Re: [project-open-localization] Translation Status, Russian

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Hi Dmitry,

> new strings have been added 

That's possible, even though I believe it was only 10-20 strings
in total. But I could be wrong...

> ams module

You can forget about ams. You can also forget about the following
packages:

- acs-*:
  These are only used by Admins and they are only part of OpenACS,
  so they should already be localized.
  The only exception: acs-workflow.

- You can ignore also the following packages
  (not all of these packages may be part of the l10n demo server...):

	ajax-filestorage-ui
	ajaxhelper
	ams
	attachments
	auth-cas
	auth-ldap-adldapsearch
	categories
	chat
	cms
	diagram
	dynamic-types
	ecommerce
	events
	file-storage
	general-comments
	intranet-amberjack
	intranet-asus-server
	intranet-riskmanagement
	intranet-rss-reader
	intranet-tinytm
	lars-blogger
	mail-tracking
	monitoring
	notifications
	oacs-dav
	organizations
	oryx-ts-extensions
	ref-countries
	ref-currency
	ref-itu
	ref-language
	ref-timezones
	ref-us-counties
	ref-us-states
	ref-us-zipcodes
	rss-support
	search
	sms
	survey
	tasks
	telecom-number
	trackback
	tsearch2-driver
	tsoap
	twist
	views
	wiki
	workflow
	xml-rpc
	xotcl-core
	xotcl-request-monitor
	xowiki

> If no, is it possible to recover old Russian transations 

Sorry, that would be quite difficult. Also it would overwrite
your current ones.

> Russian encoding is OK

It should be UTF-8 encoding for Russian, is that right?

> I will rename files to correct locale next time

Don't worry, please get the Russian catalog in the /intranet-filestorage/.

