We got a nice update on the status of the XML schema and MIAPE guidelines and the plan in moving forward during last month's teleconference. It would be useful to get a similar overview for the CV as well. > > - Although it's still early days we might discuss the working group's presence and visibility at conferences in 2018. The EuPA conference in Spain was mentioned, but similarly we might start making plans to advertise our efforts at ASMS (SIG organization?), HUPO, other big conferences, ... > > - Any additional items that need to be discussed... > > Thanks, > Wout > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > Psidev-qc-dev mailing list > Psi...@li... > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/psidev-qc-dev -- Mathias Walzer European Bioinformatics Institute (EMBL-EBI) Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridge, UK Office: +44 (0)1223 494 2610 E-mail: wa...@eb... |