Cheers!
Frank

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Dmitry Ulanov (gmail) [mailto:dim...@gm...] 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 20:30
> An: 'Frank Bergmann'
> Betreff: RE: Translation Status, Russian
> 
> Hi Frank,
> 
> It looks line new strings have been added after you extracted 
> all current
> strings to XMLs for offline translation ;-)
> It is OK, I will deal with them too.
> 
> I've missed big ams module in this list as well as on 
> acs-lang/admin. Is it
> some hidden component or we just did unneeded job translating it?
> 
> I see that interface slightly changed after import of this 
> Batch2. Have you
> "saved" existing translations as I asked and re-applied them 
> after importing
> batch2?
> If no, is it possible to recover old Russian transations and 
> put them over
> what you imported today?
> If impossible, it is not a big problem as I am going to check 
> all interface anyway.
> 
> Russian encoding is OK, and I will try to shorten localized menu tabs.
> I will rename files to correct locale next time, sorry ;-)
> 
> As for publishing my photo and by bio, this is a great 
> opportunity, thank > you ;-) 
>  
> Have a nice evening!
> 
> Best Regards,
> Dmitry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Bergmann [mailto:fra...@pr...] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 4:43 PM
> To: 'Dmitry Ulanov (gmail)'
> Cc: pro...@li...
> Subject: AW: Translation Status, Russian
> 
> Hi Dmitry,
> 
> 
> > About 75% of content have been translated to Russian so far
> 
> Perfect, we've messed it up... I've imported your translations and the
> translation completeness has gone up to about 60% (according to
> http://l10n.project-open.net/acs-lang/admin/,
> but maybe I've missed one of your files?).
> 
> 
> Btw., we've probably messed it up more then once in the past 
> and will mess
> it up again... Please have some patience with us.
> The ]po[ core team consists of just 3 guys, and we have to 
> handle everything
> from coding, bug-fixing and support to sales, demos and 
> marketing. And now
> localization, of course...
> But fortunately Michael is carrying a lot of the work on this part...
> 
> So you can tell us openly (no problem!) if we mess it up, and 
> we'll try to
> fix it.
> 
> 
> > "live" testing
> 
> I've imported the strings into the l10n server and set my user's
> locate to ru_RU for checking if the import had problems with 
> character sets (see below). So the system is there if you want
> to take a quick view. Some of the menu tabs seem quite big, I'm
> not sure if there are ways to shorten them a bit. I remember the
> same issue in German, and it took quite some creativity to find
> suitable but shorter expressions...
> 
> 
> A minor suggestion concerning the format for "offline translations": 
> It would be great if you could change the name of your catalog
> files to include your target language ru_RU (example.
> "intranet-core.ru_RU.utf-8.xml" instead of 
> "intranet-core.en_US.ISO-8859-1.xml"). This way, we could copy
> the files in "batch mode" into their locations. This time I had to 
> rename them each, which slows down the "cycle type" and may cause 
> errors...
> 
> 
> Finally, I'd suggest that you update your entry in 
> http://www.project-open.org/documentation/language_ru to include
> a beautiful link to Janus or a photo and a link to your private 
> LinkedIn profile. Maybe you also want to add a short bio there? 
> We plan to include the profile of the l10n leads and translators 
> as part of the "press kit" for V3.4 (I'll send a separate mail 
> out today). I can also setup a separate "partner_dmitry_ulanov"
> page if you want.
> 
> 
> Thanks for the great work!
> 
> Cheers!
> Frank
>  
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Dmitry Ulanov (gmail) [mailto:dim...@gm...] 
> > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 17. September 2009 06:31
> > An: 'Frank Bergmann'
> > Betreff: RE: [project-open-localization] Translation Status, Russian
> > 
> > Hi Frank,
> > 
> > Welcome back, there was really a silence here during your absence.
> > I see you full of energy to push the project further, that is 
> > great :-)
> > 
> > I just submitted the next batch of Russian strings to file 
> > storage on Monday
> > (please see my last message in your inbox and pay attention to my
> > suggestions regarding import).
> > About 75% of content have been translated to Russian so far.
> > I will definitely finish Russian in September and would like 
> > to perform
> > "live" testing on the l10n server during October. Slipping of 
> > release date
> > is always good for translators ;-)
> > 
> > P.S. As far as I remember, Mykola Pohorilets is working on 
> > Ukrainian, not Bulgarian.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Dmitry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Bergmann [mailto:fra...@pr...] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 2:47 AM
> > To: pro...@li...
> > Subject: [project-open-localization] Translation Status,Delay 
> > of V3.4 until
> > October 2009,Hints for the "Interactive Translation 
> > Mode",First Draft of the
> > Press Kit etc.
> > 
> > Hi!
> > 
> > 
> > I'm back from vacation again (Greenland is beautifuy!) and 
> > just had a first
> > look at the status of L10n server's /acs-lang/admin/ page... 
> > There is quite
> > some advance, and 6 languages seem to be in a status already 
> > suitable for
> > relase (en, de, es, fr, it, nl). 
> > Contratulations!
> > 
> > Klaus told me there were some new languages to add to the Wiki.
> > I've finally added all languages that we might ever support...
> > However, I didn't check the "Languages" checkbox in the Wiki 
> > edit-page of
> > the "incomplete" languages. So these languages don't appear 
> > in the content
> > tree of the Wiki at the moment.
> > 
> > 
> > Language Status
> > 
> > I've just checked the status of the languages at the 
> > localization server.
> > Could you please confirm if I'm right?
> > 
> > 
> > ar_LB  Arabic (LB) 593 Incomplete - 
> > 	 Somebody is working on this one?
> > 
> > bg_BG  Bulgarian (BG) 0 New - 
> > 	 I've enabled the language in the L10n server. 
> > 	 Mykola Pohorilets offered help on this.
> > 
> > ca_ES  Catalan (ES) 597 New - 
> > 	 Michael, you offered to provide this translation, 
> > 	 is that right? Or should we cancel it? 
> > 	 I've created a Wiki page and enabled the language in the 
> > 	 L10n server.
> > 
> > zh_CN  Chinese (CN) 1.049 Incomplete - 
> > 	 This looks like somebody is seriously working on it?
> > 
> > nl_NL  Dutch (NL) 5.004 Supported - 
> > 	 This is one of the most completely translated language, 
> > 	 congrats!
> > 
> > en_US  English (US) 5.037 Supported - 
> > 	 Well, that's ]po[...
> > 
> > fr_FR  French (FR) 4.641 Supported - 
> > 	 Looking very complete!
> > 
> > de_DE  German (DE) 4.389 Supported - 
> > 	 Looking good...
> > 
> > it_IT  Italian (IT) 5.032 Supported - 
> > 	 This _is_ the most complete translation, congrats!
> > 
> > ja_JP  Japanese (JP) 1.147 Incomplete(?) - 
> > 	 We are still looking for a language lead, right?
> > 
> > pt_BR  Portuguese (BR) 1.014 Incomplete(?) - 
> > 	 Is this OpenACS strings or is it real ]po[ translations?
> > 
> > ru_RU  Russian (RU) 784 Incomplete - 
> > 	 Still requires some work, is that right?
> > 
> > es_ES  Spanish (ES) 3.949 Supported - 
> > 	 There are about ~1.000 strings remaining. 
> > 	 Maybe these are not very important?
> > 
> > tr_TR  Turkish (TR) 1.366 Incomplete(?) - 
> > 	 Still requires some work, is that right?
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > Hints for the "Interactive Translation Mode"
> > 
> > 
> > There is one important hint that allows you to greatly 
> > speed up translations in the "interactive translation mode" 
> > (/acs-lang/admin -> Translation Mode = "on"):
> > If you are on a page with multiple untranslated strings, 
> > please do a Ctrl-Click on the red-"@" and the yellow-"*" 
> > links. This way, a number (5-20) of tabs open up in the 
> > browser. Then you can go one-by-one through the tabs, 
> > enter the translation and submit. Then you can press Ctrl-W 
> > (closes the current tabl) directly after pressing 
> > "submit translation". This way, the browser doesn't loose 
> > time loading the page again. The system will still update
> > the string.
> > Working this way, the speed of the server really doesn't 
> > matter anymore. At least this is my experience from 
> > performing the initial translation into German...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Support for "Offline Translation"
> > 
> > Michael and other have asked for support for "offline" 
> > translations.
> > 
> > Today I've exported all translations from the database 
> > into ]po[ "catalog" files. I have moved these collected 
> > strings for all languages in 
> > http://l10n.project-open.net/intranet-filestorage/
> > You can download them from there.
> > 
> > After translating them offline, you can upload your 
> > results into the folder Files_for_reimport_to_PO (I assume 
> > LoCo Michael has created them). Then please notify the 
> > localization-list, so that somebody of us can import them 
> > into the database.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Delay of V3.4 until October 2009
> > 
> > 
> > Did you see that we have delayed the "official" release 
> > of V3.4 until end of October (1 month)? We had to do this 
> > because of delays with the Windows installer and with some 
> > PR material.
> > I hope this will also provide you with some additional 
> > time for L10n.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > First Draft of Press Kit
> > 
> > 
> > I've uploaded the first thee files of the future Press-Kit
> > in http://l10n.project-open.net/intranet-filestorage/ ->
> > Press-Kit.en, just to provide you with a first idea.
> > 
> > At the end of this month the following files will be there:
> > 
> > - V3.4-Company-Fact-Sheet.090909.odt
> >   Some facts about ]po[
> > 
> > - V3.4-Consulting.090916.odt
> >   Processes of ]po[ for Consulting Companies
> > - V3.4-Translation.090916.odt
> >   Processes of ]po[ for Translation Companies
> > - V3.4-ITSM.090916.odt
> >   Processes of ]po[ for IT Services Organizations
> > 
> > - V3.4-ERP-vs-PSA.090724.odt
> >   A background article explaining the differences
> >   and similarities between an ERP system and a PSA.
> > 
> > - V3.4-Press-Release.Open-Source.odt
> >   Press release suitable for open-source managzines
> > - V3.4-Press-Release.Consulting.odt
> >   Press release for Consulting Sector
> > - V3.4-Press-Release.Translation.odt
> >   Press release for Translation Sector
> > - V3.4-Press-Release.ITSM.odt
> >   Press release for IT Services Management Sector
> > - V3.4-Press-Release.Generic.odt
> >   Press release (generic, without a specific sector)
> > 
> > 
> > Any feedback is highly welcome.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers!
> > Frank
> > 
> > ---
> > Frank Bergmann
> > Dipl.-Ing., MBA
> > Managing Director ]project-open[
> > Tel: +34 933 250 914
> > Cell: +34 609 953 751
> > Fax: +34 932 890 729
> >  
> > 
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